NFL lightens up on blackout rules

[ZoneBlitz]

And the NFL is not as far from seven days a week as you think. There will be weeks with 4 days of NFL football this season. There will be games played on Sun, Mon, Wed, Thurs, and Sat this year. There will be games played essentially every 2.5 days. You don't see the slow trend of more & more football each season?

The only reason there will be football on a Wednesday, is because that Thursday is taken up by a presidential speech. BS example is BS.

And the season will only have Saturday football ONE week this season...another BS example.

You don't think the league will try to add a 4th full time day to the NFL Network schedule (Wed) at some point? They will never go seven, because the union will never allow Tuesday, but I would bet on four, and I would bet on Fri & Sat games becoming more common once high school & college games end in November.

So we're barely at 3 days/week, and you're already anticipating 4 days/week (we dont know that will happen), and anticipating that 4 days/week will have negative effect on the league (we also dont know that would happen). Lots of worrying on your part for no tangible reason.

Also, 4 days/week is still far from 7 days/week.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

The bottom line, is that there will be football played on more days of the week this year, and that there will also be more national TV games overall. A trend that started a few years ago, and continues every year.

Why are you in denial that the NFL expands the national schedule each year?

How long before there are two games every Monday night? Should I bump this 18 months from now when NFL Network grants ESPN a second Monday game beyond Week 1, and starts up a Wednesday slate for NFL Network?

Nobody ever sees overexposure coming. The first sign will be when Sunday afternoon ratings start to slip. And they will, since the games are of worse and worse quality the more prime time games the league adds.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

The bottom line, is that there will be football played on more days of the week this year, and that there will also be more national TV games overall. A trend that started a few years ago, and continues every year.

Sounds pretty damn good to me.

How long before there are two games every Monday night? Should I bump this 18 months from now when NFL Network grants ESPN a second Monday game beyond Week 1, and starts up a Wednesday slate for NFL Network?

Id love that, im a huge fan of the opening monday night with 2 games.

Nobody ever sees overexposure coming. The first sign will be when Sunday afternoon ratings start to slip. And they will, since the games are of worse and worse quality the more prime time games the league adds.

Even if what you say is true...so what?? Do you own stock in the league that you're afraid will lose value?

The league wont go bankrupt, it will still be around, and there will be more football for us hardcore fans to watch. STFU and enjoy the games.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Scarcity is the most underused tool in sports today. Noone actually understands how important this is.

Sundays need to mean something. Mon/Thurs/Sunday + Sat in dec = over exposure. In the last two years Ive watched maybe two thursday night games. All the rest were "oh wait...there was a game yesterday ?"
I still dont know anyone personally that tunes in to thanksgiving night on NFLN.

2 days a week. Late in the season when bunches of games may mean something. Maybe I get it. But the NFL wants 3 "days" a week. Thats a recipe for who gives a fuck.
1/4/9 on sunday MNF (potentially two) TNF
Thats a third of the games each week on national tv. There just arent that many compelling matchups no matter how many OMGZ LAST MINUTE 4 TDS IN ARI/CINCY GAME!! headlines you read.

I havent even started on the new breed of fans who simply keep track of games via apps and fantasy trackers rather then tune in to matchups.

Ask this guy if overexposure helps.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

Scarcity is the most underused tool in sports today. Noone actually understands how important this is.

Sundays need to mean something. Mon/Thurs/Sunday + Sat in dec = over exposure. In the last two years Ive watched maybe two thursday night games. All the rest were "oh wait...there was a game yesterday ?"
I still dont know anyone personally that tunes in to thanksgiving night on NFLN.

2 days a week. Late in the season when bunches of games may mean something. Maybe I get it. But the NFL wants 3 "days" a week. Thats a recipe for who gives a fuck.
1/4/9 on sunday MNF (potentially two) TNF
Thats a third of the games each week on national tv. There just arent that many compelling matchups no matter how many OMGZ LAST MINUTE 4 TDS IN ARI/CINCY GAME!! headlines you read.

I havent even started on the new breed of fans who simply keep track of games via apps and fantasy trackers rather then tune in to matchups.

