MMA Thread

[Hogle]

Fedor is definitely not number 1

 

[JeremyHight]

the point is, people dont pay for affliction like they do for the UFC no matter what the card is, thats why Affliction is going broke and the UFC is not, there is no such thing as Affliction fanboys, you are paying to see the best fighter in the world...again

Affliction has brought you Fedor vs Tim, Fedor vs AA and now Fedor vs Barnett, something the UFC could not pull off and only a small percentage of MMA fans have supported it which is sad

Everyone who says they love MMA, thinks Fedor is number 1 and than dont pay for Affliction but buy every UFC are clowns

Fedor vs Barnett is the best possble HW fight at this point, it needs to be supported, but poeple look and see no UFC logo and pass

You do know the biggest buyers of sports PPVs aren't individuals but places like sports bars, right? Right now, a place isn't going to advertise "We have Affliction PPVs!" simply because no one knows the name. Rather than wasting money, they'll just pass on it.

I have nothing against Affliction or any other organization, but I go to BWW to watch the PPVs and if they don't carry the event, I'm not going to see it. I've asked before about Affliction and the waitress looked at me like I was from outer space. I ask about UFC and they'll say the date and time along with any drink specials.

 

[Liquidrob]

Fedor is definitely not number 1

He is easily the number 1 HW in the world and is either number 1 to 3 depending on which p4p rankings you see

just stop with this nonsense

 

[Liquidrob]

You do know the biggest buyers of sports PPVs aren't individuals but places like sports bars, right? Right now, a place isn't going to advertise "We have Affliction PPVs!" simply because no one knows the name. Rather than wasting money, they'll just pass on it.

I have nothing against Affliction or any other organization, but I go to BWW to watch the PPVs and if they don't carry the event, I'm not going to see it. I've asked before about Affliction and the waitress looked at me like I was from outer space. I ask about UFC and they'll say the date and time along with any drink specials.

that has nothing to do with my post

if you say you are a MMA fan, buy every or most UFC PPVs and pass on Fedor fighting in Affliction because its not a UFC show you are a clown, sorry, those are just facts

not saying you are one of them, just a point or rant I am making

If they dont show it at a bar you go to, just watch it at home

 

[JeremyHight]

If they dont show it at a bar you go to, just watch it at home

Thats the point I am trying to make. I (and millions like me) will go out to a bar, spend 15 bucks a piece, get some wings, beers, and get to watch the fights. 15 bucks isn't even half of the cost of the PPV alone.

Affliction should be working to get bars to carry their shit. If a place advertises a big MMA event with $2 beers like they do for UFC, they will get people in. They just need to make the marketing moves. UFC aligned with Bud Light, they worked to make it so their PPVs (even their low end ones) were carried in bars. Affliction is wanting to ride the coattails and quite frankly, if someone never sees an Affliction event, it isn't because they are clowns or ignorant, it is because of the poor marketing of Affliction.

Let me ask you, how many commercials have you seen for the Affliction PPV? Now, how many did you see for UFC 100 or any UFC event for that matter?

 

[Liquidrob]

Thats the point I am trying to make. I (and millions like me) will go out to a bar, spend 15 bucks a piece, get some wings, beers, and get to watch the fights. 15 bucks isn't even half of the cost of the PPV alone.

Affliction should be working to get bars to carry their shit. If a place advertises a big MMA event with $2 beers like they do for UFC, they will get people in. They just need to make the marketing moves. UFC aligned with Bud Light, they worked to make it so their PPVs (even their low end ones) were carried in bars. Affliction is wanting to ride the coattails and quite frankly, if someone never sees an Affliction event, it isn't because they are clowns or ignorant, it is because of the poor marketing of Affliction.

