[DIVISIONAL]: New York Giants @ Green Bay Packers

[bucky]

No, the Packers lost the game when they blew 4th and 26 and let the Eagles send the game into OT. Otherwise, the Packers won the game in regulation. That's why it is known as 4th and 26.

No, the 4th and 26 doesn't make the OT int go away. It still happened. The int ended any chance they had of winning that playoff game. The TEAM loses, and the 4th and 26 was a major part of it, but so was the OT int. And the OT int was SQUARELY ON FAVRE. Stop making excuses.

 

[MrBill]

BTW, the biggest choke job in Packers history was in '03 when they lost at home to Atlanta. 7 points in that game? Against a dome team in January at night in 16 degree temp? The Giants D was way better than the Falcons of '02.

I must have missed the part where the Packers were the #1 seed and set a team record for wins and offensive production before getting beaten by the Falcons in the opening round :shifty:

No, the 4th and 26 doesn't make the OT int go away. It still happened. The int ended any chance they had of winning that playoff game. The TEAM loses, and the 4th and 26 was a major part of it, but so was the OT int. And the OT int was SQUARELY ON FAVRE. Stop making excuses.

So in the bizarro world in which you judge Favre, the game would have gone to OT even if the Packers defense had not allowed the Eagles to convert 4th and 26 with under a minute to go? You really go out of your way to blame Favre for everything.

Rodgers had one good run in last years playoffs and the other two years have been one and done. Ironically in both of the one and done games, the Packers last possession ended with a Rodgers turnover...one of which was returned for the game winning points against the Cardinals. You can make excuses all you want but that is still true :yep:

 

[Senser81]

So in the bizarro world in which you judge Favre, the game would have gone to OT even if the Packers defense had not allowed the Eagles to convert 4th and 26 with under a minute to go? You really go out of your way to blame Favre for everything.

Rodgers had one good run in last years playoffs and the other two years have been one and done. Ironically in both of the one and done games, the Packers last possession ended with a Rodgers turnover...one of which was returned for the game winning points against the Cardinals. You can make excuses all you want but that is still true :yep:

Not going to get into this with you (again), but to blame Rodgers for the Cardinals loss is somewhat "nebulous".

Rodgers: 28-43, 423 yards, 5 TDs, 1 INT.

 

[bucky]

So in the bizarro world in which you judge Favre, the game would have gone to OT even if the Packers defense had not allowed the Eagles to convert 4th and 26 with under a minute to go? You really go out of your way to blame Favre for everything.

No. I'm sayi8ng that the defense giving up 4th and 26 DOES NOT EXCUSE Favre from making the horrible OT decision that ended up an INT.

So in your BIZARRO world world in which you judge Favre, if only the Kick/Punt Returner would have run each return back for a TD, Favre would have never thrown those ints? You really go out of your way to excuse Brett's major mistakes. So every mistake that Favre made can be blamed on the punt/kick returner? You starting to get it now?

Rodgers had one good run in last years playoffs and the other two years have been one and done. Ironically in both of the one and done games, the Packers last possession ended with a Rodgers turnover...one of which was returned for the game winning points against the Cardinals. You can make excuses all you want but that is still true :yep:

Rodgers put up 40+ points in the Arizona one and done. The loss was not because of Rodgers or the offense. Rodgers has had two good playoffs and one average one so far. The team has had one great playoff run one average one and one bad one (In my Bizarro world OF REALITY).

EDIT: And the game winning points in that Arizona game wasn't from a bad decision by the QB, it was an O-lineman Fng up in pass protection and the D-line knocking the ball away from him. That turnover was on the O-Lineman not on the QB :yep:

 

[RosettaStoned]

I havent trolled one damn bit. I just dont waste time looking up every single bit of football trivia to appease a wannabe football in-crowd LOL.

Why,are you afraid of someone taking your troll crown?
Dont worry, it wont be me.

No, saying a bunch of stupid shit.. then getting called on it and saying you were just kidding while continuing to argue and tell people not to insult you...

That's trolling son. Knock it off, and check your pm's.

 

[MrBill]

Not going to get into this with you (again), but to blame Rodgers for the Cardinals loss is somewhat "nebulous".

Rodgers: 28-43, 423 yards, 5 TDs, 1 INT.

