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figures i cut britt last week cause he was bumming it up :rage:

god, my WR's are beat. steve smith (nyg) has been a major bust this year. had some yards and a TD today but hasnt done jack shit the rest of the year.
 
Of course, the day I bench Ray Rice is the day where he decides to actually score a touchdown.

Doesn't matter, I'm still winning by 70.
 
finally Kolb starts and he finds Celek. please dear god I never want to see Mike Vick in the line up again.

File this under stuff you probably know already:

The difference for this season between Vick and Kolb is that Kolb is more of a checkdown/possession receiver-type QB while Vick loved to bomb it downfield.

This lead to Maclin/Celek owners getting at least 20 points a game (until about 1-2 games ago when Maclin was finally held to without a TD catch after getting one in every game before that this season).

So yeah, I'm with you in the distinction that not wanting to see Vick on the field, if not in a starting QB role.

Empire said:
Is Fox really going to go back to Moore after the bye?

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It's time to go back to Turd Sandwich, Empire...
 
figures i cut britt last week cause he was bumming it up :rage:

god, my WR's are beat. steve smith (nyg) has been a major bust this year. had some yards and a TD today but hasnt done jack shit the rest of the year.

I'm still waiting on Mario Manningham to be anything more than a one-catch a game type.

You'd think Hakeem Nicks would share receiving duties but that seems to be not the case.
 
It's interesting to see others' FF philosophy.

I have 3 rules that I stand by:

1. Never bench your studs - I don't care if Chris Johnson or Ray Rice is going up against the 85 Bears. If I drafted them in the 1st round then I am going to start them every week no matter what. I'd much rather lose because my first round pick got shut down than watch them go off on my bench as the nobodies I started over them, Ryan Torain or BenJarvus Green-Ellis, lay eggs and lose me the game.

2. Never trade a stud/superstar for depth - Only way I am trading a stud is if I get a stud in return. A stud is someone who can blow up for 30 points on any given day and it's not just a 1 time a year thing. A stud is also generally an integral part of his team's offense, meaning he will get his touches no matter who they are playing.

3. Go with your gut - I have my "rules that I stand by" and I enjoy playing the match up game as much as anyone, but I've learned to go with my gut 99% of the time now rather than the "smart" play. Just like rule #1, I hate when I go with the "smart" play over the guy I knew that was going to have a good game just because some dumb ass projections told me Baltimore's D will be too tough for Kyle Orton and Matt Schaub is an every week starter.

With that said:

Kyle Orton Vs. NYJ

Or

Matt Schaub Vs. KC

Having 2 good quarterbacks can be as much of a pleasure as it is a pain. This same shit happened to me last season with Kurt Warner and Schaub and I started the wrong guy every fucking week until I traded one of them away because I couldn't handle it anymore.

I'm thinking I have to go with Orton after his 300 yard, 2 TD performance @ Baltimore. Schaub is one of those guys that can go for 40 but it is usually against sub-par teams. He usually shits the bed against good teams and after watching the Chiefs give Manning fits, I don't think I really have a choice.
 
Mark Clayton done for the year, so who should I go after?

Danny Amendola - not a PPR league
Louis Murphy - No QB to throw him the ball consistently
Deion Branch - should have better value in NE, but who knows.

for week 6 I have 3 starters so it isn't an immediate need, but who should I pursue, chances are I may have to put in for all 3 but what order should I put them in?

Sidenote:

Jets Defense is killing me tonight, I had a huge lead going into tonight with Holmes still going, but going against Edwards and Jets D, this is going to be close.
 
Kyle Orton Vs. NYJ

Or

Matt Schaub Vs. KC

Orton's a Top 5 FF QB at this point while Schaub is middling at best.

Like you said, start Orton.

nflman said:
Mark Clayton done for the year, so who should I go after?

Danny Amendola - not a PPR league
Louis Murphy - No QB to throw him the ball consistently
Deion Branch - should have better value in NE, but who knows.

for week 6 I have 3 starters so it isn't an immediate need, but who should I pursue, chances are I may have to put in for all 3 but what order should I put them in?

Branch/Murphy/Amendola.