Let me ask you, how many commercials have you seen for the Affliction PPV? Now, how many did you see for UFC 100 or any UFC event for that matter?

like I said, nothing you are saying matters to me, thats afflictions problem, they dont have the advertising and money the UFC has plus overpaid fighters, etc..., but like I said, I dont care about that, everyone knows afflictions problems, you havent brought something new to the light, lol

You are either a MMA fan or a UFC fan, if you know that Fedor is fighting, you know how to watch him, you watch it, its that simple

If the only way you want to watch a MMA card (which is only the UFC at this point) in a bar than you are a UFC fan only and dont care about the rest of MMA

Affliction has out on 3 cards in the last year or 2 with Fedor as the headliner, if you want to watch it, you buy it, simple as that

 

[JeremyHight]

God, you sound like such an elitist prick. If you don't pay money to see a PPV, you are going to be demeaned and not thought of as a self proclaimed "MMA Expert" like Rob. WHO GIVES A SHIT IF PEOPLE WATCH AFFLICTION OR NOT?

Great, you pay cash to watch an event live on PPV, sweet, that doesn't make you any better than anyone else like you want to make it sound.

"Oh, you don't have Sunday Ticket and watch every NFL game? Then you aren't a football fan, you are just a Packers fan." Listen to yourself.

 

[Steel Mamba]

where are you going to get wings and beer for 15 bucks? Must be eating and drinking pretty light and not tipping at all. It's usually cheaper to buy the PPV at home and split it with some friends. At any rate Affliction has put on the best PPVs these past couple of years. Every Affliction card has trumped the UFCs, even the last Affliction was way better than UFC 100. With Affliction you always know you'll be getting your money's worth. Plus, I don't see how a fan can turn down watching Fedor vs AA or Fedor vs Barnett just because a bar isn't carrying it. Those are some must see matches and the undercard is always stacked too.

Also, this next PPV is suppose to be at a discounted rate, so I think everyone here should definitely buy this card, help support Affliction while treating yourself to the best MMA events in Affliction.

 

[Hogle]

hahaha, you're funny

 

[JeremyHight]

where are you going to get wings and beer for 15 bucks? Must be eating and drinking pretty light and not tipping at all.

24 wings, 4 beers, and a drink for the lady comes out to 30 bucks roughly with tip. Or 15 bucks a person. I love BWW.

And again, would you consider someone who doesn't pay for Sunday Ticket and just watches the games they get on CBS/NBC/Fox just a "Packers fan" and not a "Football fan"? No, because it is stupid.

If someone likes MMA, they will watch whatever they can get easily. Affliction has no regular show, they have no way to watch other than to pay to watch it. Just because someone doesn't want to fork over 40 bucks doesn't make them any less of a fan of MMA.

 

[Liquidrob]

God, you sound like such an elitist prick. If you don't pay money to see a PPV, you are going to be demeaned and not thought of as a self proclaimed "MMA Expert" like Rob. WHO GIVES A SHIT IF PEOPLE WATCH AFFLICTION OR NOT?

Great, you pay cash to watch an event live on PPV, sweet, that doesn't make you any better than anyone else like you want to make it sound.

"Oh, you don't have Sunday Ticket and watch every NFL game? Then you aren't a football fan, you are just a Packers fan." Listen to yourself.

again, what are you saying? nothing that has to do with what I am posting, I am not attacking you, if you fit the profile that I am talking about and dont like it thats your deal

It is not about Affliction, I dont care about Affliction, I dont buy there overpriced shirts, it is about paying for cards based on the fighters or the best fighter in the world

If you are a MMA fan and want to watch the best HW in the world who some think is the best fighter in the world, you find a way to watch and if you have to pay, you pay

If 'insert new promotion' pops up and puts on Fedor vs Overeem or Fedor vs Brett Rogers and a bunch of other good fighters like Vitor, Babalu, Gomi, etc...on it, I will more than likely pay for it because I like watching great fighters fight

This is multiple times you have come after me without me ever mentioning your name, try and keep it civil please, thanks

 

[RosettaStoned]

God, you sound like such an elitist prick. If you don't pay money to see a PPV, you are going to be demeaned and not thought of as a self proclaimed "MMA Expert" like Rob. WHO GIVES A SHIT IF PEOPLE WATCH AFFLICTION OR NOT?

