FISHER ON HIS WAY OUT OF TENN

[Herm]

If he can make a better hot dog than the negros currently there, then maybe I will sway back.

Hey those hotdogs on the 100s level are 10x better than the garbage they put out at halftime in the pressbox.

 

[Irish]

Yousound pretty weak if you're gonna drop your favourite team because they get rid of a coach that you like.

From an outsiders perspective, obviously not knowing as much as most Titan fans, Fisher is past it and Young will have a fairly successful career in the NFL. I'd get rid of Fisher before Young any day of the week.

Obviously I was joking as I have been on 12 years of supporting this team.

I think the people that really think Fisher should leave and VY to stay are the outsiders. People don't understand how this franchise works, they can't spend huge money on players, they develop through the draft. And Fisher is great at taking young unproven players and winning with them.

You never hear about the Titans in free agency for about a decade now. They don't pay for talent. Always have, always will. And thats not Fisher's decision.

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Now I'm gonna leave everyone with the idea on how I think things will pan out if Fisher leaves. It will probably be a long post. Where I come at you with no sources, just my fandom of 12 years.

Fisher is released, Vince stays. They hire some unproven coordinator or a sub par veteran coach. The team has talent, its young but its not quite there. With how often coaches bust after 3-4 years I doubt that talent does anything. They again to refuse to sign big name free agents, and some of that young talent developed under Fisher either signs elsewhere or dies down.

At this point the strongest fan base of the Titans, which was built from the beginning in 98 on the faces of McNair, George, and Fisher, lose connection to a losing team. Believe it or not middle Tennessee is a majority of Colts fans because of Peyton Manning at UT. Nobody really gives a fuck about the Titans outside of the Nashville area. So it loses its strongest fan base and in a town not really known as a media market for sports, a losing team won't thrive. The Preds have come close to leaving a couple times in recent years alone.

The team continues to do poor trying to find the perfect coach in about 5 years after the first coach couldn't get it down, ala situations like Buffalo and KC, Bud Adams dies, a new owner comes in and possibly moves the team. The lack of fan base, the lack of revenue the team generates in an era where NFL is starting to become a big spending game, very easily the franchise won't be on steadiest grounds.

I have no idea on any financial numbers, or how well the NFL is doing in 10 years, but if everything stays remotely the same, and this franchise doesn't do well in the W-L columns, I very easily could see this franchise moving. I don't think they have a substantial ground to handle any longevity of losing teams because unlike KC and Buffalo, the history doesnt run deep with the Titans, its mostly Vols.

But maybe I'm wrong and they hit a jackpot hire like a Mike Tomlin or Bill Belicheck. Chances are slim. I'd rather stay with a Silver caliber coach and hope sometimes the ball falls our way and we get Gold.

 

[BrntO4Life]

You do realize the Titans spend the equivalent of the Grizzlies or Clippers in free agency right? Fisher has made chicken salad out of chicken shit for years.

Well, then I guess they shouldn't have any complaints. You get what you pay for.

 

[Herm]

Well, then I guess they shouldn't have any complaints. You get what you pay for.

Thats what im saying this team never brings in big money free agents, they do it the "right" way and build through the draft but many times draft project players. Sometimes those guys really work out like Cortland Finnegan a 7th rounder and Mike Roos a 2nd rounder who have both been to pro bowls, but ive saw far too many guys like Chris Henry who 2nd rounders were wasted on only to be cut two years later.


Its a pretty sad state of affairs when the biggest caliber free agents have been a past his prime Mawae, mediocre Nate Washington, and a solid pickup in Jake Scott. In the 12 or whatever years theyve been here those are the best 3 free agent pickups i can remember. Those are about the 3 biggest names and most successful they have brought on. Randy Moss with 2% left in the tank doesnt register to me, if they wouldve went after him when Minny traded him to Oakland i wouldve been happy.






I was talking to some reporters at the last home game and asked exactly what the reason was for picking up two special teams Linebackers and cutting LeGarrette Blount and i was told.... The titans put in a claim for both Linebackers hoping they would get one, they were shocked when they were awarded both guys. if you claim a guy on waivers and win you can not rescind that claim. They had one spot open because of injury and Blount was the 53rd man on the roster so he was the first to go. I dont know who to blame that on Fisher or Reinfeldt but thats a collossal mistake and/or terrible luck.

