Fedor, UFC finalizing deal

[Liquidrob]

I think Dana cant get it thru his bald head that Fedor can not be bought

 

[Tailback U]

is that jean claude van damm in the back or just a bizarro version?

 

[Liquidrob]

is that jean claude van damm in the back or just a bizarro version?

its JCVD, he is in love with Fedor

 

[Tailback U]

its JCVD, he is in love with Fedor

Who isn't?

Can you explain to me why the UFC couldn't just sign Fedor to a 1 fight contract Vs. Brock with a rematch clause in it (or something like that)?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Who isn't?

Can you explain to me why the UFC couldn't just sign Fedor to a 1 fight contract Vs. Brock with a rematch clause in it (or something like that)?

Because Fedor won't agree to any deal that isnt co promoted by M-1, and Dana won't co promote anything with anyone.

When the well runs dry for Fedor with everyone else, he'll go to UFC. If Dana's business tumbles and the "boom" cools off, he'll sign Fedor.

I don't see either happening anytime soon.

 

[Tailback U]

Figured as much. Forgive my lack of knowledge, so Fedor is already under contract with M-1? And what exactly is M-1? A promotion agency?

The day the well runs dry for Fedor will probably be the day it's time for him to retire.

 

[JeremyHight]

M-1 is a promotion. They usually do team based MMA leagues, but also signed Fedor to a 2 year deal back in 2007. A lot of his fights have been co-promotions with M-1, but people don't really notice that much.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

Figured as much. Forgive my lack of knowledge, so Fedor is already under contract with M-1? And what exactly is M-1? A promotion agency?

The day the well runs dry for Fedor will probably be the day it's time for him to retire.

Essentially they are a promotion agency, they promote a lot of MMA events. they also have their own M-1 Global Challenge which is basically a global tourney with teams representing different countries fighting. Fedor is under contract with M-1 and that's why they want the UFC to co-promote

 

[Liquidrob]

Fedor taking over the real world and virtual world of MMA, Fedor and Randy on the cover baby

M-1 Global confirmed Wednesday that Fedor Emelianenko will be a part of EA Sports’ upcoming MMA video game.

“I hope that it will be a great game and (be) very popular and will develop the popularity of MMA overall,” Emelianenko said.

Emelianenko and Randy Couture will be featured in the first edition due out next year. Both fighters agreed to deals with EA Sports months ago.

Recently, however, UFC President Dana White said that any fighter who signs with EA would not be welcome in the UFC. The UFC has its own video game, “UFC Undisputed,” which was developed with THQ.

White has said that Couture, who signed with EA while he was battling the UFC over contract issues, is an exception. It is uncertain if Emelianenko could be an exception as well, though M-1 Global chief Vadim Finkelstein said Fedor’s agreement with EA “did not affect our negotiations with the UFC at all” and that M-1 Global is planning its own game.

The participation of Gegard Mousasi and Renato Sobral in the EA Sports game was also announced Wednesday. They will join Frank Shamrock, Tim Sylvia and others.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

apparently what the UFC has offered to Fedor ...

- The UFC offered Fedor a 6 fight, 30 million dollar contract. That's 5 mil a fight

- The UFC offered Fedor an immediate title shot

- Lesnar/Fedor would be the biggest PPV in MMA history (we assume), and the UFC offered M-1 Global a cut of the PPV on top of Fedor's purse.

- Fedor was free to wear as many M-1 logoed items as he wished.

- The UFC also relented on allowing Fedor to compete in combat sambo.

source

cant believe the cross-promotion bullshit is holding it up. M-1 is a joke

 

[dave]

Fedor would be insane to reject that deal ... and UFC would be insane to put him in a match vs. Lesnar in match one.

Put Fedor in some tuneup matches, then put him in the cage vs. Lesnar in fight three or four of Fedor's deal.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

Fedor would be insane to reject that deal ... and UFC would be insane to put him in a match vs. Lesnar in match one.