Great, you pay cash to watch an event live on PPV, sweet, that doesn't make you any better than anyone else like you want to make it sound.

"Oh, you don't have Sunday Ticket and watch every NFL game? Then you aren't a football fan, you are just a Packers fan." Listen to yourself.

Rob is pretty much a douchebag 99% of the time. The other % is him posting funny pictures.

 

[Steel Mamba]

24 wings, 4 beers, and a drink for the lady comes out to 30 bucks roughly with tip. Or 15 bucks a person. I love BWW.

And again, would you consider someone who doesn't pay for Sunday Ticket and just watches the games they get on CBS/NBC/Fox just a "Packers fan" and not a "Football fan"? No, because it is stupid.

If someone likes MMA, they will watch whatever they can get easily. Affliction has no regular show, they have no way to watch other than to pay to watch it. Just because someone doesn't want to fork over 40 bucks doesn't make them any less of a fan of MMA.

This is a much different situation and I'm not trying to say that you're any less of a fan. If Affliction was well established and not on the brink of possibly going out of business then I wouldn't care if you bought the PPV or downloaded the fight afterwards. But, in this case I guess I just feel that the hardcore fans should almost feel obligated to support Affliction. We should all want them to stick around and the only way to have that happen is by buying their PPVs. Again if any PPV is worth $40 it's Affliction's. Also, this next card is suppose to be even cheaper than that, so it's well worth it.

 

[Liquidrob]

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[calgaryballer]

Back on topic, MMA Payout has a lawyer comment on the effects on IP (Intellectual Property) under the standard UFC contract

http://mmapayout.com/2009/07/intellectual-property-rights-under-the-zuffa-standard-contract/

 

[Bigpapa42]

And people wonder why a lot of hardcore fans have issues with the way that the UFC treats fighters...

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Bouts Announced For UFC 103

Mike Swick - Martin Kampmann
Josh Koscheck - Frank Trigg
Tyson Griffin - Hermes Franca
Sean Sherk - Gleison Tibau
Cole Miller - Efrain Escudero

No main event set yet, though it is expected Rich Franklin will headline the event. Cro Cop is also rumored to be on the card

The main event is Cro Cop vs. Junior Dos Santos.

UFC is running too many shows and obviously hurting for ME's.

The idea is that Dos Santos will win, and it will help elevate him. We'll see. I live in Texas now, 3 hours from Dallas, I might go to this.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

The main event is Cro Cop vs. Junior Dos Santos.

UFC is running too many shows and obviously hurting for ME's.

The idea is that Dos Santos will win, and it will help elevate him. We'll see. I live in Texas now, 3 hours from Dallas, I might go to this.

not as stacked as recent cards but still a decent one, i think it should be a free one but they seem to save all those for the overseas events.didnt realize but this PPV is going heads-up with the mayweather fight.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

You do know the biggest buyers of sports PPVs aren't individuals but places like sports bars, right? Right now, a place isn't going to advertise "We have Affliction PPVs!" simply because no one knows the name. Rather than wasting money, they'll just pass on it.

The part in bold is actually not even close to being accurate.

UFC 100 is estimated to have done between 1.4-1.7 million ppv buys.

Bars/restaurants/etc accounted for.... a whopping 5,000 of those buys. Those 5,000 buys are an all time record for any PPV event in history.

And the reason most bars won't show Affliction, or boxing that dosent involve PBF or Oscar, or wrestling other than WrestleMania, is because they have to pay based on square footage, and if you cant cover the cost in cover charges, there is no reason to order the event. Bars don't pay the same $40 induviduals pay. A large place can pay upwards of $1000 to air a ppv.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Back on topic, MMA Payout has a lawyer comment on the effects on IP (Intellectual Property) under the standard UFC contract

http://mmapayout.com/2009/07/intellectual-property-rights-under-the-zuffa-standard-contract/

Half of the shit Dana tries to impose would never hold up in court. And the fighters know it. Otherwise, they would never sign that shit.

You can't trademark a birthname as intellectual property. That's why Vince McMahon gives everyone a gimmick name.