Ian come to VSN, you're welcome here lol

[FedEx227]

It's likely, but interaction is the key.

 

[Len B]

RAC is the chatbox occasionally, and does post here time to time.

 

[Wildcard]

All I know is SCEA's guys have no problems interacting on forums. They don't have to worry about criticism because believe it or not they're aren't many things you can say to them.

Madden is headed in the right direction and I'd personally like to thank Ian. Unfortunately I'm done wandering over to that shit hole OS.

I can say a whole bunch of shit I don't like about The Show. However, it's still damn near perfect, and it's the best Sports Game to date.

 

[Rayman]

Which means what? Everyone can nitpick and find tiny shit. Your last sentence pretty much sums up 99% of what people think after playing the show. Thus, giving SCEA not a damn thing to fret about.

They still ask for input and how they can make the game better.

And one of their huge points of emphasis is getting uniforms and player gear as accurate as they can. I've never seen that attitude from EA, and recently the uniforms and gear have been worse than ever.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Honestly, who cares? Let OS have the developers there. Once the info comes out it comes over here anyway.

Meh to interaction, its pointless really. Show me something or go home. Football gaming should not be this bad at this stage of the game.

Every sports franchise should have an MLB: The Show, failure to do so is just that...a failure.

 

[steeljake]

you know you would think if the EA guys were so tired of hearing about how they suck and badass 2k5 was why dont they just make a game that doesnt suck and quit trying to hide the features each year? The botto0m line for EA is not to make a great game, but instead to make a good game that will get you to buy the next game cuz it will be better. there goal (i am not saying ian and the dev's we see) is too make money, and guess what? their practically printing the stuff so why would they change now. i bet the thing adem was talking about is that online chises will be a pay option, like league daddy.

 

[adembroski]

The stuff they do with nba live and the nhl series makes me even more pissed at EA about madden. EA is supposed to be the be all end all of sports games, yet the the live and 2k series constantly beat their ass, this is why i always yell about the BS that is the exclusive liscesne. If i was 2k or live i would be making a football game secretly and just lying in wait for teh liscense to be open to others again. there is no way the NFL will allow EA to continue being exclusive if they just keep fucking things up.

And the problem in this thinking is the idea that the NFL wants a realistic product.

What the NFL wants is a product that reflects the NFL they wish existed, in which nobody celebrates, nobody talks trash, nobody is an individual, everyone has their socks at the right length, and every team scores 50 points a game.

 

[RosettaStoned]

Ian will probably want to put out a good game before coming here. Too many of my kind around these parts to post after putting out a half assed game.

 

[Herm]

He takes criticism just fine, but there are limits to what anybody can deal with. He's owned up to Madden's past, even though he's fought against it's craptasticness for years.

There's a line between being critical and being an asshole. "You're lazy" and "You don't care" is not criticism. It's that kind of shit that made Ian leave MM... and I don't blame him.

He'll sit there 30 pages of, "The tackles aren't getting back far enough, the DEs aren't coming off fast enough, the pocket is too wide, the corners are turning too quickly"

It's "WTF, THIS IS BULLSHIT, EA SUCKS,THEY DON'T CARE, GIVE UP THE LICENSE, 2K52K52K52K52K52K52K5 GO HOME AND DIE" that gets old real quick.

There are two schools of thought on the 5th floor of Tiburon and there's definitely a sect that believes talking to us is a waste ot time because we're gonna hate no matter what they do. Those people are laughing their asses off at Ian at this moment.

And no, Ian wouldn't be welcome here... not by a lot of the people in the locker room who'd come wandering over to the Madden forum if he showed up just to see if they could get a rise out of him. This community is not the right one to interact with the devs... there are plenty of people on OS representing our views, and there are people here that would do far more damage than good.

I see posts like this all the time at OS yet all the community here seems to think OS is EA fanboys, i really dont get it. They are biggest pro 2k forum on the net.

 

[RosettaStoned]

I see posts like this all the time at OS yet all the community here seems to think OS is EA fanboys, i really dont get it. They are biggest pro 2k forum on the net.

We don't think they're fanboys, we think their forum is boring.

