Official Fantasy Football Discussion

[MrBill]

What you should do is trade one of them to get value somewhere else on your team. At least that's what I did. I had Peyton Manning and Orton......Orton is producing as much as Manning, while Manning has more value, so I traded Manning for some runningback help. Think about it. Every week Vick and Rodgers are going to get you 20+ points (at least in my league), so you're leaving 20+ points on the bench...every week.

That's one school of thought. However the trade deadline in most leagues has already passed. I ended up with Brees as the 7th player taken in the draft but he's riding the bench behind Vick right now. My roster was strong enough that I really didn't need anybody so trading would have just helped out my opponents. If somebody is scoring on your bench and you are still winning, it has the same effect as taking 20+ points away from somebody else in your leagues score each week.

 

[ralaw]

That's one school of thought. However the trade deadline in most leagues has already passed. I ended up with Brees as the 7th player taken in the draft but he's riding the bench behind Vick right now. My roster was strong enough that I really didn't need anybody so trading would have just helped out my opponents. If somebody is scoring on your bench and you are still winning, it has the same effect as taking 20+ points away from somebody else in your leagues score each week.

Yeah, but you aren't facing that opponent every week. I'd rather add the return value of an elite 20+ points player every week to my lineup.

 

[Tailback U]

I watch the stats of Jennings and Driver very closely since they are both on my fantasy team and you are exactly right. Jennings will have the occasional huge game but but with the defensive attention that he gets, day in day out it is Driver that is producing catches and moving the chains.

I understand why people think Jones or Nelson can be better than Driver... 2nd and 3rd rounders, respectively.. and Driver is, what, 35??.. but it sure hasn't happened for them as of yet.

.. this may finally be the year, but personally, I'm still betting the farm against it based on how underwhelming Nelson and Jones have been when Jennings and Driver have been healthy.

Driver really wasn't doing that much.

Week 1: 5 catches, 30 yards, TD
week 2: 4 catches, 38 yards, TD
week 3: 9 catches, 61 yards
week 4: 3 catches, 89 yards, TD
week 5: 4 catches, 58 yards
week 6: 3 catches, 31 yards

30 yards and a TD in the first two games and then in week 4 against detroit he had 3 catches, two of which were a 48 yard catch and a 29 yard TD. His 9 catch game was against Chicago where he caught 5 yard hitches all game.

Guy is averaging like 3-4 catches a game and around 35 yards and his role actually diminished when Finley went out. Jennings started to get more looks once Finley dropped and now with the quad issue, Driver's value has diminished even more.

Jones, on the other hand, has had two games with over 100 yards over the last 3 games. His value is going up, especially if Driver is hindered at all.

Don't get me wrong, Driver is still a great possession WR, but that's all he is pretty much. Similar to Hines Ward in Pittsburgh. Jones is more explosive and has more upside.

 

[Fappin Raptor]

What you should do is trade one of them to get value somewhere else on your team. At least that's what I did. I had Peyton Manning and Orton......Orton is producing as much as Manning, while Manning has more value, so I traded Manning for some runningback help. Think about it. Every week Vick and Rodgers are going to get you 20+ points (at least in my league), so you're leaving 20+ points on the bench...every week.

I already have Gore and Hillis for RB. Harvin, Amendola, S. Holmes, and Nicks at WR, with Tamme at TE. I could improve on my WR area a little but anyone in need of a QB doesn't really have solid enough WRs to trade for.

EDIT: And nvm, the trade deadline passed.

 

[BigHouseUSA]

Yeah, I had shipped Orton and Vick to everyone in our league, and no one bite. Then I dropped Vick when the deadline passed.

 

[MrBill]

Yeah, I had shipped Orton and Vick to everyone in our league, and no one bite. Then I dropped Vick when the deadline passed.

You dropped the hottest fantasy player in the entire NFL heading into the playoff stretch in lieu of keeping Kyle "Neck Beard" Orton?

:jonesy:

 

[MrBill]

.. as for Jones, I'm just not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. In his 3+ years as a Packer, he hasn't shown me anything that would lead me to believe he can be a starter in this League.

Driver is clearly better than Jones in all facets of the game. The only thing that Jones has going for him is youth and speed. For all the upside he has, he drops passes and makes killer fumbles in crucial situations.