Branch is the best of three on potential alone.
 
My Team:
QB Matt Schaub, Hou
RB Frank Gore, SF
RB Jahvid Best, Det
RB/WR Michael Bush, Oak
WR Calvin Johnson, Det
WR Hakeem Nicks, NYG WR
TE Antonio Gates, SD TE
D/ST 49ers D/ST
K Nate Kaeding, SD K

Clinton Portis*, Was RB
Donald Brown, Ind RB
Brandon Lloyd, Den WR
Mike Williams, Sea WR
Jason Witten, Dal TE
Michael Jenkins, Atl WR
Dwayne Bowe, KC WR


Team B:
QB Kevin Kolb, Phi QB
RB Shonn Greene, NYJ RB
RB Chris Johnson, Ten RB
RB/WR Mike Thomas, Jac WR
WR Santonio Holmes, NYJ
WR Malcom Floyd, SD
TE Chris Cooley, Was
D/ST Steelers
K Mike Nugent, Cin

C.J. Spiller, Buf RB
Steve Slaton, Hou RB
Davone Bess, Mia WR
Michael Vick, Phi QB
Jeremy Maclin, Phi WR
Ryan Fitzpatrick, Buf QB
Titans D/ST, Ten D/ST
 
Trade Offers

Trade Offers

Offer 2
Team B sends RB Chris Johnson Ten, TE Chris Cooley Was, Titans D/ST Ten
FOR
My Team sends TE Antonio Gates SD, RB Jahvid Best Det and Brandon Lloyd Den WR

I don't think this is a very good trade for my team, however I want to make a play for Chris Johnson... Any suggestions on a counter offer?
 
I hate to bump a thread but need I some insight from some guys that actually live and breath this shit. For gods sake I'm unemployed and this is a fucking pay league for big money! I have a chance to rape the worst guy in the league in this trade.

*For what its worth I trust VSN the most out of anyone I "know" when it comes to the NFL.
 
In a PPR league, should I make this deal?

I'd get: Brandon Marshall & Frank Gore
I'd send: Roddy White & Jahvid Best

My line-up right now looks like:

QB Josh Freeman/Aaron Rodgers
WR Roddy White
WR Braylon Edwards
WR Wes Welker
RB Arian Foster
RB LeSean McCoy
TE Tony Moeaki

RB Jahvid Best
RB Ryan Torain
TE Visanthe Shiancoe
WR Lance Moore
WR Santonio Holmes
TE Jermanie Graham
WR/RB Stefan Logan (return yards)
RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis
 
I have Best in one of my leagues and he scares me to death... He's young injury prone and has been cold for a coulpe weeks now. Plus he's on the Lions without the starting QB.

Frank Gore is a beast he catches the ball out of the back field and runs with a purpose! Plus he plays in the NFC West. He is somewhat injury prone and on a bad team. But the thing is that division is that bad they might have a chance or atleast be in contention late in the season.

As far as the WRs go Marshall is much better then White. On paper White looks better because he has the better QB.

IMHO Marshall would be the better WR cause White has a worse supporting cast around him at WR in ATL. At some point opponents double teams will work. The number 2 WR is on the bench in ATL because of injury.

*But White plays against a worse division.

So, Gore is definetly the better RB over Best, but its a toss up between Marshall and White. I personally lean toward Marshall, SLIGHTLY.
 
Offer 2
Team B sends RB Chris Johnson Ten, TE Chris Cooley Was, Titans D/ST Ten
FOR
My Team sends TE Antonio Gates SD, RB Jahvid Best Det and Brandon Lloyd Den WR

I don't think this is a very good trade for my team, however I want to make a play for Chris Johnson... Any suggestions on a counter offer?

You're giving up automatic scores with Gates. I like Lloyd. I say unless you really desperately want CJ, hold off.
 
Empire, I say pull the trigger on Marshall/Gore trade. White may be the more valuable receiver, but in a PPR, Marshall has serious upside. Gore is a beast, and should be solid the rest of the year. Especially with a new OC.

BroncoBlue, I keep trying to come up with a trade that involves Chris Johnson. Do you want to hang on to Calvin?
 
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