NBA Draft Rumors

[Rudi]

Cavs plan on taking Jonas. Fuck my life. Fuck the Cavs, I'm getting a new team.

 

[Juggernaut]

This is arguably one of the worst draft classes ever, but I can't help but be excited for tonight. Really want to see who wins and/or fucks up.

And about Kanter to WAS, it would be a great move. Andray Blatche should be moved, dude's a nutcase who fought with McGee.

 

[FedEx227]

There's no great players but there's a decent amount of tweeners and bench guys hanging around.

 

[FedEx227]

I wonder if anyone in the entire league will take Maggette for absolutely ANYTHING

From Woj:
Partial of deal: The Bucks get Stephen Jackson, Shaun Livingston, sources say. Charlotte gets the 7th pick and Corey Maggette.

 

[ralaw]

This is arguably one of the worst draft classes ever, but I can't help but be excited for tonight. Really want to see who wins and/or fucks up.

And about Kanter to WAS, it would be a great move. Andray Blatche should be moved, dude's a nutcase who fought with McGee.

I have a hard time believing this class will be worse than the 2000 draft.

1. Kenyon Martin, Cincinnati New Jersey
2. Stromile Swift, LSU Vancouver
3. Darius Miles, East St. Louis HS (Mo.) L.A. Clippers
4. Marcus Fizer, Iowa State Chicago
5. Mike Miller, Florida Orlando
6. DerMarr Johnson, Cincinnati Atlanta
7. Chris Mihm, Texas Chicago (1)
8. Jamal Crawford, Michigan Cleveland (1)
9. Joel Przybilla, Minnesota Houston (2)
10. Keyon Dooling, Missouri Orlando (3)
11. Jerome Moiso, UCLA Boston
12. Etan Thomas, Syracuse Dallas
13. Courtney Alexander, Fresno State Orlando (4)
14. Mateen Cleaves, Michigan State Detroit
15. Jason Collier, Georgia Tech Milwaukee (2)
16. Hidayet Turkoglu, Turkey Sacramento
17. Desmond Mason, Oklahoma State Seattle
18. Quentin Richardson, DePaul L.A. Clippers
19. Jamaal Magloire, Kentucky Charlotte
20. Speedy Claxton, Hofstra Philadelphia
21. Morris Peterson, Michigan State Toronto
22. Donnell Harvey, Florida New York (5)
23. DeShawn Stevenson, Washington Union HS (Calif.) Utah
24. Dalibor Bagaric, Croatia Chicago
25. Iakovos Tsakalidis, Greece Phoenix
26. Mamadou N'diaye, Auburn Denver
27. Primoz Brezec, Slovenia Indiana
28. Erick Barkley, St. John's Portland
29. Mark Madsen, Stanford L.A. Lakers

:turrible:

 

[EmpireWF]

Was about to post how the 01 draft was as bad...but compared to 2000, hell no.


2001 Draft

1. Kwame Brown - BUST
2. Tyson Chandler - turned into a damn good pro
3. Pau Gasol - perennial all-star
4. Eddy Curry - BUST
5. Jason Richardson - good player
6. Shane Battier - good player
7. Eddie Griffin - BUST
8. DeSagana Diop - BUST
9. Rodney White - BUST
10. Joe Johnson - all star
11. Kedrick Brown - BUST
12. Vladimir Radmanovic - bench player
13. Richard Jefferson - good player
14. Troy Murphy - good player
15. Steven Hunter - BUST
16. Kirk Haston - BUST
17. Michael Bradley - BUST
18. Jason Collins - BUST
19. Zach Randolph - very good player
20. Brendan Haywood - average player?
21. Joseph Forte - BUST
22. Jeryl Sasser - BUST
23. Brandon Armstrong - BUST
24. Raul Lopez - BUST
25. Gerald Wallace - above average player
26. Samuel Dalembert - above average player
27. Jamaal Tinsley - average player
28. Tony Parker - all star

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2nd round had Arenas, Okur, Earl Watson as the only worthwhile names taken

 

[FedEx227]

Jerome Moiso.

My day is complete.

 

[EmpireWF]

Quickly checked out the top 10 picks of each of the past 11 years to see how many turned out to be busts..the guys named below are obviously the ones I did not consider to be busts.

2000 Draft
3/10 (KMart, Miller, Crawford…Przybilla and Dooling are debatable) - 70% Bust

2001 Draft
5/10 (Chandler, Gasol, JRich, Battier, JJohnson) - 50% Bust

2002 Draft
6/10 (Yao, Dunleavy, Gooden, Nene, Amare, Butler) - 40% Bust

2003 Draft
7/10 (LBJ, Melo, Bosh, Wade, Kaman, Hinrich, Ford) - 30% Bust

2004 Draft
7/10 (Howard, Okafor, Gordon, Harris, Childress, Deng, Iguodala) - 30% Bust

2005 Draft
8/10 (Bogut, Marvin, Deron, Paul, Felton, CharlieV, Frye, Bynum) - 20% Bust

2006 Draft
6/10 (Bargnani, Aldridge, TThomas, Roy, Foye, Gay) - 40% Bust

2007 Draft
6/10 (Durant, Horford, Conley, Green, Noah, Hawes) - 40% bust

2008 Draft
9/10 (Rose, Beasley, Mayo, Westbrook, Love, Gallo, Gordon, Augustin, Lopez) - 10% Bust

2009 Draft
7/10 (Griffin, Harden, Evans, Flynn, Curry, DeRozan, Jennings) - 30% Bust {Rubio is an unknown}

2010 Draft
too early to tell

So an average of about 35% of top ten picks turn out to be busts.

