NBC Considering Moving Back Leno, Conan and Fallon

[EmpireWF]

The only reason NBC allowed this to happen is because it costs them less to let Conan walk (around $35-40 mil) than it would to let Leno walk (I read over $100 mil).

Leno had years to build his audience. Conan had 7 months.

 

[NAHSTE]

Anyone else think the Leno-Conan situation is pretty much identical to Favre-Rodgers? Forgive me if it's been said before, but there's a lot of parallels. Mostly how Rodgers/Conan were put in a bad situation and people rallied around them and lashed out at the waffling old-timer who pulled the rug out of his successor after "passing the torch"

 

[Marley]

Anyone else think the Leno-Conan situation is pretty much identical to Favre-Rodgers? Forgive me if it's been said before, but there's a lot of parallels. Mostly how Rodgers/Conan were put in a bad situation and people rallied around them and lashed out at the waffling old-timer who pulled the rug out of his successor after "passing the torch"

And Rodgers got more than 7 months in the starting job. Now he has playoffs, back to back 4000+ passing yards on his belt and is looking better than Brett Favre was at the same age.

 

[Marley]

Umm, Pretty sure NBC refused to release Jay from his contract and wanted to move him to Primetime because they thought he would go somewhere else for a while.




Again NBC's decision because they wouldn't let Leno out of his contract and if Leno just left that meant he would be sued by NBC.



Okay so NBC coming to Leno and stating they wanted to take the Jay Leno show down to half an hour, move it to 11:35 and push Conan and the Tonight Show back One half hour is such a big deal.

I don't know how much successful people you have ever really been around but to be honest, I have a lot of them around me and I've always been the nice courteous guy that doesn't want to make people mad, but the successful ones are asses, they are tough and do what it takes to succeed and not just be a doormat. There is an unwritten rule in life that you should go by and that is looking out for number 1(yourself, your family, all things immediately revolving around you). You have to do it or you will be ran over.

The guy may have done some "douchebag" things but you cannot blame him for something that wouldn't even be happening in the first place had the focal point of your argument (Conan being the best late night show host on tv) been true and people tuned in.

You are trying to pin all of these excuses on Jay Leno but there are reasons behind things. If Leno was so bad, why'd he get the ratings. Its completely logical to move Leno back to 11:35 where he has captured more viewers than Letterman for many years for just 30 minutes and then lead in with that large audience to Conan with the majority viewers to beat out Letterman for the second half of Letterman's show.

Its almost like hearing an argument that if the Lions drafted better they'd be in a better position now. They had their shot and missed it. Conan got a shot, then was told he was keeping the same show but moving back half an hour, then he made some huge ordeal about it and it ended up pissing off a bunch of people who never watched his show to begin with. Its dumb and really baffles me that you cannot see that.

 

[EmpireWF]

until NBC caps its ass

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aYrBjt5oPs"]YouTube- Conan Last Tonight Show - Free Bird[/ame]

 

[citizenerased]

I assume Conan the Pimp will be taking his ho Deon Cole with him?

Gotta see more of him when Conan sets up on Fox or wherever.

 

[Marley]

I assume Conan the Pimp will be taking his ho Deon Cole with him?

Gotta see more of him when Conan sets up on Fox or wherever.

Bet Conan thought he was the most talented writer with the most potential to be a stand up comedian.

 

[DJ Fog]

The only thing wrong with Freebird.. was it needed more cowbell.

 

[KillaK]

I didn't know coco could jam like that.

 

[EmpireWF]

And Zucker walks away from this unscathed? Fuck that.

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[IamMedellin]

so Apparently NBC views Conan's 45 million dollar settlement as a bargain.

This is b/c had Conan continued to host the tonight show with his steady ratings, then NBC wouldve lost $5 million on the show for the year.

This is in contrast to the $50 million in profit NBC made off of the Tonight show in Jay Leno's last year...

NBC really believes this lil controversy wont hurt them in the ratings When Leno returns to the tonight show

 

[red33]

all i know is im not watching the tonight ever again.

 

[Marley]

all i know is im not watching the tonight ever again.

Same here. Letterman from here on out, then Craig Ferguson, but when Conan comes back I'm ditching Letterman for Conan.

 

[EmpireWF]

Do you think Leno can rebuild his audience?

 

[NAHSTE]

I never watched Leno to begin with, the chances of that happening now are zilch.

 

[citizenerased]

Doubtful. He'll have his usual following of older fans, but he's essentially alienated himself from the younger crowd. Don't be surprised to see a lot of backlash towards him in the form of weak ratings.

I'm hoping that his ratings end up being terrible, and NBC is stuck with him. Who would they replace him with now? Jimmy Fallon?

The Tonight Show with Carson Daly has a sexy ring to it! (/end sarcasm)

Letterman would explode if Carson Daly ever ended up with the Tonight Show. He was ripping him almost as bad as Leno during this whole ruckus.

 

[Buzzman]

I like Jimmy Fallon where he is. He has good guests, usually has a good musical guest and is generally funny.

 

[Herm]

Conan and Ferguson were by far the funniest hosts on tv. Its a shame to see CoCo gone.

 

[NAHSTE]

I like Jimmy Fallon where he is. He has good guests, usually has a good musical guest and is generally funny.

:mclovin:

 

[Marley]

:mclovin:

I actually do think Fallon can be funny at times on his show. The bad audiences he gets doesn't seem to help that but I'd still rather take Craig Ferguson over Fallon on Late Late Night shows.