 

[GoChargers]

Obviously I was joking as I have been on 12 years of supporting this team.

I think the people that really think Fisher should leave and VY to stay are the outsiders. People don't understand how this franchise works, they can't spend huge money on players, they develop through the draft. And Fisher is great at taking young unproven players and winning with them.

You never hear about the Titans in free agency for about a decade now. They don't pay for talent. Always have, always will. And thats not Fisher's decision.

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Now I'm gonna leave everyone with the idea on how I think things will pan out if Fisher leaves. It will probably be a long post. Where I come at you with no sources, just my fandom of 12 years.

Fisher is released, Vince stays. They hire some unproven coordinator or a sub par veteran coach. The team has talent, its young but its not quite there. With how often coaches bust after 3-4 years I doubt that talent does anything. They again to refuse to sign big name free agents, and some of that young talent developed under Fisher either signs elsewhere or dies down.

At this point the strongest fan base of the Titans, which was built from the beginning in 98 on the faces of McNair, George, and Fisher, lose connection to a losing team. Believe it or not middle Tennessee is a majority of Colts fans because of Peyton Manning at UT. Nobody really gives a fuck about the Titans outside of the Nashville area. So it loses its strongest fan base and in a town not really known as a media market for sports, a losing team won't thrive. The Preds have come close to leaving a couple times in recent years alone.

The team continues to do poor trying to find the perfect coach in about 5 years after the first coach couldn't get it down, ala situations like Buffalo and KC, Bud Adams dies, a new owner comes in and possibly moves the team. The lack of fan base, the lack of revenue the team generates in an era where NFL is starting to become a big spending game, very easily the franchise won't be on steadiest grounds.

I have no idea on any financial numbers, or how well the NFL is doing in 10 years, but if everything stays remotely the same, and this franchise doesn't do well in the W-L columns, I very easily could see this franchise moving. I don't think they have a substantial ground to handle any longevity of losing teams because unlike KC and Buffalo, the history doesnt run deep with the Titans, its mostly Vols.

But maybe I'm wrong and they hit a jackpot hire like a Mike Tomlin or Bill Belicheck. Chances are slim. I'd rather stay with a Silver caliber coach and hope sometimes the ball falls our way and we get Gold.

Fisher hasn't won a playoff game since 2003.. I don't know how many chances you have to give a guy but 7 seasons without a playoff win is pretty poor. He's obviously not a bad coach (above .500 winning percentage), but I definitely wouldn't put any money on him winning a championship any time soon.. I'll bet Young gets a ring before Fisher (obviously he would need a solid supporting cast which he more or less has at the moment). That's my take on it anyway - I think Young is a fairly solid starting QB and has what it takes to win, going by the last 7 yrs it doesn't look like Fisher does.

 

[Goober]

Bud Adams said young won't be on the team next year. Good for the Titans, that suicidal retard will never be worth a damn in the NFL.

 

[Bear Pand]

Not gonna groan you because I see what you are trying to get at but you cannot look at his 142-120 record and assume he's been a good coach. You need to actually break down his body of work that gave him that 142-120 record.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/FishJe0.htm#coaching_results::none

1999: 13-3
2000: 13-3
2008: 13-3
2003: 12-4
2002: 11-5
2007: 10-6
1996: 8-8
1997: 8-8
1998: 8-8
2006: 8-8
2009: 8-8
1995: 7-9
2001: 7-9
2010: 6-10
2004: 5-11
2005: 4-12

Winning Record Seasons: 6 seasons, 72-24 (.750)

Losing Record Seasons: 5 seasons, 29-51 (.363)

5 average seasons

Overall, I'd say his winning record seasons paint a pretty picture for Fisher. Still a good coach, imo, compared to the negative picture others are trying to paint. I'd have to take a look at other coaches to have examples to compare Fisher to but current he looks like one heck of a coach.

I chose not to include the 1994 seasons since he only went 1-5 (I suppose that means he took over as HC for the Oilers with 6 games remaining?).

I don't think there's a huge difference between 8-8 and 7-9.
So I'd say 6 good seasons, 7 seasons here he hovered around .500, and 3 bad seasons.
Titans 8th best record since 2000.

 

[killgod]

breaking news: Jason La Canfora just makes shit up.

 

[Helicopter]

breaking news: Jason La Canfora just makes shit up.

I can't pay attention to anything he says anyway. That "wonky" eye of his is where all my attention ends up going.