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[NAHSTE]

Fractional points are stupid. If your league had a championship end in a tie, your league commissioner is a dumb fuck for not picking a tie breaker.

Bench points are good.

 

[MmmmBeeeeer]

Fractional points too much for you to handle? Why should it have to drop to a gay tiebreaker when you could just have fractional points which account for every yard?

Also, we had a tie one year in FF years ago and we've ran fractional ever since

I agree that non-fractional is very amateur, and probably not being played for money

 

[Fappin Raptor]

Fractional points are stupid. If your league had a championship end in a tie, your league commissioner is a dumb fuck for not picking a tie breaker.

Bench points are good.

Bench points sound really stupid. The players are on the bench for a reason, not to help get any points. Sounds like a weak league format.

 

[theMINI]

I don't use my bench to get points I use my bench to for handcuffs, good matchups or waiting for some guy I think will produce eventually. WTF

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Fractional points are stupid. If your league had a championship end in a tie, your league commissioner is a dumb fuck for not picking a tie breaker.

Bench points are good.

Why are they stupid? You've said this twice now but have yet to give a legit reason.

There is NO reason someone with 51 yards deserves the same reward as someone with 59 yards. For them both to be worth 5 pts is borderline retarded. What the hell could possible bother you about fractional points? You're not doing the math yourself, you're just getting a ton more accurate read on things.

They dont round down your yards in real football, why should they in fantasy football? (Just using your real life/fantasy comparison).

Why should there even need to be a tie-break? If for some reason you still end up ties with fractional points (which would be truly remarkable), then ok.. I can see a tie breaker. But franctional points usally prevent that from happening and for good reason. Every single year in my pools atleast one game is decided by a .10th of a point or so.. thats how it should be.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Fractional points too much for you to handle? Why should it have to drop to a gay tiebreaker when you could just have fractional points which account for every yard?

Also, we had a tie one year in FF years ago and we've ran fractional ever since

I agree that non-fractional is very amateur, and probably not being played for money

It definitely should NOT be played for money. Theres no legitimacy there. Rounding down your yardage is absolutely hideous IMO.

 

[theMINI]

I would like to know what is so bad about factional points as well....

 

[NAHSTE]

Why wouldn't fractional points be stupid? They aren't real points. That's like getting paid fractions of pennies at your job. And I don't mind 59 yards counting the same as 50. Do you reward someone a first down if they pick up 9 yards on 3rd and 10? No. The yardage milestones are what they are for a reason.

Sorry our league differs from the norm, but fractional points would never fly in ours. Paid league by the way.

The only thing I think is stupider than fractional points is PPR. That and team defenses. (We do IDPs)

 

[theMINI]

What if someone rushes for 9 yards and another one rushes for 1 yard. Should they both be given the same amount of points?

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Why wouldn't fractional points be stupid? They aren't real points. That's like getting paid fractions of pennies at your job. And I don't mind 59 yards counting the same as 50. Do you reward someone a first down if they pick up 9 yards on 3rd and 10? No. The yardage milestones are what they are for a reason.

Sorry our league differs from the norm, but fractional points would never fly in ours. Paid league by the way.

The only thing I think is stupider than fractional points is PPR. That and team defenses. (We do IDPs)

Im still waiting for a reason that they are, ive already given a few why they arent.

And WTF kind of flawed logic is "thats like getting paid fractions of pennies at your job", no, its like getting paid normally. Is getting paid 59 cents the same as getting paid 51 cents? No, its not. Are they both rounded down to 50? No. Furthermore, the first down comparison may be even more ridiculous.. once again, do they round down your yardage totals in the NFL? No.. 73 yards is 73 yards... not rounded down to 70. That would be absolutely asinine.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Just to show an example here..

Player A: 79 Yards = 7.9 Pts
Player B: 49 Yards = 4.9 Pts
Player C: 107 Yards = 10.7 Pts
Player D: 38 Yards = 3.8 Pts
Player E: 97 Yards = 9.7 Pts

Total = 37

Player A: 71 Yards = 7.1 Pts
Player B: 42 Yards = 4.2 Pts
Player C: 100 Yards = 10 Pts
Player D: 33 Yards = 3.3 Pts
Player E: 91 Yards = 9.1 Pts

Total = 33.7 Pts

And this is just with 5 Players. So thats a 3.3 pt swing right there. Why the hell should they both be worth the same amount of points when they blatantly are not?

