PSU Penalties: $60 Mil Fine, 4-Year Bowl Ban, 40 Schollies Over 4 Years, Wins Vacated

[svetz17]

If you'd use a little more punctuation, we could all read your posts better.

You seem to be very naive you can read my posts fine now you are just starting to try and piss me off now you are trolling.

 

[EmpireWF]

so lets punish all these people for the misdeeds of, what, 10 slimeballs?? makes sense

they have new people in place, all of the old guard that let these terrible things happen are gone (and need to all be punished as severely as possible), but you guys still want to punish them, even though they had absolutely nothing to do with the situation? i understand making an example of PSU, but those rumored punishments go too far...

The meaning behind whatever punishment comes there way has little to do with individuals but the psychology that 'we must do whatever we can to protect football, to protect the school.' There's no doubt PSU is being made an example of in a very severe way.

A less bombastic type of punishment, any of us could come up with some.....any profit the football program makes gets donated....no bowl games, whatever the fuck.

I'll be interested to hear their exact reasoning for whatever the punishment turns out to be. They didn't just roll out of bed and say let's fuck up Penn State. I bet it's all about the culture that was built by the school to allow what ultimately happened to fester.

 

[svetz17]

I'll keep that in mind. I hope you get on the thread after the penalties are announced so you can see my improved grammer. You have shown me the light and the error of my ways.

 

[Atlas]

The meaning behind whatever punishment comes there way has little to do with individuals but the psychology that 'we must do whatever we can to protect football, to protect the school.' There's no doubt PSU is being made an example of in a very severe way.

A less bombastic type of punishment, any of us could come up with some.....any profit the football program makes gets donated....no bowl games, whatever the fuck.

I'll be interested to hear their exact reasoning for whatever the punishment turns out to be. They didn't just roll out of bed and say let's fuck up Penn State. I bet it's all about the culture that was built by the school to allow what ultimately happened to fester.

so you are ok with millions of people being affected by this, even though they had nothing to do with the actions of these 10 idiots slimeballs??? b/c im not...

im fine with making an example of them, but not this severely to where it hurts so many people, a town, a state, even a conference...

also, lol at you using the word bombastic and then falling off to not making a point...

 

[EmpireWF]

millions?

 

[Atlas]

millions?

yes millions, and the fact that you dont understand that it is millions shows your lack of knowledge of land grant institutions and how they affect their respective states... so yes, it is millions of people...

 

[svetz17]

Thank you admin for deleting PP's comment. I had a lot to say about that remark.

 

[MrBill]

I don't understand the witch hunt against the people who had absolutely no knowledge of what was happening in the athletic department. The thousands of people on staff at PSU, the people who own businesses that survive off of fans coming to home games, etc. Everyone that had even the slightest involvement has been dismissed with prejudice from the school. There were no violations that the NCAA can justify with a straight face that allow them to destroy the economy of an entire college and town.

 

[Maynard]

You seem to be very naive you can read my posts fine now you are just starting to try and piss me off now you are trolling.

i said that too. your lack of punctuation is troll worthy, but because you are new to the site people seem to be letting it slide....myself included. you need to fix that cause its making your posts not worth reading

 

[svetz17]

i said that too. your lack of punctuation is troll worthy, but because you are new to the site people seem to be letting it slide....myself included. you need to fix that cause its making your posts not worth reading

I am sorry. I was flustered and will take punctuation in to account for my next posts. However, I do not see how puncuation is troll worthy? explain?

 

[Maynard]

I don't understand the witch hunt against the people who had absolutely no knowledge of what was happening in the athletic department. The thousands of people on staff at PSU, the people who own businesses that survive off of fans coming to home games, etc. Everyone that had even the slightest involvement has been dismissed with prejudice from the school. There were no violations that the NCAA can justify with a straight face that allow them to destroy the economy of an entire college and town.

i dont see a witch hunt against the people with no knowledge. they are going to feel the effects. But dont blame the punishers for the effects they will feel...blame the president of the university and anyone under him who allowed this to happen

you guys seem to be overlooking that fact. the president of the university allowed this to happen. he is the highest power at that school so anyone under him will feel the effects. Maybe next time the board of directors wont hire a staff of scum bag pieces of shit.

 

[Maynard]

I am sorry. I was flustered and will take punctuation in to account for my next posts. However, I do not see how puncuation is troll worthy? explain?

this is vsn...anything is troll worthy

:yao:

 

[Maynard]

also....i am sick and tired of reading people say that everyone involved has been punished. BULLSHIT they have...that school hasnt been punished...sure the individuals have been punished or will be punished or have died....but that school is also culpable for the crimes that took place.

The school empowered the highest of authority to empower staff and coaches to hide the fact they had a man raping children for years. It starts with the school.....the ncaa punishment is a good start, but not and end

 

[svetz17]

this is vsn...anything is troll worthy

:yao:

I see. Well this issue hits home, pretty hard. The last thing I was thinking about was puncuation.

 

[MrBill]

i dont see a witch hunt against the people with no knowledge. they are going to feel the effects. But dont blame the punishers for the effects they will feel...blame the president of the university and anyone under him who allowed this to happen

you guys seem to be overlooking that fact. the president of the university allowed this to happen. he is the highest power at that school so anyone under him will feel the effects. Maybe next time the board of directors wont hire a staff of scum bag pieces of shit.