Put Fedor in some tuneup matches, then put him in the cage vs. Lesnar in fight three or four of Fedor's deal.

fedor is the best fighter on the planet. no need for "tune up fights" hes getting a title shot day one.

 

[dave]

fedor is the best fighter on the planet. no need for "tune up fights" hes getting a title shot day one.

I'm not questioning that.

I am questioning the decision to put him in a title fight on day one.

IMO, it devalues fights two through five.

Why not let MMA fans salivate for a year and two or three fights?

If Fedor loses to Lesnar, the value of his 2-5 fights drops like an anvil.

If he wins, the value of his 2-5 fights still drop ... and so do Lesnar's.

IMO

 

[JeremyHight]

UFC doesn't want another Cro-Cop. Give him a title shot ASAP when he is big and don't give him a chance to get KO'd on a lucky headkick by Gabriel fucking Gonzaga.

 

[Hogle]

I'm not questioning that.

I am questioning the decision to put him in a title fight on day one.

IMO, it devalues fights two through five.

Why not let MMA fans salivate for a year and two or three fights?

If Fedor loses to Lesnar, the value of his 2-5 fights drops like an anvil.

If he wins, the value of his 2-5 fights still drop ... and so do Lesnar's.

IMO

Even if he did lose, I'm sure fights 2-5 would be sick because fedor's an exciting, amazing fighter

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I'm not questioning that.

I am questioning the decision to put him in a title fight on day one.

IMO, it devalues fights two through five.

Why not let MMA fans salivate for a year and two or three fights?

If Fedor loses to Lesnar, the value of his 2-5 fights drops like an anvil.

If he wins, the value of his 2-5 fights still drop ... and so do Lesnar's.

IMO

When you can make the biggest fight on the planet, you make it. You cant risk Fedor getting dropped on a fluke punch in a sport where all it takes is one clean shot. You make the fight and cash in IMMEDIATELY.

There is nothing to gain by waiting. Only bad things can happen...one of them loses, one of them gets hurt, etc.

You make the fight right now, while both have the aura of invincablility.

 

[dave]

When you can make the biggest fight on the planet, you make it. You cant risk Fedor getting dropped on a fluke punch in a sport where all it takes is one clean shot. You make the fight and cash in IMMEDIATELY.

There is nothing to gain by waiting. Only bad things can happen...one of them loses, one of them gets hurt, etc.

You make the fight right now, while both have the aura of invincablility.

You know me, W2BTD. It must be the pro wrestling fan in me.

I forget that actual losses could happen.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

You know me, W2BTD. It must be the pro wrestling fan in me.

I forget that actual losses could happen.

I was gonna say you had a pro wrestling mentality about it.

Sometimes they do the longer build in MMA, but it can backfire. When Rashad Evans KO'd Chuck, UFC lost millions on the potential Chuck/Rampage rematch (well, actually III, but Dana like to pretend the PRIDE fight didnt happen).

 

[Bigpapa42]

Yeah, its just not worth the risk when you are paying a fighter a huge amount per fight. Crocop showed the risk. If you throw Fedor in a tune-up fight and he takes a freak loss, it makes it less likely the investment ever pays off. They throw him in a title fight right away, hype the living shit out of it, and make sure that win or lose, that single fight makes the investment pay off. After that, it matters much less what happens through the remainder of the contract.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

apparently what the UFC has offered to Fedor ...



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cant believe the cross-promotion bullshit is holding it up. M-1 is a joke

I don't buy this offer is real.

The article is deceptive, because they throw in "Dave Meltzer Update" to give it credibility, when the only thing from Meltzer in the entire article in the blurb at the end about the deal "falling through" (Meltzer had that in his daily website update today on his pay site).

I can't see Dana offering Fedor anything close to those terms. It would blow his pay structure to bits, and it would be almost impossible to cover that $5M, even for the Lesnar fight, especially if he's also getting a cut of the PPV money (which UFC main eventers make most of their money on).

Not to mention splitting profits with M-1 for the Lesnar fight.

UFC would probably lose money in that deal.