Not sure if you saw the Giants final drive or not, you might have been crunching numbers with fellow quasi-stat fruit pop FedEx to discuss greatness at the kids table, but over here at the grown folks table, greatness is determined by achieving great things and doing great things...winning and losing the Super Bowl is the difference between achieving and not achieving great things, throwing that pass to Mario Manningham in this game, in his first Super Bowl, the pass to Tyree...great things...the end result matters, regardless of how its determined and undermining it by who has the ball last, is silly and it couples in with this new found internet idea to try to outsmart yourself in discussing greatness that's ruining baseball discussions involving similar matters. You're taking your 5m morning commute by hovercraft.