Manny test positive, suspended 50 games

[Senser81]

see....I'm not one to behead a player for using steroids....and I dont buy this whole bullshit about how they aren't good and take steroids and then are great, I wonder if everybody forgets the pitchers were on steroids too, the hitters are just easier to blame their success on because they hit the ball....but its hard to hit somebody throwing on steroids too....kinda works for both sides here

I'm not disagreeing that both hitters and pitchers have benefited from steroids, but pitching stats have basically gotten worse while batting stats have gone through the roof. I think thats why there is more focus on the hitters who use steroids.

 

[Twigg4075]

If it's steroids baseball has gone to hell. I just want to know exactly what he tested positive for.

Baseball went to shit YEARS ago.

And is this just Manny being Manny, or has the tide shifted to Steroids being Manny?

 

[DDRGuido]

Will be interesting to see what he tested positive for.

pot

 

[Blade]

Sounds like he tested positive recently, not years a go. Seems like another JC Romero situation, where he took the doctor's/company's word for it instead of checkin with the Union or the League.

 

[DJ Fog]

He also went homerless in his first 69 AB's last year and had a down season all along whether or not Manny was around. Plus this season and late last year he was coming back from a wrist injury. His wrist is still an issue.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/gamelog?playerId=3748&year=2008

First 15 AB's?

April 2nd - 2 for 4 , 1 HR .

where do you get 69 ABs from?

 

[FirstTimer]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/gamelog?playerId=3748&year=2008

First 15 AB's?

April 2nd - 2 for 4 , 1 HR .

where do you get 69 ABs from?

Thought it was 2008.

I know ESPN was running stats on it a while back on Sunday Night Baseball. Maybe it was just a 69 AB homerless streak in general he had last year early on. Because I know his old homerless streak for AB's was 69 until he broke it this season.

 

[RainboUnicorn]

Womens fertility drug. hahahahah

 

[PP]

idk how people can say omg manny juicing means ortiz was hence why he isnt hitting.

ortiz had an injured wrist. just look at the way he was swinging earlier in the season. He wasnt getting his wrists in front of him to get the ball. hes been improving slowly and been getting some decent hits. once his form comes back around he will start to hit hrs again. Nobody is hitting any bombs when you aren't even able to get your hands around in front in time. but no.. that has nothing to do with it.. its all bc ortiz aint roiding anymore lol. maddog ur a fn clown.

 

[The Messenger]

I don't buy that it was steroids. It will be interesting if they come out and say what he tested positive for.

He tested positive for Performance Enhancing Drugs. Of course his agent is going to try and weasel his client out of the situation and bad spotlight.

I hope all Red Sox fans aren't going to act like this.

 

[PP]

I dont care really what happens to Manny because 1) he isnt part of the sox anymore 2) the way he weazeled his way out of boston.

I will be interested to see exactly what he tested positive for. If this is a JC romero type situation or something more.

 

[PP]

First offense, we don't know how to handle situations like this, we're not seasoned vets like Yank fans

We? manny isnt even on the sox. who gives a fuck.

 

[The Messenger]

First offense, we don't know how to handle situations like this, we're not seasoned vets like Yank fans

No, you actually handled it well and gave a response any unbiased fan should give at this point. There are very few innocent players during the steroid era, I hate when people think their whole team was clean.

And didn't Paxton Crawford admit steroid use? I'm pretty sure Trot Nixon and Carl Everett were juicing as well.

Either way, like you said everyone (not everyone but damn near everyone) was doing it during the steroids era.

Imo, this is bad for all of baseball and people shouldn't be laughing at this. Manny has been one of the best, if not the best, hitter in baseball for the last decade and his name is now tarnished along with Alex Rodriguez (top 10 hitter for the last decade), Barry Bonds, etc. The sport is hurt as a whole, not just Manny Ramirez or the Boston Red Sox name.

 

[EmpireWF]

One source says the substance he took was for sex-drive enhancement.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_y...s-ramirezsuspension050709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

 

[The Messenger]

We? manny isnt even on the sox. who gives a fuck.

Yeah, because Manny wasn't a big part of those 2004 and 2007 championship teams. Your first reaction was to shoot down the whole steroids thing. I'm pretty sure you give a fuck.

 

[The Messenger]

One source says the substance he took was for sex-drive enhancement.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_y...s-ramirezsuspension050709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Hopefully that is true, but there's maybe .000001% of me that believes that could be the case.

Like I said though, hopefully it's something like that. Even as a Yankees fan, I wouldn't want to see Manny's legacy end up like this. He's been a big part of the game for so long.

 

[ralaw]

Sounds like he tested positive recently, not years a go. Seems like another JC Romero situation, where he took the doctor's/company's word for it instead of checkin with the Union or the League.

That's something that I just don't get. These athletes basically have handlers who they could easily just send off to get the proper information. Why wouldn't he have the doctor or his agent talk to MLB directly and ask if the drug or something in it is on the banned list? I'm sure MLB would happily do it to avoid one of their marquee players being suspended. I just don't understand why they just take something because the doctor told them, especially in the current climate of MLB where a bad test can be so detrimental.

All of that of course is assuming the "doctor gave it to me" excuse is true.

 

[The Messenger]

It was a womans fertility drug that gets your body back to producing the natural amount of testosterone, which leads one to believe that he was on steroids or some type of performance enhancer and recently got off it which would drop his testosterone level because his body adapted to the testosterone he was putting into himself

Sounds about right... Unfortunately.

 

[The Messenger]

That's something that I just don't get. These athletes basically have handlers who they could easily just send off to get the proper information. Why wouldn't he have the doctor or his agent talk to MLB directly and ask if the drug or something in it is on the banned list? I'm sure MLB would happily do it to avoid one of their marquee players being suspended. I just don't understand why they just take something because the doctor told them, especially in the current climate of MLB where a bad test can be so detrimental.

All of that of coarse is assuming the "doctor gave it to me" excuse is true.

Your last sentence sums it up.

And what do the doctors gain from giving the players banned substances? Does it increase the doctor's paychecks? No. So why would they give the players banned substances?

Lies....

 

[The Messenger]

hahah I just saw the opportunity to take a shot at a yankee fan and couldn't resist buddy I agree with all of your points wholeheartedly.

I know.

Maybe people will leave baseball, the sport full of corruption, no salary cap, and rediculously overpaid players and switch over to the clean sport with a stable salary cap and players making what they earn...hockey

Let's hope not. For everyone's sanity. ;-) (fucking wink smiley)

 

[PP]

No i dont give a fuck. because all of these guys were using. theres no way to figure out who was, who is, etc etc. now if u test positive u get suspended and ur team is hurt. thats really the only way to combat it. leagues arent going to pull championships bc 1 player tested positive. even if manny was using while on sox. every team they played had other players using.

really when i heard this i felt like this may be like the JC romero situation because i give manny the benefit of the doubt since he doesnt really have the steroid body etc. obviously more will come out and if he was using well he gets his 50 games and loses 8 million and life goes on.