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Marshall being targeted for Trade

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IMO Boldin doesn't have any business being in that group.

I think Boldin is better than all three of those guys.

If i'm starting a team, i'd take Boldin over any of them.

Johnson is a one dimentional deep threat who's career declined rapidly, like most deep threats do.

TO destroys teams and is worthless over the middle with questionable hands.

Marshall is another guy who has questionable hands, and has only produced for a short period of time.

Boldin has glue sticks for hands, is tough as nails, has great size, can run any route effectively, plays hurt...the guy has it all. He's a much more complete player than tthe other three.
 
T.O will get in because of his stats.

His stats are no bettter than a bunch of other guys in the pass happy era he played in.

He has longevity and TD's on his side. He was never a high volume pass catcher or big yardage guy (in comparison to other HOF caliber guys from his era). His constant presence in the headlines will also help him, because he's been precieved as a bigger star than he really ever was.

His well deserved rep as a team killer and a guy who threw every QB he ever played with under the bus will hurt him badly, as media types hate that sort of thing.

It should also be noted that TO has played with Pro Bowl caliber QB's his entire career (Young, Garcia, McNabb, Romo), yet always complains about them, and always finds a way to alienate them and get kicked off the team as a result.
 
It should also be noted that TO has played with Pro Bowl caliber QB's his entire career (Young, Garcia, McNabb, Romo), yet always complains about them, and always finds a way to alienate them and get kicked off the team as a result.

I never really liked the argument about him playing with Pro-Bowl caliber Qb's, because that argument can go both ways. Young had arguable his best statistical year in '98 with Owens. So did Garcia in '01 & '02. Same with McNabb in '04 and Romo in '07.

All of a sudden T.O leaves and these guys still put up good numbers, but no where near what they did with him.
 
^^This

I think McDaniels is trying to make it Foxboro West out in Denver and I like it. That Super Bowl team in New England didn't have any stars at the WR position by any means..

I turely believe the same thing but I dont like it. lol

You're right NE started off with no star WR's, but look who's there now. Micky Danny is trying to be like his Godfather on the Pats, but Denver isnt NE... Denver's a run based team. Yea they got some receivers the thing is though the time it takes him to change the identity of Denver, he'll be looking for a job again.
 
^^This

I think McDaniels is trying to make it Foxboro West out in Denver and I like it. That Super Bowl team in New England didn't have any stars at the WR position by any means..
Oh come on Glen.. none of this would have happened had he not flirted with the idea of getting Matt Cassel the moment he took the job. He had a franchise caliber QB and a very talented WR at this disposal from day one.. and ran off the QB and is working on alienating the WR so much he will likely be gone not too long after.

Cutler and Marshall aren't innocent parties in all of this - but McDaniels ego is a major reason why the Broncos are beginning to spiral out of control. It's different when you let go of guys like David Givens and David Patten.. than Jay Cutler and Brandon Marshall.
 
Oh come on Glen.. none of this would have happened had he not flirted with the idea of getting Matt Cassel the moment he took the job. He had a franchise caliber QB and a very talented WR at this disposal from day one.. and ran off the QB and is working on alienating the WR so much he will likely be gone not too long after.

Cutler and Marshall aren't innocent parties in all of this - but McDaniels ego is a major reason why the Broncos are beginning to spiral out of control. It's different when you let go of guys like David Givens and David Patten.. than Jay Cutler and Brandon Marshall.

This.
 
I think Boldin is better than all three of those guys.

If i'm starting a team, i'd take Boldin over any of them.

Johnson is a one dimentional deep threat who's career declined rapidly, like most deep threats do.

TO destroys teams and is worthless over the middle with questionable hands.

Marshall is another guy who has questionable hands, and has only produced for a short period of time.

Boldin has glue sticks for hands, is tough as nails, has great size, can run any route effectively, plays hurt...the guy has it all. He's a much more complete player than tthe other three.

