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NCAA 11 Impressions

started season 2. Got off to a great start recruiting. Four 5 stars, and two 4 stars. All had OSU as their first choice
 
I just had a good game against the cpu. C+ Illinois vs my B- Purdue. I picked some playbook I wasn't familiar with trying to run the wildcat with Justin Siller. Ended up being lost on offense all game because of it.

Went down 24-14 due to them capitalizing off my turnovers. Start of 4th quarter I user catch this pass and don't even know how.

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Then I get distracted and miss the XP. Now I'm down 24-20 and need a TD to score. I get the ball back a couple of times and get into the redzone but can't finish. Shouldn't be losing to bum ass C+ teams like that :(.
 
that was a great play. i love nice plays like that.

something i noticed about year 2. they have some teams, like me, going to the 2nd half of the home and home for non con opponents. Like Miami came to OSU in yr1 and now i goto miami in year 2. i wonder who i will have in year 3.

problem though is some teams also dont have the correct season finale game. For example OUS/Mich is the 2nd to last week now with BGSU my final game. you know, they got it right with the home and home and also flipped around the my big ten schedule as they should. They are alternating home/away and also switching it up so i play teams i didnt play in year 1.

but then they go and screw it up by not having michigan as my finale. And its like that for alot of teams.
 
I thought I was going to be able to score a used copy today. A store near me showed just getting it in stock on the website. Upon checking the store, no such luck. I have a feeling one of the fucking employees promptly "borrowed" it as soon as it was traded in.
 
NCAA 11 is OK, but to be honest, the only game that has kept my attention is Tiger Woods 11.
I still suck at it, but love it nonetheless.

funny thing is that madden will play the same. that demo is just like ncaa gameplay. what is really starting to get on my nerves is the DB issue. I find that the more i play the more i run drags, slants, RB routes and passes to the slot guys. Its because of the DB's running the routes. i notice it all the time now because i have learned my playbook inside and out. So i am trying to be more creative and when i look at my 2 outside guys i cant get them anything anymore unless i move them to the slots. It makes passing very boring when i am running the same plays over and over.

i tried using lower coverage but it doesnt seem to be helping. It seems like with lower coverage that now the CPU compensates by calling the perfect defense for any play i run. Its probably just my imagination and i am probably just having a off night.
 
funny thing is that madden will play the same. that demo is just like ncaa gameplay. what is really starting to get on my nerves is the DB issue. I find that the more i play the more i run drags, slants, RB routes and passes to the slot guys. Its because of the DB's running the routes. i notice it all the time now because i have learned my playbook inside and out. So i am trying to be more creative and when i look at my 2 outside guys i cant get them anything anymore unless i move them to the slots. It makes passing very boring when i am running the same plays over and over.

i tried using lower coverage but it doesnt seem to be helping. It seems like with lower coverage that now the CPU compensates by calling the perfect defense for any play i run. Its probably just my imagination and i am probably just having a off night.

I thought you told me several times the DB wasn't an issue with slider adjustments?
 
Man these dbs mirroring WRs is really starting to get annoying playing online and online dynasties. I'm never throwing an out route on this game, the cb jumps it perfectly and either intercepts it (most of the time scoring) or swats it.

I threw one the other day and the db had his back turned to me, the second i released the ball he just turns jumps it.

what is really starting to get on my nerves is the DB issue. I find that the more i play the more i run drags, slants, RB routes and passes to the slot guys. Its because of the DB's running the routes. i notice it all the time now because i have learned my playbook inside and out. So i am trying to be more creative and when i look at my 2 outside guys i cant get them anything anymore unless i move them to the slots. It makes passing very boring when i am running the same plays over and over.

i tried using lower coverage but it doesnt seem to be helping. It seems like with lower coverage that now the CPU compensates by calling the perfect defense for any play i run. Its probably just my imagination and i am probably just having a off night.



I thought you told me several times the DB wasn't an issue with slider adjustments?

That was me. And it's not. Set Pass coverage AI to 35 and the mirroring issue is gone.
 