 

[NAHSTE]

What if someone rushes for 9 yards and another one rushes for 1 yard. Should they both be given the same amount of points?

If you need 10 yards for a point, then yes. (We do 15 yards per point, but same principal) You shouldn't get credit for partially succeeding. If you need 15 yards to score a point, I'm not giving you half credit for 7 yards.

Do they give you 3 points in the NFL when you get to midfield?

Does the team with the most yardage always win?

No and no. Fantasy football is a simulation game based on real football. If you want to have a "who can have the most yards" competition, be my guest, our league prefers it a different way. You have to earn your points.

 

[Tailback U]

I have to agree with Kuzzy here.

I lost in the semifinals due to a tie (his team had more total TDs so he won the tiebreaker).

It's bullshit. I'd rather get outscored by fractional points then lose on that BS.

 

[NAHSTE]

I have to agree with Kuzzy here.

I lost in the semifinals due to a tie (his team had more total TDs so he won the tiebreaker).

It's bullshit. I'd rather get outscored by fractional points then lose on that BS.

Why don't you just make the yardage totals the tie breaker then? You're basically saying you don't mind getting credit for 1 yard. My league doesn't like it that way and we never will. If you like it that way fine, but I disagree.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

If you need 10 yards for a point, then yes. (We do 15 yards per point, but same principal) You shouldn't get credit for partially succeeding. If you need 15 yards to score a point, I'm not giving you half credit for 7 yards.

Do they give you 3 points in the NFL when you get to midfield?

Does the team with the most yardage always win?

No and no. Fantasy football is a simulation game based on real football. If you want to have a "who can have the most yards" competition, be my guest, our league prefers it a different way. You have to earn your points.

Do you round down to the lowest common dominator when someone finishes with an odd amount of yards in the NFL?

How is someone with 31 yards EARNING the same amount of points as someone with 39? You're rewarding mediocrity by not giving fractional points. Basically one guy has to do less then another to get the same reward.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Why don't you just make the yardage totals the tie breaker then? You're basically saying you don't mind getting credit for 1 yard. My league doesn't like it that way and we never will. If you like it that way fine, but I disagree.

Why would you even need a tie breaker when the fractional points are going to the determine the real winner. Based on non-fractional points there you'll never know who the real winner is because when someone does less then another player then receive the same amount of points. How can that ever be an accurate assessment of things?

 

[calgaryballer]

Do you round down to the lowest common dominator when someone finishes with an odd amount of yards in the NFL?

How is someone with 31 yards EARNING the same amount of points as someone with 39? You're rewarding mediocrity by not giving fractional points. Basically one guy has to do less then another to get the same reward.

I.E, a guy who runs for 61 yards every week ends up with 976 yards. A guy who runs for 69 has 1104 yards. Which back is better? They're probably at the negotiating table going 'nah man, I broke sixty so I deserve the same as that other guy'

 

[NAHSTE]

Difference of philosophy I guess. You guys reward yardage too much in my opinion. In your view, my league doesn't reward yardage enough. It's all about what you prefer.

We prefer it our way, you prefer it your way. We've been doing this league for 5 years and we all like it so we aren't about to change it up.

What about my other two dislikes, PPR leagues and team defenses? How do you guys stand those?

 

[Tailback U]

I'm in 2 leagues that give .5 for receptions.

I don't mind it. Not my favorite format, but I like the change up. Makes you draft a little bit differently and gives credit to guys that get catches, after all, they record the stat for a reason, right?

And I love drafting team defenses. I probably over-analyze a bit but I'm usually really good at picking defenses based on stats (sacks, points allowed, turnovers forced, TDs, etc.) because I do more research than most of the other guys in my league. I sometimes carry 2-3 defenses in my league just to play matchups because I think it's fun. It's not the smartest roster strategy, but I think it's fun, and that's what it's all about for me.