Ask this guy if overexposure helps.

I ask you the same thing i asked Warner...so what if there is overexposure? Are you afraid of the league going bankrupt?

I couldnt care less if casual fans lose interest in the NFL, ill still be watching.

 

[NAHSTE]

Not sure what's worse, Zoneblitz not understanding the concept of over exposure, or Zoneblitz not realizing the effects of overexposure aren't noticeable immediately.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I ask you the same thing i asked Warner...so what if there is overexposure? Are you afraid of the league going bankrupt?

I couldnt care less if casual fans lose interest in the NFL, ill still be watching.

Because this is a thread about the NFL blackout restrictions, which morphed into how that effects business and the general business practices of the NFL. We aren't talking about whether we enjoy the NFL or how much we like the NFL, it's a thread about how they do business. In specific, how they choose to air their product.

A major part of the growth & appeal of the NFL is the "big event" aspect of the games. Once per week, with 'the big game' of the week on Monday, then six days later you are ready and hungry for more. The other sports have to play every night, it's the nature of the game, they have no choice. Football has the luxury of taking advantage of the "less is more" theory, and without going in circles here, it is of my opinion that they are in danger of ruining that advantage that they have over the other sports.



Now if you are asking me personally, I get turned off by the amount of coverage the NFL gets. I'm just exhausted by it and tired of having it shoved down my throat. I don't need the three lead stories on ESPN in June to be NFL related. I don't need a three hour special for the schedule reveal in March, when we already knew the schedule the day after the regular season ended. I don't need three days of the mundane NFL Draft on tv and two months of NFL Draft talk. You can say "then don't watch it", but if you're a sports fan, its unavoidable. Come home from work in March or April or June, try to catch up on some NBA or MLB highlights, and what do you get? Mel Kiper breaking down the ILB's on his big board, or Herm Edwards droning on about Tim Tebow. Turn on the radio, and it's Bounty Gate. Now we have Jaws ranking the NFL QB's - in June/July. Enough already. By the time the games come on in September, i'm sick of the over analysis, im sick of the same topics being beaten to death, im sick of the league. Just wait until PRESEASON GAMES are the top stories come August. I mean, who gives a fuck? I remember when Plaxico Burress caught his first preseason TD for the Jets last year, which was a 100% insignificant non story, and it was the lead story on SC, they had gap tooth cunt Rachael Nichols live on the scene, and they had Mark Schlereth in the studio to break it down. ENOUGH!

So for me, it's already over exposed. I've grown tired of it, all day Sunday is too much, I gave up on the third Sunday game years ago, so i'm not watching this shit on a Thursday. The NFL already asks men to ignore their families and hijack the TV for 12 hours on Sundays, I don't know how many other days of the week they think wives will put up with football, or how much of this game (with no defense anymore) we can even take at this point as fans.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

Now if you are asking me personally, I get turned off by the amount of coverage the NFL gets. I'm just exhausted by it and tired of having it shoved down my throat. I don't need the three lead stories on ESPN in June to be NFL related. I don't need a three hour special for the schedule reveal in March, when we already knew the schedule the day after the regular season ended. I don't need three days of the mundane NFL Draft on tv and two months of NFL Draft talk. You can say "then don't watch it", but if you're a sports fan, its unavoidable. Come home from work in March or April or June, try to catch up on some NBA or MLB highlights, and what do you get? Mel Kiper breaking down the ILB's on his big board, or Herm Edwards droning on about Tim Tebow. Turn on the radio, and it's Bounty Gate. Now we have Jaws ranking the NFL QB's - in June/July. Enough already. By the time the games come on in September, i'm sick of the over analysis, im sick of the same topics being beaten to death, im sick of the league. Just wait until PRESEASON GAMES are the top stories come August. I mean, who gives a fuck? I remember when Plaxico Burress caught his first preseason TD for the Jets last year, which was a 100% insignificant non story, and it was the lead story on SC, they had gap tooth cunt Rachael Nichols live on the scene, and they had Mark Schlereth in the studio to break it down. ENOUGH!