1 INT on the Packers first possession of the game and then his "Kick 6" fumble in OT which directly resulted to the winning points of the Cardinals. Most of the discussion surrounding Favre over the years on this forum has been nebulous at best (or more venomous actually) so turnabout should be fair play.

No. I'm sayi8ng that the defense giving up 4th and 26 DOES NOT EXCUSE Favre from making the horrible OT decision that ended up an INT.

So OT would have still happened had the defense not given up 4th and 26?

Rodgers put up 40+ points in the Arizona one and done. The loss was not because of Rodgers or the offense. Rodgers has had two good playoffs and one average one so far. The team has had one great playoff run one average one and one bad one (In my Bizarro world OF REALITY).

EDIT: And the game winning points in that Arizona game wasn't from a bad decision by the QB, it was an O-lineman Fng up in pass protection and the D-line knocking the ball away from him. That turnover was on the O-Lineman not on the QB :yep:

Excuses, excuses. He's had one good playoff run and 2 "one and done" appearances. He could have held onto the ball when he got hit by the Cardinals defender, he didn't have to fumble directly into their hands for the TD return :yep:

 

[bucky]

So OT would have still happened had the defense not given up 4th and 26?

That doesn't change the fact that Brett made a horrible decision and threw the OT int.

Excuses, excuses. He's had one good playoff run and 2 "one and done" appearances. He could have held onto the ball when he got hit by the Cardinals defender, he didn't have to fumble directly into their hands for the TD return :yep:

No excuses. When evaluating the QB, I actually evaluate the QB. When evaluating the team, I evaluate the team :yep:

The fumble at the end of the Arizona game was a mistake by the LG, not the QB. Rodgers had a very good game against Arizona.

 

[Senser81]

1 INT on the Packers first possession of the game and then his "Kick 6" fumble in OT which directly resulted to the winning points of the Cardinals. Most of the discussion surrounding Favre over the years on this forum has been nebulous at best (or more venomous actually) so turnabout should be fair play.

Oh, I see. Since the INT was on the first possession of the game, that somehow negates the 5 TDs and 423 passing yards. Because, as we all know, if an INT is thrown on the first possession of the game, that is the equivalent to giving up 5 TDs immediately.

 

[bucky]

Oh, I see. Since the INT was on the first possession of the game, that somehow negates the 5 TDs and 423 passing yards. Because, as we all know, if an INT is thrown on the first possession of the game, that is the equivalent to giving up 5 TDs immediately.

Or equivalent to throwing an int in OT.

 

[MrBill]

Oh, I see. Since the INT was on the first possession of the game, that somehow negates the 5 TDs and 423 passing yards. Because, as we all know, if an INT is thrown on the first possession of the game, that is the equivalent to giving up 5 TDs immediately.

No, your stat line left off the fumble that was returned by the Cardinals for the winning points in OT. I merely clarified that for you.

Don't make me go all FT on you and send to to the showers for a few days :troll:

Or equivalent to throwing an int in OT.

Because OT allows follows running out the clock when your opponent failed to convert on 4th and 26 and you have a 3 point lead.

I really don't see a difference in a fumble or INT that leads to a loss in OT. Both could have been prevented by better QB play.

 

[Tailback U]

Has anyone ever seen MrBill and Brett Favre in the same room at the same time?

:seeyou:

 

[bucky]

I really don't see a difference in a fumble or INT that leads to a loss in OT. Both could have been prevented by better QB play.

The difference is, the int was caused by a poor decision by the QB, the fumble was caused by the poor play of the LG, not the QB.

If a lineman blew a block and Brett's arm was hit when he throws an int, I blame the O-Lineman, not Brett. But Brett was the one that made those poor decisions in OT and during other playoff games that resulted in the ints. Those were purely on him.

Again, when evaluating a QB, I actually evaluate the QB. When evaluating the team, I evaluate the team. The Arizona fumble was not on the QB. It was on the LG. That was one of the reasons GB didn't resign him.

 

[Primetime]

:smug:

 

[Cornelius]

:smug:

Pay back is a bitch, bitch.

 

[Primetime]

 

[Colonel Angus]

What is going on in this thread?????

 

[Cornelius]

He's pretty good with McCarthy coaching him. Soon to be irrelevant though.

 

[Primetime]

 

[Cornelius]

Wow, he even does Rodgers td dance! How original! He'll have fun doing that on the couch this weekend.

 

[Primetime]

Matt Flynn has more Superbowl rings than the entire Lions franchise