 

[EmpireWF]

Apparently, Kemba has a "minor" knee issue that is causing his slide tonight.

From Woj:
Partial of deal: The Bucks get Stephen Jackson, Shaun Livingston, sources say. Charlotte gets the 7th pick and Corey Maggette.

Bucks Get: Stephen Jackson, Shaun Livingston, Beno Udrih, 19th Pick

Bobcats Get: 7th Pick, Corey Maggette

Kings Get: 10th Pick, John Salmons


Charlotte would keep the 9th pick and they may be targeting Triston Thompson who Detroit wanted.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Was about to post how the 01 draft was as bad...but compared to 2000, hell no.


2001 Draft

1. Kwame Brown - BUST - Servicable Big.
2. Tyson Chandler - turned into a damn good pro - Starting Championship Center
3. Pau Gasol - perennial all-star - Starting Championship Center and All-Star. Top 25 Player in the game.
4. Eddy Curry - BUST - less of a servicable big than Brown.
5. Jason Richardson - good player - Role player.
6. Shane Battier - good player - Role player.
7. Eddie Griffin - BUST - Definition of a bust.
8. DeSagana Diop - BUST - Bust.
9. Rodney White - BUST - Definition of a bust.
10. Joe Johnson - all star - All-Star.
11. Kedrick Brown - BUST - Definition of a bust.
12. Vladimir Radmanovic - bench player - deep bench player...was good for a small period of time.
13. Richard Jefferson - good player - Yup.
14. Troy Murphy - good player - Yup.
15. Steven Hunter - BUST - Definition of a bust.
16. Kirk Haston - BUST - Definition of a bust.
17. Michael Bradley - BUST - Definition of a bust.
18. Jason Collins - BUST - Not a bust...was serviceable for a few years.
19. Zach Randolph - very good player - Very very good player.
20. Brendan Haywood - average player? - Been a very strong player, especially on defense fora while.
21. Joseph Forte - BUST - Definition of a bust.
22. Jeryl Sasser - BUST - Definition of a bust.
23. Brandon Armstrong - BUST - Definition of a bust.
24. Raul Lopez - BUST - Definition of a bust.
25. Gerald Wallace - above average player
26. Samuel Dalembert - above average player - Very strong player for a while.
27. Jamaal Tinsley - average player
28. Tony Parker - all star

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2nd round had Arenas, Okur, Earl Watson as the only worthwhile names taken

There actually was some good role players taken there.

 

[FedEx227]

There actually was some good role players taken there.

Is it also really fair to call the 24th pick in the draft a bust? I think we're missing the point of a bust.

 

[Mogriffjr]

Quickly checked out the top 10 picks of each of the past 11 years to see how many turned out to be busts..the guys named below are obviously the ones I did not consider to be busts.

2000 Draft
3/10 (KMart, Miller, Crawford…Przybilla and Dooling are debatable) - 70% Bust

2001 Draft
5/10 (Chandler, Gasol, JRich, Battier, JJohnson) - 50% Bust

2002 Draft
6/10 (Yao, Dunleavy, Gooden, Nene, Amare, Butler) - 40% Bust

2003 Draft
7/10 (LBJ, Melo, Bosh, Wade, Kaman, Hinrich, Ford) - 30% Bust

2004 Draft
7/10 (Howard, Okafor, Gordon, Harris, Childress, Deng, Iguodala) - 30% Bust

2005 Draft
8/10 (Bogut, Marvin, Deron, Paul, Felton, CharlieV, Frye, Bynum) - 20% Bust

2006 Draft
6/10 (Bargnani, Aldridge, TThomas, Roy, Foye, Gay) - 40% Bust

2007 Draft
6/10 (Durant, Horford, Conley, Green, Noah, Hawes) - 40% bust

2008 Draft
9/10 (Rose, Beasley, Mayo, Westbrook, Love, Gallo, Gordon, Augustin, Lopez) - 10% Bust

2009 Draft
7/10 (Griffin, Harden, Evans, Flynn, Curry, DeRozan, Jennings) - 30% Bust {Rubio is an unknown}

2010 Draft
too early to tell

So an average of about 35% of top ten picks turn out to be busts.

Marvin Williams is a bust...#2 pick, and he still hasn't found his niche yet...can't even get consistent starting minutes.

Charlie V...meh, he's been a solid starter, guess you can have that.

 

[NAHSTE]

Marvin Williams is a bust...#2 pick, and he still hasn't found his niche yet...can't even get consistent starting minutes.

Charlie V...meh, he's been a solid starter, guess you can have that.

Who ever said wondering around aimlessly without the ball and clumsily dribbling directly into a defender with the ball isn't a niche?

Also, there are rumors that Minnesota will give us the #2 for Smoove. If they really want another mercurial forward on their team, I'd say yes to that deal in .000001 seconds.

Kanter at the 5 allows Horford to play his natural position and makes our roster pieces actually fit ... Even if Kanter is a stiff it makes Horford 10% better so anything the Big Turk would give us would be a bonus.

 

[EmpireWF]

1. CLE- PG Kyrie Irving
2. MIN- F Derrick Williams
3. UTA-C Enes Kanter
4. CLE- C Jonas Valanciunas
5. TOR- PG Brandon Knight
6. WAS- F Jan Vesely
7. CHA- F Tristan Thompson
8. DET- C Bismack Biyombo
9. CHA- G Klay Thompson
10. SAC- PG Jimmer Fredette

Looks like this is the top ten with questions being will Minny keep the pick and who Charlotte takes at 9.

This is assuming Stephen Jackson doesn't hold up the 3 way trade.