PSU Penalties: $60 Mil Fine, 4-Year Bowl Ban, 40 Schollies Over 4 Years, Wins Vacated

[Bomberooski]

Yes and it means there will forever be an asterisk there because he actually isn't the all time wins leader. It's asinine to vacate that many wins because those games still happened.

Don't worry, Mike Leach will be there soon with WSU. :shifty:

 

[packersfan4eva]

According to Yahoo, it's 20 scholarships per year for the next four years.

Holy fuck. Pretty soon, Indiana won't be the worst team in the Big 10 :smug:

 

[FirstTimer]

Ray cited the Sandusky criminal investigation and the recently released Freeh Commission report as reasons for the NCAA actions. Ray noted that Penn State commissioned the Freeh report and agreed with the findings.



The $60 million fine, which Emmert said equaled one year of gross revenue from the football team, will be used to establish an endowment to help child sexual abuse victims.

Penn State will be banned from the postseason for four years, which includes the Big Ten championship game and any bowl appearance. Initial scholarships have been reduced to 15 from 25 for four years; that means Penn State can sign just 15 recruits a year for four years. In addition, any player can transfer immediately without sitting out.

Emmert said Penn State has signed a consent decree in regard to the penalties, and he said the NCAA will work with Penn State to make sure the school implements the procedures called for by the NCAA.
Sandusky, a former Penn State defensive coordinator, was convicted of 45 counts of child molestation and is awaiting sentencing.

 

[svetz17]

According to Yahoo, it's 20 scholarships per year for the next four years.

Holy fuck. Pretty soon, Indiana won't be the worst team in the Big 10 :smug:

emmert said limit of 15 scholarships per year so 40 lost scholarships- 4 years.

 

[FirstTimer]

According to Yahoo, it's 20 scholarships per year for the next four years.

Holy fuck. Pretty soon, Indiana won't be the worst team in the Big 10 :smug:

It's actually 15.

 

[EmpireWF]

WOW....lol @ taking away all the wins.

 

[Len B]

Any NCAA penalty ever punishes players that had nothing to do with the issue. Yawn.

I agree, but that's not what I said. I would've been okay with a one year bowl ban which still punishes players unfairly. However, four years? That's telling a freshman he'll never play in a post season game if he doesn't have the option to go to a new school.

It is the dealth penalty.

 

[FirstTimer]

I agree, but that's not what I said. I would've been okay with a one year bowl ban which still punishes players unfairly. However, four years? That's telling a freshman he'll never play in a post season game if he doesn't have the option to go to a new school.

Most will.

On top of that. Tough shit.

That's how these punishments work. In the grand scheme of things I could give two fucks about some player at PSU not getting to go to the Belk Bowl and get free shit.


The entire premise of this severe a punishment is the fact that football isn't bigger than child rape. If the first reaction is that "ZOMG the punishment is unfair to football players"..then well, you haven't learned a damn thing from all of this.

 

[Len B]

Cool story, bro.

Those who committed the crimes are getting theirs. You're right the crime is bigger than football, which is why it is being dealt with by the feds and the court. Gotta throw a rock at everyone just to make sure everyone gets hit, though.

 

[Matt]

Well Mike McQueary was the QB for JoePa last official win

 

[nwfisch]

I would have had no problem with them doubling or tripling the fine on Penn State...

 

[svetz17]

I agree, but that's not what I said. I would've been okay with a one year bowl ban which still punishes players unfairly. However, four years? That's telling a freshman he'll never play in a post season game if he doesn't have the option to go to a new school.

It is the dealth penalty.

Thats the biggest thing I don't agree with. It destroys our recruiting completely. Two years would be acceptable. People don't get the program is going to be awful for 8 years, and half the players will transfer watch.

 

[FirstTimer]

Cool story, bro.

Those who committed the crimes are getting theirs. You're right the crime is bigger than football, which is why it is being dealt with by the feds and the court. Gotta throw a rock at everyone just to make sure everyone gets hit, though.

:lol:

Yeah which is why the university is getting fined 60 million dollars not to mention the massive number of NCAA compliance issues that this case has. So yeah, it's a criminal case..it's also a case where the NCAA has a massive amount of weight because of the laundry list of compliance issues involved.

Have fun with your head in the sand though.

 

[JeremyHight]

I have zero issue with these punishments. If a player felt betrayed by JoePa or the university through this process, they can transfer to another school immediately and not have to sit out a year. If a player wants to compete in the post-season, they can without counting against their new team's scholarship total. If a player wants to stay at Penn State, but no longer play for a tarnished program, they can stay on scholarship. On the other hand, if they want to stick it out and play for PSU, I'm sure they will be welcomed back with open arms.

I don't see how anyone can complain about these punishments in terms of innocent parties being impacted other than maybe the business owners surrounding the university. There will still be 50k+ people at the stadium every week, just not the 100k+ average from years prior.

Also, historically speaking, the amount of transfers is always far less than expected. Most of the time, the transfers are small since players don't want to move completely to a new school. Transfers won't nearly be as bad as the impact on recruiting.

 

[svetz17]

Well Mike McQueary was the QB for JoePa last official win

fuck Mcqueery.

 

[ralaw]

Most will.

On top of that. Tough shit.

That's how these punishments work. In the grand scheme of things I could give two fucks about some player at PSU not getting to go to the Belk Bowl and get free shit.


The entire premise of this severe a punishment is the fact that football isn't bigger than child rape. If the first reaction is that "ZOMG the punishment is unfair to football players"..then well, you haven't learned a damn thing from all of this.

I really don't understand why people are crying about the current players or recruits as if this sort of thing has never happened. Was Matt Barkley a part of what Reggie Bush did? I don't understand people's thinking. As my father use to say, "people are complaining just to hear themselves complain."

 

[FirstTimer]

Well Mike McQueary was the QB for JoePa last official win

Srs?

:lol:

 

[svetz17]

I really don't understand why people are crying about the current players or recruits as if this sort of thing has never happened. Was Matt Barkley a part of what Reggie Bush did? I don't understand people's thinking. As my father use to say, "people are complaining just to hear themselves complain."

Matt Barkley gets a chance to win the title this year. USC arguablly has the best team. Not a fair arguement, penn state players if they stay will never play post season ball. Two years would have been good.

 

[shag773]

If the first reaction is that "ZOMG the punishment is unfair to football players"..then well, you haven't learned a damn thing from all of this.

If this isn't the pot calling the kettle black...the fact that there is so much interest in how the program should be punished already shows me no one learned a damn thing.

Hopefully the victims and their families can take solace in the fact that everyone feels justice was served because psu can't go to a bowl game for 4 years.

 

[Len B]

:lol:

Yeah which is why the university is getting fined 60 million dollars not to mention the massive number of NCAA compliance issues that this case has. So yeah, it's a criminal case..it's also a case where the NCAA has a massive amount of weight because of the laundry list of compliance issues involved.

Have fun with your head in the sand though.

Find where I said no punishment. I already dealt with your black/white general way of living, woodshed boy. No need to fuel your erection you get from arguing with people. Have fun continuing this thread.