 

[adembroski]

Adem said it the best but I think it's best he stays where he is even though it would be cool to see him post here once in a while. Plus if he did make the switch and start posting all the main blog's and coming here to take suggestions/feedback that would drag the OS crowd over here also, which wouldn't be a bad thing for the sites traffic but I don't know if all those idiots would fit in well with the main core of guys we have now.

I agree. Our idiots are better than theirs.

 

[adembroski]

I see posts like this all the time at OS yet all the community here seems to think OS is EA fanboys, i really dont get it. They are biggest pro 2k forum on the net.

What frustrates me about OS is the moderation. It took me 15 minutes yesterday to find a thread I could post in. They say the amount of traffic they get forces them to close repeat threads and stuff like that so the top of the forum doesn't get cluttered, but closed threats are clutter too, and they're more annoying.

If they'd A.) Allow people to take conversations where they will go so long as they stayed on topic for the forum and B.) Stop closing every 3rd thread arbitrarily, it wouldn't be so bad.

 

[T.Dot]

rofl and guess whose here

 

[Fox1994]

^Ya. I think y'all are being a tad bit critical on OS. They have a few good threads. Sometimes it's boring and sometimes it's not, frankly. I split time here and there and I've got to say it's much more peaceful here, but we also get no dev interaction...

On the other hand, Dev's hardly come to the threads when people ask about the game and it's gotten to the point where you can't make any "Hey, Ian..." or such threads over there.

I like our mods and such here, more, though. And you can cuss and what not. I got an infraction over there for typing "f***" not fuck, but f***.

Ya, VSN's better than OS. This is an alright thread, though: http://www.operationsports.com/forums/ncaa-football/326883-i-feel-like-i-lied.html

 

[JMeist]

so the funny thing about this thread. is that Ian_cummings_EA is registered here. a day ago or so...

Probably some 12 year old kid who has no life.

 

[Krebs]

actually it is ian

ian's twitter: http://twitter.com/ian_cummings

@Rush23 Just joined up. Looking forward to some new scenery. 9:31 PM Jun 24th from web in reply to Rush23

 

[Esjay]

Yeah, I'm here.

Just lurking for now. Seems like you guys have a good thing going here and I don't want to run any risk of the mods tightening up on you guys since I am here. Just reading the first few pages here I can tell there's some uh, "passionate" fans here and I don't see much reason in having to go to battle with anyone over the previous games - if you hate 'em, so be it...that sucks but hopefully we're turning things around and our team will prove to you that we're moving in the right direction.

I think it's better that I stay out of the way until you guys get your hands on Madden 10 and we can start fresh from there.

PS glenwillett why did you say I can't take any forms of criticism?

You probably read what I was saying in the trash talking thread. For the record I have been a huge Madden critic for a long time, but I do like where you're taking things this year. You seem to at least care enough to listen to what we have to say and do your best to implement it.

You won't see me acting that way towards you, don't worry. That kind of behavior is reserved for some of the morons around here.

 

[Champ]

I believe the strafe button should be left in. Had a lot of fun with it.

 

[adembroski]

Just lurking for now. Seems like you guys have a good thing going here and I don't want to run any risk of the mods tightening up on you guys since I am here.

Unless Rush is desperate for members, I really can't see that happening. Quality over quantity, and if you check out the locker room, you can see we've got plenty of morons already.

BTW, You're on my clock now, wtf are you doing up so late?

 

[Helicopter]

Its good to see you post here, Ian. Especially considering you are a still a Vols fan and all. I appreciate the Titans/Ravens vid you posted a few weeks back and really like what you and your team have been doing with this year's game. I feel that its definitely headed in the right direction and think we will all be in for a pleasant surprise come the middle of August.

I'm sure you may recognize some of the usernames at VSN since a lot of us migrated over from the now defunct MaddenMania. I know you posted there a few times last year before Madden 09 came out and many of us could see that your team was trying to make strides then. It seems you were put off by some of the posters there last year and just stopped posting. Those same posters just followed you to OS...surprise. The ones of us who actually wanted to provide decent criticism without all the insults, just stayed where we were at. We've been pretty content to talk about the game amongst ourselves without all the 2K honks and other disrespectful members.

Feel free to post as much as you like and ask any input you want to receive. The majority of the members here are a bit older and could provide some decent feedback in a civilized manner. I just hope the OSers stay where they are. Like someone already said, "quality over quantity".

Anyway...welcome and enjoy your stay.