The employees of the university and citizens of College Station didn't select the president of the university. The board of regents did that and they are old rich white men that will feel zero financial impact of the penalties.

 

[svetz17]

also....i am sick and tired of reading people say that everyone involved has been punished. BULLSHIT they have...that school hasnt been punished...sure the individuals have been punished or will be punished or have died....but that school is also culpable for the crimes that took place.

The school empowered the highest of authority to empower staff and coaches to hide the fact they had a man raping children for years. It starts with the school.....the ncaa punishment is a good start, but not and end

The point I have been trying to make all along. The school should be punished. This is what I have been trying to say that has fallen on deaf ears. Probably because of puncuation. Maybe it is because I am trying to defend the football program, while making my " punish the administration " point.

 

[SethMode]

i dont see a witch hunt against the people with no knowledge. they are going to feel the effects. But dont blame the punishers for the effects they will feel...blame the president of the university and anyone under him who allowed this to happen

you guys seem to be overlooking that fact. the president of the university allowed this to happen. he is the highest power at that school so anyone under him will feel the effects. Maybe next time the board of directors wont hire a staff of scum bag pieces of shit.

There are tremendously HUGE variations of degrees of "feel the effects". Saying that professors, students, janitors, IT guys, lunch ladies, so on and so forth, should feel any effect other than shock that their president would do that, is absurd. You're making it sound like some punishment should be levied against them because of what some schmuck did, just because that schmuck was president. If those dolling out the punishment make one that heinously hurts those people I mentioned, then yes, I will blame them. I've already blamed the president after all, and a UNITED STATES COURT probably will as well.

 

[JeremyHight]

People for some reason are bitching that "The NCAA is punishing people who weren't involved", but isn't that the case with every investigation into compliance? Alabama got penalized for stuff from a coach they fired. USC got punished for players who weren't still there. Urban Meyer is banned from a bowl even though he hasn't coached a game, yet. This is the precedent.

Now, before you say "Oh, but thats crap". Ok, you find a way to punish a dead man and some coaches and administrators who will never get a job ever again. They were part of the university and the only way to punish a university is to do it in the present. The whole point of these punishments is to make sure universities don't do it again and others don't follow the same path. Do you really think an Ohio State coach is going to file away an email when informed of infractions? I doubt it considering now it is actually tied to compensation in Urban Meyer's contract. Do you really think another school is going to allow a coach to hide a pedophile? I doubt it considering PSU is facing a reported 30,000,000 dollar fine, along with a lot of other punishments waiting to happen. These always punish the people there currently. The NCAA takes the right approach though in saying that anyone who is graduating during that bowl ban can instantly transfer and not have to sit out a year. If they haven't used their red shirt yet, they can even just sit out a year to learn the system at a new school and join the following year. I foresee the NCAA being even more lenient and allowing everyone who transfers an extra year of eligibility since it is so close to the season.

As for the community, the fans, the store owners, and everyone else involved. They shouldn't blame the NCAA. They should blame the university. If they end up losing their house because they don't bring in the dough on Saturdays, that isn't the NCAA's fault, that is the universities fault. Ya, plenty of people will be impacted, but their pain seems pretty light in comparison to what the university allowed those victims to go through. If those people never support Penn State again, they will be better for it.

 

[Atlas]

People for some reason are bitching that "The NCAA is punishing people who weren't involved", but isn't that the case with every investigation into compliance? Alabama got penalized for stuff from a coach they fired. USC got punished for players who weren't still there. Urban Meyer is banned from a bowl even though he hasn't coached a game, yet. This is the precedent.

Now, before you say "Oh, but thats crap". Ok, you find a way to punish a dead man and some coaches and administrators who will never get a job ever again. They were part of the university and the only way to punish a university is to do it in the present. The whole point of these punishments is to make sure universities don't do it again and others don't follow the same path. Do you really think an Ohio State coach is going to file away an email when informed of infractions? I doubt it considering now it is actually tied to compensation in Urban Meyer's contract. Do you really think another school is going to allow a coach to hide a pedophile? I doubt it considering PSU is facing a reported 30,000,000 dollar fine, along with a lot of other punishments waiting to happen. These always punish the people there currently. The NCAA takes the right approach though in saying that anyone who is graduating during that bowl ban can instantly transfer and not have to sit out a year. If they haven't used their red shirt yet, they can even just sit out a year to learn the system at a new school and join the following year. I foresee the NCAA being even more lenient and allowing everyone who transfers an extra year of eligibility since it is so close to the season.

As for the community, the fans, the store owners, and everyone else involved. They shouldn't blame the NCAA. They should blame the university. If they end up losing their house because they don't bring in the dough on Saturdays, that isn't the NCAA's fault, that is the universities fault. Ya, plenty of people will be impacted, but their pain seems pretty light in comparison to what the university allowed those victims to go through. If those people never support Penn State again, they will be better for it.

this situation is wholly different than any of the ones you mentioned in your post, and therefore, must be treated as such...

 

[svetz17]

this situation is wholly different than any of the ones you mentioned in your post, and therefore, must be treated as such...

Nothing can compare to this situation. This is the biggest sports scandal since the Black Sox 1919