 

[AnArtofWar]

NYJ D or Oak D? I have no clue which team to start...Pitt seems to go off against mediocre teams but Oak always seems to pull tons of points of out its ass...NYJ D has done mediocre for me this entire year...but who knows, especially if Schaub ends up reinjuring himself or if he ends up even going...never know the Texans.

 

[EmpireWF]

Austin Collie or Steve Johnson?

 

[MmmmBeeeeer]

Collie might see a lot of action because Garcon can't hold on to the ball to save his life, and all week the local sports radio guys were talking about how he's pushing his way out of Mannings "circle of trust"

<==He makes amazing catch in my av. However, only a few series before that catch he dropped a pass right to him while he was standing still and no defender within 5 yards of him...
<He makes amazing catch in my av. However, only a few series before that catch he dropped a pass right to him while he was standing still and no defender within 5 yards of him...


/end rant

 

[MrBill]

NYJ D or Oak D? I have no clue which team to start...Pitt seems to go off against mediocre teams but Oak always seems to pull tons of points of out its ass...NYJ D has done mediocre for me this entire year...but who knows, especially if Schaub ends up reinjuring himself or if he ends up even going...never know the Texans.

The NYJ are a much better defense and have a better match up today. I'd go with them.

Austin Collie or Steve Johnson?

I'd go with Steve Johnson today.

 

[Tailback U]

The NYJ are a much better defense and have a better match up today. I'd go with them.



I'd go with Steve Johnson today.

Pretty obvious choices there.

I have Tamme as my starting TE and I have a TE/WR flex spot where I can start any of these guys:

Donald Driver @ Minnesota
James Jones @ Minnesota
Dustin Keller Vs. HOU

I am leaning towards Keller since I have no idea how many snaps Driver will play.

 

[MrBill]

Considering that the Texans have the worst pass defense in the league, Keller is a good option. Driver and Jones will probably offset each others snaps today.

 

[EmpireWF]

I'd go with Steve Johnson today.

I SHOULD HAVE LISTENED

:suicide:

 

[MrBill]

I SHOULD HAVE LISTENED

:suicide:

I saw what he did in my high rollers league and was glad I didn't play against him. Looks like I'm going to be 3-0 this week.

The funny thing is that a guy traded me Tom Brady and Rashard Mendenhall for Michael Vick in one of my leagues and we are playing each other today. I'm up 111.23 to 21.51 with Brady still rolling points and he has Bradshaw and Vick tonight.

Starting Vick in my other 2 leagues and am rolling before he even plays tonight :gold:

 

[Tailback U]

Considering that the Texans have the worst pass defense in the league, Keller is a good option. Driver and Jones will probably offset each others snaps today.

That's what I was thinking. Keller notched a 0 and Jones got 11.

Probably going to end up costing me the win.

Dropping Keller after today for Mike Williams or Meachem.

 

[MrBill]

That's what I was thinking. Keller notched a 0 and Jones got 11.

Probably going to end up costing me the win.

Dropping Keller after today for Mike Williams or Meachem.

Jones got lucky on a TD grab that could have been called incomplete or he wouldn't have done anything today. Keller didn't do anything either but you can't second guess yourself on making the right start. Over the long run, that pays off but there are weeks where it doesn't work out.

 

[Tailback U]

Eh, Jones has been hot the last 3 weeks, Keller's been cold for a while now.

Plus I have Santonio Holmes so starting him and Keller is starting to look like a bad choice. Keller's production has severely dropped since Holmes return. He's been utterly useless for a few weeks now.

 

[BigHouseUSA]

You dropped the hottest fantasy player in the entire NFL heading into the playoff stretch in lieu of keeping Kyle "Neck Beard" Orton?

:jonesy:

He's my backup.

 

[St. Francisco]

Just wanted to show you guys the most competitive FF league I've ever been in. $200 entry fee for each team, winners gets a grand. Top 6 teams get into the playoffs. Here are the standings with two games left:

1. 8-3
2. 6-5
3. 6-5
4. 6-5
5. 6-5
6. 5-6 (Me)
7. 5-6
8. 5-6
9. 5-6
10. 3-8

Still anyone's game...this is the best league I've ever been in, simply because no one is giving up.