I thought you told me several times the DB wasn't an issue with slider adjustments?

i did say that and it hasnt been until i started looking for it. I play with cover at 75 and i lowered it to 50. But last night was a off night for me and a night where a great team was playing great.....i was really frustrated.

I did test coverage in practice mode and 35-40 does eliminate it like FT said
 
i did say that and it hasnt been until i started looking for it. I play with cover at 75 and i lowered it to 50. But last night was a off night for me and a night where a great team was playing great.....i was really frustrated.

I did test coverage in practice mode and 35-40 does eliminate it like FT said

40 works? I thought on 40 they start to mirror rather than react a bit. I know 35 is as high as I push it. Maybe I'll go into practice tonight and check out 40.
 
i actually had it working on as high as 45. Which seemed like the max for me. i just kept practicing hook routes against cover 2 man to see where the DB breaks on the route. The lower you go, the less he is likely to break on the route at the same time as the WR.

of course none of this seems to apply to when i am in game. Its like going to the driving range and hitting the ball perfect then u get on the course and its a line drive bouncing off the ground
 
i actually had it working on as high as 45. Which seemed like the max for me. i just kept practicing hook routes against cover 2 man to see where the DB breaks on the route. The lower you go, the less he is likely to break on the route at the same time as the WR.

of course none of this seems to apply to when i am in game. Its like going to the driving range and hitting the ball perfect then u get on the course and its a line drive bouncing off the ground

35 may be the threshold for in game then.?
I'm sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense. That part of the game sounds so fucking broken.
 
I'm sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense. That part of the game sounds so fucking broken.

I've never seen the mirroring issue corrected with any slider setting but 35 and below. In game or in practice mode. I've tinkered with that slider a lot. I will try it again tonight but I was almost 100% positive 35 was the max you could go with no mirroring.
 
I'm sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense. That part of the game sounds so fucking broken.

broken could be one way to describe. I think of it as unbalanced. If EA made the threshold at 50 instead of 35 we wouldnt think of it as broke, it would just be balanced.

keep in mind that this is only a man to man issue. Using a 10 yard in pattern as an example. What happens is the WR goes 10 yards and makes his break in. The problem is that the DB will make his break before or at the same time as the WR. With higher coverage slider the DB break before (most of the time) the WR, but sometimes the play works as is should and the DB gets fooled so to speak and the WR is open.

Lower the slider down to 35 and the DB does not break on the pattern and you can clearly see the WR makes his break in with the DB being 2 or more steps behind....on hooks i have seen them 3-5 yards off leaving me plenty of time to complete the pass. Of course alot of that depends on the WR and the DB ratings, but u see what i am saying.

here is where going to 35 causes problems for people. Zone coverage gets reduced too and can cause easy completions into the coverage. U just have to lower the Accuracy to a level that is fair so that every pass isnt a gimmie.

EA needs to tune down the man 2 man coverage so that when the slider is at 50 u can get solid zone and solid man coverage without sacrificing.

and keep in mind that this same issue will be in madden. u just have to hope EA tunes it so it feels right.
 
I've never seen the mirroring issue corrected with any slider setting but 35 and below. In game or in practice mode. I've tinkered with that slider a lot. I will try it again tonight but I was almost 100% positive 35 was the max you could go with no mirroring.

i will be honest, my testing of this has been minimal and the success i may have had at 45 could have been.....not thoroughly tested
i do know that when i went to 35 i had no troubles in practice mode
 
I'm sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense. That part of the game sounds so fucking broken.

It's broken in that you learn comeback routes, in/out routes, and sometimes slant routes against man coverage are basically useless. Especially to outside receivers, it doesn't seem to affect the slot receiver/tight end. These routes work really well against zone.

Here's an example, it's not the best one because I never should've thrown this ball, but you can see the CB turn and jump my WR route before my WR even turns.

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Well said. I've been getting pretty good results. When factoring in getign a better pass rush, more realistic coverage, and lower QB accuracy sliders for both CPU and User I've been getting really good games.

In the end while the pass coverage may be a bit of an issue while in zone the bigger issue is getting a really good/fair pass rush. If that happens QB start hurrying their throws and become more off target which balances out the somewhat softer zones.
 
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