OK, so you dont like all of ESPN's coverage on the NFL. Me either, i dont watch most of it.

That however is not a valid reason that the NFL should have less games per week. Most people who dont like ESPN's programming just dont watch it.

If you force yourself to sit through it for MLB coverage, i suggest you subscribe to the MLB network.

for me, it's already over exposed. I've grown tired of it, all day Sunday is too much, I gave up on the third Sunday game years ago, so i'm not watching this shit on a Thursday. The NFL already asks men to ignore their families and hijack the TV for 12 hours on Sundays, I don't know how many other days of the week they think wives will put up with football, or how much of this game (with no defense anymore) we can even take at this point as fans.

Well at least now you're admitting that YOU'RE the one with growing displeasure/disinterest with the NFL...instead of pretending you're just concerned about the league.

To that i say, tough shit, i dont really care whether or not you watch the NFL...ill enjoy watching the extra 3rd game/week regardless.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

Not sure what's worse, Zoneblitz not understanding the concept of over exposure, or Zoneblitz not realizing the effects of overexposure aren't noticeable immediately.

Whats worse is hardcore baseball geeks who watch MLB 7 days/week telling us that NFL 3 days/week is too much.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Whats worse is hardcore baseball geeks who watch MLB 7 days/week telling us that NFL 3 days/week is too much.

The fact that I am willing to watch baseball every day, or that you are willing to watch as many NFL games as they will air every week, has nothing to do with the topic at hand or whether the NFL is potentially headed towards over exposure.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

OK, so you dont like all of ESPN's coverage on the NFL. Me either, i dont watch most of it.

That however is not a valid reason that the NFL should have less games per week. Most people who dont like ESPN's programming just dont watch it.

If you force yourself to sit through it for MLB coverage, i suggest you subscribe to the MLB network.



Well at least now you're admitting that YOU'RE the one with growing displeasure/disinterest with the NFL...instead of pretending you're just concerned about the league.

To that i say, tough shit, i dont really care whether or not you watch the NFL...ill enjoy watching the extra 3rd game/week regardless.

I never said I was 'concerned' with the NFL, I couldn't care less whether the NFL dips in popularity or not. You asked me a question, and I provided you my personal anecdotes as to why i'm growing increasingly tired with the NFL.

I don't know if the NFL has reached the point of over saturation, but what I do know, is that nearly every move they make creeps them closer to finding out.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

The fact that I am willing to watch baseball every day, or that you are willing to watch as many NFL games as they will air every week, has nothing to do with the topic at hand or whether the NFL is potentially headed towards over exposure.

It has to do with why you bring it up in the 1st place.

Yes, there is potential for over-exposure. But we have no idea at what point that would become a factor.

So you bringing it up is just an excuse for you to complain about the quality & amount of NFL games, which you were already tired of to begin with.

Too bad for you, but at least you have your MLB 7 days a week. I rather watch paint dry or grass grow than watch a second of baseball, but you dont see me complaining about MLB saturation.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

So you agree with the idea that there is potential over exposure breaking point, but for some reason you are annoyed that I bring it up, even though this is a thread about NFL television exposure, which would seem to be a suitable place to discuss it. Makes sense.

And again, the baseball comparisons are flat out stupid, because one of the primary reasons the NFL blew by baseball and all of the other sports as a television property is because...well, think about it for a second and then fill in the blank.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

So you agree with the idea that there is potential over exposure breaking point, but for some reason you are annoyed that I bring it up, even though this is a thread about NFL television exposure, which would seem to be a suitable place to discuss it. Makes sense.

Yes, because like i said, you dont have any basis for bringing it up. There is zero evidence that the NFL is reaching over-exposure. You been complaining & crying about "over exposure" since years ago...and been wrong since years ago. Until you have any evidence to support your complaints you should STFU.

And again, the baseball comparisons are flat out stupid, because one of the primary reasons the NFL blew by baseball and all of the other sports as a television property is because...well, think about it for a second and then fill in the blank.

Is because...the NFL airs less games per week? Thats a completely baseless and stupid argument. There have been more NFL games added per week, and the NFL hasnt showed any signs of slowing.