I agree 100%...my point wasn't that as a player he isn't in that group, but instead he has every right to be upset over his contract situation; however, he doesn't act like a little gril about it like the rest of those fools. I like Boldin and would take him over anyone not named Fitzgerald or Andre/Calvin Johnson.
 
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and since T.O. already pulled this shit and it didnt work out, how then will it work out for marshall? dallas and philly both got burned and this is a copycat league. other teams saw that and will not trade for him.

TO fucked over the 49ers and Eagles. TO was released by Dallas because everyone in the media blew the story up and made it out to be more than what it was. If TO remained with Dallas, I don't know too many players, coaches, or fans who would've minded.
 
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TO fucked over the 49ers and Eagles. TO was released by Dallas because everyone in the media blew the story up and made it out to be more than what it was. If TO remained with Dallas, I don't know too many players, coaches, or fans who would've minded.

That's a joke. TO was released by Dallas because the media blew the story up?? So Dallas now operates their organization based on what the media is reporting? Jerry Jones listens to the media to make decisions? Are you kidding me?

Dallas fans are still in denial about TO. TO was a nuisance and a distraction to Romo. Romo will be much better off without him this year.
 
That's a joke. TO was released by Dallas because the media blew the story up?? So Dallas now operates their organization based on what the media is reporting? Jerry Jones listens to the media to make decisions? Are you kidding me?

Dallas fans are still in denial about TO. TO was a nuisance and a distraction to Romo. Romo will be much better off without him this year.

Much better without a his main wide reciever the last three years? I think he will be worse without T.O.

As to Marshall, I think he should be traded. He seems to really want to and is acting like a little kid to try and do it.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njy5_zgi0A0"]YouTube - Brandon Marshall is an Ass Clown![/ame]
 
Much better without a his main wide reciever the last three years? I think he will be worse without T.O.

As to Marshall, I think he should be traded. He seems to really want to and is acting like a little kid to try and do it.

Yeah I really do think he will be better without TO. He will be able to spread the ball around more and check down more often to Jones (who is going to have a breakout year) and his other WRs.

But if Roy Williams is hurt then he will have a much tougher time out there. If he is healthy, I expect Romo to have a better season than last year.

And I'm not speaking just statistically, I'm talking wins and losses, game management, game winning drives, etc. I really believe TO got in Romo's head and forced Romo into throwing passes and playing tight.

I think he will much more relaxed and loose without TO and should really be able to manage his offense much more efficiently.

But this all depends on the health of Roy Williams and Felix Jones. If those 2 can stay healthy I see no drop off in Romo's production whatsoever.
 
As for the thread goes, the Jets are reportedly interested in Marshall. Broncos want nothing less than a 1st round pick. I hope they just do it and get it over with.
 
I never really liked the argument about him playing with Pro-Bowl caliber Qb's, because that argument can go both ways. Young had arguable his best statistical year in '98 with Owens. So did Garcia in '01 & '02. Same with McNabb in '04 and Romo in '07.

All of a sudden T.O leaves and these guys still put up good numbers, but no where near what they did with him.

My point was more along the lines that TO is never happy with his QB's, yet he's never had the displeasure of playing with a bad one.
 
I think Boldin is better than all three of those guys.

If i'm starting a team, i'd take Boldin over any of them.

Johnson is a one dimentional deep threat who's career declined rapidly, like most deep threats do.

TO destroys teams and is worthless over the middle with questionable hands.

Marshall is another guy who has questionable hands, and has only produced for a short period of time.

Boldin has glue sticks for hands, is tough as nails, has great size, can run any route effectively, plays hurt...the guy has it all. He's a much more complete player than tthe other three.

I disagree with your assessment of T.O. over the course of his career... maybe he's become bad over the middle, but he was a solid over-the-middle target as a 49er.

Other than that, I agree for the most part, but I think Marshall is a pro-bowl caliber WR and will be for a long time. He's had his issues, but they haven't matched T.O. in terms of being a diva. I think he can fit in somewhere and be a solid, productive #1 for a long, long time.

With that in mind, I vote Crabtree for Marshall, straight up.
 
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