BROCK vs OVEREEM IS ON!!!

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Overeem responds to Warner and KOF

I’m now the most tested fighter in the sport. I will be tested four times in three weeks, and then at least twice more in the next six months in addition to any testing for my next fight.

I have had people – I will politely call them ‘haters’ – accuse me of taking steroids since I was a 185-lb. kickboxer at the age of 17. When I was 20, I’ve fought at a weight of 222 lbs. I am now aged 31, and weigh 35 lbs. more. I don’t think 35 lbs is too much to grow in 11 years from a 20-year-old to 31-year-old.

Facts are, I have been tested with the commission numerous times before when I fought in the U.S. and got tested in Japan. I always passed any testing, so hopefully now with these next tests coming and the fact of me being the most tested fighter in the sport, the critics may be satisfied. And if not, well, that’s not my problem, that is their problem.

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Someone in an interview this week asked me if Brock is stronger than me. Maybe he is, but that’s not important. We are not having a weightlifting competition or a wrestling match, we are in the Octagon fighting MMA where there are more factors in play then just who is stronger and wrestling.

The more I think it will end in the first round. We both like to finish fights quickly so people don’t blink because it might be over in seconds.

Brock Lesnar is one of the best wrestlers out there, but he has a weakness which I can capitalize on. His biggest weakness is my biggest strength – I’m the better striker, that’s for sure.

I am fully prepared. Brock is a very straightforward fighter. Look at his fights, you know right away what he is about: takedowns and ground and pound. There’s nothing unique or tricky about his style. It just so happens he is very good at that thing he does.

I don’t think that is good enough to beat me. I respect him, but I don’t think he faced a fighter of my caliber as a mixed martial artist.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

If you read carefully what i've been bitching about, you will see that I don't even care if he's doing any PED's.

I'm more concerned with the fact that, intentional or not (and I lean towards intentional), he dodged a urine screening for almost 30 days, and the NSAC let him get away with that.

Since 30 days is more than enough time to produce a clean sample (assuming he shit himself, stopped whatever he was doing, and stalled the test), there is no integrity here on either side, and it's pretty surprising to me that somebody like rob isnt taking the NSAC to task for bowing down to Zuffa.

And rob, I don't care what you say, if this was Lesnar in the same boat, you'd be all over this for the sham that it is.

 

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[KINGOFOOTBALL]

It's rare in fighting because it is a weight class sport, there are many K-1 guys that have put on similar amounts of 'muscle'

go look at the NFL, you can see similar gains all the time

if MMA was still back in the old days with no weight classes you would see this more

K1 are professional fighters.




A player in the NFL putting on 30-50lbs (depending how you want to look at it) is usually a position change.The biggest changes are from college to pro where some guys drop or put on weight for a different but linear position(olb-de). Im not really conjuring up guys who suddenly put on 35 lbs of muscle mid career.

Im failing to see how something that is so common is so difficult to come up with people who do it. If you said guys drop from body shots all the time and I said really ? I dont think so but show me some...why would your response be anything but clips of guys getting dropped by body shots ?
Why make an issue out of nothing.

Uh.. I adressed already idiot. So did rob. What you're saying is that anybody that has put on muscle since the late 60's should be suspected of steroid use. You're fucking dumb. It is not out of the ordinary for somebody to start lifting weights and put on 35lbs in two years. There are literally thousands of examples of people doing this without steroids. But u want examples from a group of people that don't want to bulk, as a comparison to somebody does. Jesus you're stupid, and everytime you argue with me more and more people see it.


Do you think its out of the ordinary for a person to start bulking, and training properly to gain 35lbs in two years? Let's start there.

No im saying this INDIVIDUAL who put on that weight , was in an organization full of steroid users , and just dodged a test has likely taken steroids at some point.

Anything else is you backtracking and desperately trying to conjure up an argument so you can HerpDerp and BRB like a clown. You said yourself 90+ % of athletes use PED did you not ?
So yeah strictly by your standards youre telling me theres a 90% chance Im right. I like those odds. Ill stick by my guess that he used.

Who cares if an average joe can or cant ? apples and oranges...
I SPECIFICALLY said a professional athlete (Overeem),who was already nearly a decade into his pro career of physical training suddenly changing his body is not ordinary. The chances of him using steroids at a time in his career where there was no testing makes it a likelyhood in my eyes.

The fact he just dodged a test makes him EXTREMELY shady. For all I know it could be pot but anyone not thinking Overeem is shady at this point is bat shit crazy.

 

[RosettaStoned]

ITT: KOF moves the goal post numerous time, takes statements out of context, plugs his ears to the obvious, and makes retarded points. Pretty typical KOF postings.

As I have said numerous times now. His weight gain is not out of the ordinary. People start training and eating right and put on 35lbs in 2 years or less all the time. He may have used, none of us know, but I'm not sold on it.

Illiterate KOF takes that to imply I'm saying its ordinary for professional fighters to do this, when I've said no such thing. I've said nothing close to that at all. He is now arguing from the stand point that both rob and myself have in anyway implied this, when we have actually both said the exact opposite.

And this is why so many who used to hold KOF in high regard (including myself) now think he's a retard. This is now the third time he's done this exact same thing.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

ITT: KOF moves the goal post numerous time, takes statements out of context, plugs his ears to the obvious, and makes retarded points. Pretty typical KOF postings.

As I have said numerous times now. His weight gain is not out of the ordinary. People start training and eating right and put on 35lbs in 2 years or less all the time. He may have used, none of us know, but I'm not sold on it.

Illiterate KOF takes that to imply I'm saying its ordinary for professional fighters to do this, when I've said no such thing. I've said nothing close to that at all. He is now arguing from the stand point that both rob and myself have in anyway implied this, when we have actually both said the exact opposite.

And this is why so many who used to hold KOF in high regard (including myself) now think he's a retard. This is now the third time he's done this exact same thing.

Yes I assert something using various reasons you select one you dont like when you get called on it you back off and beat off on a point and then whine people are moving goal posts when you were too stupid to read what was said in the first place. Maybe if you stopped moving backwards and dancing around questions you'd realize its you and not the goal posts that have moved.

How many times you've been called out for mindless arguing, fishing for arguments, and backpedaling in those same threads by others ?
Selective reading as usual. Keep patting yourself on the back.

It takes a special kind of retard to say 90+% of athletes are using then call someone a retard for asserting a guy with huge weight gain and suspicious testing activity is likely using.

Make up your mind.

 

[RosettaStoned]

It takes a special kind of retard to say 90+% of athletes are using then call someone a retard for asserting a guy with huge weight gain and suspicious testing activity is likely using.

Make up your mind.

That's actually not what I called you a retard for. Way to further prove that you are in fact a retard.

BTW to answer your other question, besides you (you're clearly retarded though) the answer is once by drama queen Heels. Good company there bud.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

That's actually not what I called you a retard for. Way to further prove that you are in fact a retard.

BTW to answer your other question, besides you (you're clearly retarded though) the answer is once by drama queen Heels. Good company there bud.

Yeah the usual I'm not arguing your conclusions validity just the way you came to it routine. That way I never have to pick a side but can argue every point and never need to answer anything routine.

At some point you should realize the napoleon complex , angry poster , FAG ! RETARD ! routine is a little past your age and wreaks of insecurity. Your nowhere near funny , witty , or smart enough to pull off the Senser/Nuke troll derail so quit trying.

 

[EmpireWF]

quit your bitchin' both of ya

Let's talk SATOSHI ISHII!!!!!!!

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

quit your bitchin' both of ya

Let's talk SATOSHI ISHII!!!!!!!

Sambo vs Judo for all the marbles !

I wonder how many of these Febum needs to get back on track..or if his legit elite days are officially over.

 

[EmpireWF]

Sambo vs Judo for all the marbles !

I wonder how many of these Febum needs to get back on track..or if his legit elite days are officially over.

I thought the 3 consecutive losses proved that already.

At this point, it's like seeing Terry Funk in late 90s ECW and beyond....you know he's one of the best of all-time and you're just happy to see him live.

 

[Liquidrob]

As hard as I have been on Febum lately, IF and thats a big if he gets serious about training, losses the gut and puts the work in he still has the ability to beat elite guys

His striking is still fast, he has pop, etc...but like a said for a while now, he doesnt train like he used to and it has showed, would love for Febum to make another run which is very possible, it's just up to him and how hard he wants to work, he isnt even old

 

[RosettaStoned]

Yeah the usual I'm not arguing your conclusions validity just the way you came to it routine. That way I never have to pick a side but can argue every point and never need to answer anything routine.

At some point you should realize the napoleon complex , angry poster , FAG ! RETARD ! routine is a little past your age and wreaks of insecurity. Your nowhere near funny , witty , or smart enough to pull off the Senser/Nuke troll derail so quit trying.

Your problem is you attribute arguments to me in your own head, and argue against them while everybody else wonders what the fuck your talking about.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

As hard as I have been on Febum lately, IF and thats a big if he gets serious about training, losses the gut and puts the work in he still has the ability to beat elite guys

His striking is still fast, he has pop, etc...but like a said for a while now, he doesnt train like he used to and it has showed, would love for Febum to make another run which is very possible, it's just up to him and how hard he wants to work, he isnt even old

I still dont know how much of it is hard headedness...or just fear of the mob monster.
Like you said physically I dont see him as a has been. His training and desire arent there. Hes always struck me as a guy who has someone watching over his shoulder hes worried about. Could just be humble Russian demeanor though.

 

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THE REEM has been DEEMED clean

 

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THE REEM is the only MMA fighter to now pass a blood test and urine test

 

[clovett]

THE REEM pisses excellence, as well as clean urine. But let's get back on topic and continue our discussion of the dismantling of Brock next weekend by the hands and knees of THE REEM.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

THE REEM has been DEEMED clean

THE REEM is the only MMA fighter to now pass a blood test and urine test

Well i'll be darned, he passed a random urine test taken 27 days after being asked to take it. Let's close the door on this one.

I'm convinced!

 

[Cornelius]

And this is why so many who used to hold KOF in high regard (including myself) now think he's a retard. This is now the third time he's done this exact same thing.

Who are the "so many" and why would you have?

 

[RosettaStoned]

Who are the "so many" and why would you have?

Fair point.