 

[MrBill]

But attendance at NFL games has been slowing....or at least that is what the data says to me. The reason it is slowing isn't because people don't want to go to the games. It's more because the cost of going to a game has skyrocketed over the past 5 years and people have started taking advantage of watching Sunday Ticket or RedZone broadcasts of the games in the comfort of their own homes. I like having my iPad going with fantasy football scores and drinking the booze and snacks that I picked up at Costco more than spending $250 to go deal with parking, drunks, lines and inflated concession prices.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

^ The reason attendance is slowing has nothing to do with more games being aired per week. If NFL ratings were to drop, that would show over-exposure.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Yes, because like i said, you dont have any basis for bringing it up. There is zero evidence that the NFL is reaching over-exposure. You been complaining & crying about "over exposure" since years ago...and been wrong since years ago. Until you have any evidence to support your complaints you should STFU.

My stance is that they are creeping towards over exposing the product, and need to be careful not to over saturate the market, because once they do, and the public has enough, there is no turning back.

I'm not sure why you are arguing so hard against this basic and inarguable principle which applies to any form of entertainment.

Is because...the NFL airs less games per week? Thats a completely baseless and stupid argument. There have been more NFL games added per week, and the NFL hasnt showed any signs of slowing.

The bold is all I need to hear. You are completely lost and have no clue.

The second unbolded part i'm not even going to touch, because we've now gone is a full circle, and you still don't get it.

You remind me of my cousin, who got hit by a car and was awarded an injury settlement. He received a few hundred thousand dollars per year for like 5 years. So he quit his job and lived off the settlement money. Everybody warned him that the money would stop coming one day, and that he should probably not spend so lavishly and even go back to work at some point. He didn't listen, because "they keep sending me checks!".

"They keep sending me checks!" = "The NFL hasn't shown any signs of slowing!"

 

[ZoneBlitz]

My stance is that they are creeping towards over exposing the product, and need to be careful not to over saturate the market, because once they do, and the public has enough, there is no turning back.

I'm not sure why you are arguing so hard against this basic and inarguable principle which applies to any form of entertainment.

For the last time, im not arguing against your stance. Im pointing out that over-exposure is far from happening, and that there are no signs its even on the horizon.

The bold is all I need to hear. You are completely lost and have no clue.

The second unbolded part i'm not even going to touch, because we've now gone is a full circle, and you still don't get it.

Pretty sure the one who doesnt get it is you. You implied that THE sole reason why the NFL became so popular is because it only aired 1/2 times a week. I can list many other reasons why its popular...it being on 1/2 times a week wasnt the only reason for it.

You remind me of my cousin, who got hit by a car and was awarded an injury settlement. He received a few hundred thousand dollars per year for like 5 years. So he quit his job and lived off the settlement money. Everybody warned him that the money would stop coming one day, and that he should probably not spend so lavishly and even go back to work at some point. He didn't listen, because "they keep sending me checks!".

"They keep sending me checks!" = "The NFL hasn't shown any signs of slowing!"

Wow, what a horrificly moronic comparison, and complete change of stance.

By that comparison, you've gone from simply claiming "hey, over-exposure is a risk"...to implying "its a FACT that over-exposure will occur." Really? You dont even know how the Thursday night games will be received, nor do you know if the NFL will stop adding games.

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Also, even assuming that over-exposure does happen ...like i said before, i dont give a shit...the league will still be around, and ill still be watching all the games they air, just like you watch mlb 7 days a week.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Well, now you are just putting words in my mouth, so i'm done with this.

Also, if you "don't give a shit" if the NFL ends up suffering from over exposure, then why are you bothering to argue about it so passionately like I insulted your sister or something?

 

[ZoneBlitz]

Well, now you are just putting words in my mouth, so i'm done with this.

No im not, that was the implied message of your comparison.

Also, if you "don't give a shit" if the NFL ends up suffering from over exposure, then why are you bothering to argue about it so passionately like I insulted your sister or something?

Because i love football and hate baseball. :lesmug: