Brady sucks now

[bucky]

It's clear you have no idea what the hell is going on.

I know whats going on.

QB gets too much credit and too much blame. It's all media generated and the lambs follow the media. The team wins and loses. The QB needs to be judged by performance and not wins/losses. Stop listening to the talking head clueless media ESPN types.

I got news. Shag and I aren't listening to the talking head media. We make our own evaluations. And guess what, a 4th QTR int, while only scoring 17 points in a big game like the SB does affect a QB's legacy. No-matter how many points the other team DOESN'T score or that your D gave up the game winning points. Really, that's my one and only point. You disagreeing? You seem to be. You seem to continually try and correct me on this.

 

[jms493]

love it.....i can remember like it was yesterday when Eli cant make it into VSN top 10 QB lists.......now what. \

BTW where do you guys get the energy/time to argue over this bullshit....

 

[bucky]

When I say the best I'm referring to "most clutch," "big game winner," etc the typical cliches that people like to use or have been using in threads I've seen.

BTW, I'm not sure if you're aware, but you left Brady out of who you'd take over Eli right now.

Didn't mean to. I left Peyton out only because of the injury. Don't know how we will be coming back from that. But you have to give Eli props for those SB winning drives.

 

[FirstTimer]

I know whats going on.

You clearly don't.

 

[jms493]

He's almost there...

he is trying to squeeze out cutler and newton!

 

[Bear Pand]

Pand, I get that you're upset that Peyton is labeled a choker and Tom was glorified for never choking at the time, but what's your point?

Anyone with a brain knows Peyton and Tom are top 5 all-time, so I'm not sure why you are catering to the espn first take crowd by making an awful pot.kettle.black thread. People in nature are retarded, so don't listen to them.

Threads not really about Manning. I will say this though, let Manning throw a safety in the endzone during a SB. Or pull some of the other stuff Brady has. Reaction would've been way different.

 

[FirstTimer]

he is trying to squeeze out tebow cutler and newton!

Fixed.

 

[bucky]

Yeah, Eli came up so "big" in these big game he was trailing Tom Brady who was playing by most idiots accounts here pretty marginally.

So Eli came up "big" by outplaying a QB who wasn't playing well and needed last dtch drives to do so.
And he's being elevated for that?

LOL. He HAD TO MAKE THOSE big time drives or his team loses. That's just the opposite of what Favre did since those two SB games in 97-98. The point is, he made those drives happen. He came up big in the 4th at the end of the game. He should be elevated for that.

You can't sit here and downplay what Brady did and point out how disappointingly he played then elevate Eli at the same time for beating him.

Makes no sense.

Nobody was talking about Eli as a potential GOAT. It's like you want to compare T.J Yates and Drew Brees w/o the context of where they came from.

Drew Bress throws a 4th QTR int during a SB against Houston and lose, Yates gets elevated, and Brees takes a legacy hit. That doesn't mean Yates is greater than Brees.

Brady is thought of as a possible GOAT candidate. Eli is not. One guy's legacy takes hit, the other gets his elevated.

It makes absolute sense.

 

[FirstTimer]

LOL. He HAD TO MAKE THOSE big time drives or his team loses.

Congrats on missing the point.

Again.

That's just the opposite of what Favre did since those two SB games in 97-98. The point is, he made those drives happen. He came up big in the 4th at the end of the game. He should be elevated for that.

No one gives a flying fuck about that pill popping redneck.

He holds no relevance in this discussion.

Nobody was talking about Eli as a potential GOAT. It's like you want to compare T.J Yates and Drew Brees w/o the context of where they came from.

Missing the point still.

Drew Bress throws a 4th QTR int during a SB against Houston and lose, Yates gets elevated, and Brees takes a legacy hit. That doesn't mean Yates is greater than Brees.

If Yates is elevated because of Brees doing something stupid then people are morons.

 

[Liquidrob]

Aliens invade, we need our top 'big game' QB to save mankind, who do you pick?

1. Tebow aka THE LEADER OF MEN
2. Money Manning
3. Brady and his guaranteed 14 to 17 points
4. Vick (He can literally throw while running, that might come in handy)
5. Kyle Boller playing from 1 knee

Choose wisely

 

[bucky]

He's almost there...

He has to go in a top ten list now. Right behind TEBOW and Mother Fing Flynn.

 

[FirstTimer]

Aliens invade, we need our top 'big game' QB to save mankind, who do you choose?

1. Tebow aka THE LEADER OF MEN
2. Money Manning
3. Brady and his guaranteed 14 to 17 points
4. Vick (He can literally throw while running, that might come in handy)
5. Kyle Boller playing from 1 knee

Choose wisely

Peyton Manning.

 

[bucky]

Aliens invade, we need our top 'big game' QB to save mankind, who do you pick?

1. Tebow aka THE LEADER OF MEN
2. Money Manning
3. Brady and his guaranteed 14 to 17 points
4. Vick (He can literally throw while running, that might come in handy)
5. Kyle Boller playing from 1 knee

Choose wisely

You beat me to it.

 

[bucky]

If Yates is elevated because of Brees doing something stupid then people are morons.

No, Yates would get elevated for NOT making the 4th QTR int, his offense scoring more than 14 points, and winning the SB. That would be pretty darn good for a QB nobody expected anything from. Wouldn't that be the reason he gets elevated? Wouldn't the 4th QTR int and only scoring 14 ish points be the reason Bress would take the hit?

 

[ralaw]

Peyton Manning, because he can "cut that meat".

Fixed

 

[FirstTimer]

No, Yates would get elevated for NOT making the 4th QTR int, his offense scoring more than 14 points, and winning the SB.

Again.

Dumb.

TJ Yates being elevated because Brees throws a pick is stupid.

 

[Liquidrob]

good thread Pand

 

[bucky]

Again.

Dumb.

TJ Yates being elevated because Brees throws a pick is stupid.

Talking about missing the point. Yates would not be elevated because Brees threw a stupid pick. He would be elevated for NOT throwing a stupid pick. This isn't difficult to understand.

 

[killgod]

Talking about missing the point. Yates would not be elevated because Brees threw a stupid pick. He would be elevated for NOT throwing a stupid pick. This isn't difficult to understand.

I didn't know throwing up a ball to your all pro TE vs a LB, who was wide the fuck open, was a "stupid" decision.

It was a bad throw because it was underthrown, but a stupid decision? I'd throw at that matchup 10 out of 10 times and you'd be lying if you'd do otherwise.

Bad throw, not stupid.

Not difficult to understand, but I'll go ahead and assume you won't be able to wrap your head around it.

 

[FirstTimer]

Talking about missing the point. Yates would not be elevated because Brees threw a stupid pick. He would be elevated for NOT throwing a stupid pick. This isn't difficult to understand.

bama:

If Yates is elevated for riding a defense and running game to a Super Bowl while Brees legacy takes a hit for throwing the ball around the yard and throwing a pick as a result.

Yes that's stupid to elevate Yates for basically being Trent Dilfer while Brees legacy takes a hit for the team actually leaning on him.

If Yates did nothing to stand out and Brees played well but threw a pick to seal the game I don't think less of Brees and think any more of Yates.

Excuse me for not being simple minded.