Enough is enough. Peyton Manning is the greatest QB of all time.

[ThomasTomasz]

nobody is talking down about mannings greatness. he is a top 5 all time QB so its not about calling him Jeff Komlo.

its about how some people think he is the GOAT and completely disregard his failures in the big games. the biggest measure of a players greatness is how he performs in the big games. Manning does not play well in those games which is why he isnt the greatest of all time.

He's gone to three Super Bowls. If you tell me none of those games leading up to the Super Bowls aren't "big" and can back them up, then I'll probably change my viewpoint, but I bet you can't.

 

[Hasselbeck]

Peyton Manning in his prime wasn't beating Seattle last night.

This legacy talk is so stupid. The man is a Top 3 QB of all-time.. win or loss last night that wasn't changing.

 

[bucky]

Manning performed quite well in the game actually, its the rest of the team that didn't.

Really? 100 yds and 2 ints in the first half? With a 40ish QB rating for the entire game? Only 8 points on offense? Sorry, I disagree with "quite well"?

 

[bucky]

Peyton Manning in his prime wasn't beating Seattle last night.

This legacy talk is so stupid. The man is a Top 3 QB of all-time.. win or loss last night that wasn't changing.

Top 3 I would say so. I just don't believe he's GOAT. I wouldn't call someone crazy if they believed it. I just wouldn't have him as number 1 all time.

And congrats on the Seattle SB win Hass. This was one SB I didn't mind who won. Wanted Manning to get his second, but Seattle has two pretty good ties to Wisco with Wilson and your GM.

 

[spursup]

Really? 100 yds and 2 ints in the first half? With a 40ish QB rating for the entire game? Only 8 points on offense? Sorry, I disagree with "quite well"?

Really? The Thomas fumble was Manning's fault? The terrible O-line was his fault? Manning played well, his team played like shit and made it look like Manning played like shit when he really didn't.

 

[Aso]

Really? The Thomas fumble was Manning's fault? The terrible O-line was his fault? Manning played well, his team played like shit and made it look like Manning played like shit when he really didn't.

He played terribly. The majority of his completions were under 10 yards and A LOT under 5 yards.

 

[ram29jackson]

He played terribly. The majority of his completions were under 10 yards and A LOT under 5 yards.

so its his fault his primaries never got open ?

 

[Youk]

so its his fault his primaries never got open ?

Yes. Damn Peyton for throwing to his only options.

 

[ram29jackson]

He played terribly. The majority of his completions were under 10 yards and A LOT under 5 yards.

and considering how and what he did and got 280 yards for it..thats not a negative..thats someone doing the absolute most that he can in a bad situation..something only greats can do.

 

[Aso]

Yes. Damn Peyton for throwing to his only options.

Thats really really weak. It's like when people said Kevin Kolb played well in place of Vick in 2010 and lost 17-12 to Washington. I know the Seahawks defense is good but I think he may have thrown maybe 5 passes deeper than 10 yards. It was pathetic - from start to finish. If you don't take any shots at all then you've already given up.

 

[Houston]

The receivers weren't open deep, why would you expect him to go there often?

 

[Aso]

Take a shot towards Demaryius deep. Decker was covered by Sherman for most of the game so Demaryius was lined up against Byron Maxwell. Run more deep routes instead of 5 yard drags all game. Thats not gonna beat Seattle. They could have tried a number of things but they didn't, I'll rewatch the game but I'd have to say maybe 75% of his passes had to be 5 yards and shorter downfield. Your excuse is cliche and just that, an excuse. when they tried to throw it deeper Demaryius actually made a catch (where he fumbled). But that was one of the only times they actually tried to push the ball downfield and what do you know it worked. Rest of the game was loaded with underneath routes and screens all game long.

 

[Youk]

Thats really really weak. It's like when people said Kevin Kolb played well in place of Vick in 2010 and lost 17-12 to Washington. I know the Seahawks defense is good but I think he may have thrown maybe 5 passes deeper than 10 yards. It was pathetic - from start to finish. If you don't take any shots at all then you've already given up.

Oh ok. I'm sorry, you're right, Manning should have passed to those covered receivers, right? 5 interceptions doesn't matter if he's at least making the attempts!

 

[Aso]

Oh ok. I'm sorry, you're right, Manning should have passed to those covered receivers, right? 5 interceptions doesn't matter if he's at least making the attempts!

Thats totally what I said. I'm saying the playcall was incredibly shitty and they never tried anything deeper than 5 yards downfield and when they did it wasn't intercepted they actually got yards before Demaryius fumbled. Peyton clearly has input on the playcall too. If Peyton doesn't want to run drags and screens all game then he doesn't...

 

[Youk]

Thats totally what I said. I'm saying the playcall was incredibly shitty and they never tried anything deeper than 5 yards downfield and when they did it wasn't intercepted they actually got yards before Demaryius fumbled.

No, you're saying Manning should have passed to those covered receivers and "taken a chance" at throwing a pick. "He played terribly. The majority of his completions were under 10 yards and A LOT under 5 yards." - Sounds like your blaming his choice to throw short.

 

[Aso]

No, you're saying Manning should have passed to those covered receivers and "taken a chance" at throwing a pick. "He played terribly. The majority of his completions were under 10 yards and A LOT under 5 yards." - Sounds like your blaming his choice to throw short.

I'll concede. Offensively Peyton Manning played a very good game and executed the drag route/screen game very well. It was the other 10 guys fault they got crushed in the Superbowl and not Mannings in the least bit.

You're a dumbass and sounding like BroncoBlue.

 

[Youk]

I'll concede. Offensively Peyton Manning played a very good game and executed the drag route/screen game very well. It was the other 10 guys fault they got crushed in the Superbowl and not Mannings in the least bit.

You're starting to get it a bit more. Your post sounds a little bit better than before when you said "He played terribly. The majority of his completions were under 10 yards and A LOT under 5 yards." At least now you are starting to understand that his offensive line was getting blown up and his receivers were being covered deep.

We are almost done with turning you into an intelligible human being!

 

[ram29jackson]

LOL what ever...

he has done things 99.9% of players will never do.

his career has brought changes to how the position is played..he has been to 22+? playoff games.

he has been to a super bowl with 2 separate teams and broken records at the age of 36/37.

he has come back from a career ending injury before even doing those things when he couldn't even throw in the front yard to his dad.....he has 5 freaking MVPs....who does THAT ?

his dad played many years of pro ball...his brother won 2 Super Bowls too..he is greatness, he's related to greatness, he oozes greatness from his pores .

his dad was friends with the back up QB who drove Archie's sons around and then had his own son named Andrew Luck !

Archie mannings sperm has been in 5 super bowls !

 

[Aso]

You're starting to get it a bit more. Your post sounds a little bit better than before when you said "He played terribly. The majority of his completions were under 10 yards and A LOT under 5 yards." At least now you are starting to understand that his offensive line was getting blown up and his receivers were being covered deep.

We are almost done with turning you into an intelligible human being!

So fucking dumb. My posts go right over your head.

 

[Maynard]

He's gone to three Super Bowls. If you tell me none of those games leading up to the Super Bowls aren't "big" and can back them up, then I'll probably change my viewpoint, but I bet you can't.

of course he won some big games. i didnt say he never won a big game...duh...but the fact is that he is 11-12 in the post season. he is 1-2 in SB...he has 8, 0-1 playoff seasons which include 99 when they were 13-3, 05 when they were 14-2, 07 when they were 13-3, 08 when they were 12-4 and 12 when they were 13-3....the other 3 seasons they were 10-6.....thats alot of one and dones for a guy playing on the best teams during the regular season those years.