'Redskins' stripped of trademarks

[ThomasTomasz]

I agree with your post but for the love of god can you stop calling them Indians. I haven't called them that since I was 5.

The potato joke had me :dead:

The man criticized Mike Nolan for having vanilla defensive schemes. On two occasions following a loss, Nolan returned to his office to half-melted gallons of ice cream- 31 to be exact, non vanilla- with notes on them to Nolan stating "This is what I like, not vanilla" and "I wasn't joking, I do not like vanilla." I would not put it past him to change the logo to a potato before changing the name.

 

[ram29jackson]

Seattle news paper says they wont use Redskins anymore or this individual wont or what ever

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/take2...g-the-redskins-nickname-in-the-seattle-times/

a comment below article lol

tnesmith
40 minutes ago
I was at the Little Big Horn monument last summer. Along with a memorial for the U.S. Army soldiers who died... was a memorial for the Native Americans who died. One name stuck out... "Chased by Owls". I burst out laughing, then almost fainted trying to get my breath. Then I felt really, really sorry for the poor guy with the painfully embarrassing name.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I agree with your post but for the love of god can you stop calling them Indians. I haven't called them that since I was 5.

The potato joke had me :dead:

I don't conform with that nonsense. Black people are black, and American Indians are indians.

If somebody ever called me an "Italian-American" to my face, i'm not even sure how I would react. I'm a fucking white guy. If you want to know my ethnicity, I'll just tell you Italian. I don't need the uppity hyphen.

That bullshit is for newscasters and people afraid of their own shadow. I'm a normal human being, so I talk like one.

 

[Aso]

I don't conform with that nonsense. Black people are black, and American Indians are indians.

If somebody ever called me an "Italian-American" to my face, i'm not even sure how I would react. I'm a fucking white guy. If you want to know my ethnicity, I'll just tell you Italian. I don't need the uppity hyphen.

That bullshit is for newscasters and people afraid of their own shadow. I'm a normal human being, so I talk like one.

But... Indians are from India. I don't even see it as being PC, it's just inherently wrong. Calling Native Americans Indians is like calling someone from the middle east a Mexican.

 

[SethMode]

I don't conform with that nonsense. Black people are black, and American Indians are indians.

If somebody ever called me an "Italian-American" to my face, i'm not even sure how I would react. I'm a fucking white guy. If you want to know my ethnicity, I'll just tell you Italian. I don't need the uppity hyphen.

That bullshit is for newscasters and people afraid of their own shadow. I'm a normal human being, so I talk like one.

This statement would honestly make more sense if you said that you call them brown people.

 

[Senser81]

But... Indians are from India. I don't even see it as being PC, it's just inherently wrong. Calling Native Americans Indians is like calling someone from the middle east a Mexican.

The term "Native American" is even more retarded than the term "Indian", FWIW. At least Columbus made an honest mistake.

 

[Steel Mamba]

Shouldn't Vikings be just as offensive as Redskins?

Honest question. Shouldn't those two be on the same level. Why no outrage over the Vikings name.

http://www.rsdb.org/race/norwegians

Viking is in no way used as a slur or derogatory term in modern society.

 

[Steel Mamba]

But... Indians are from India. I don't even see it as being PC, it's just inherently wrong. Calling Native Americans Indians is like calling someone from the middle east a Mexican.

So one word can't have multiple definitions now? Time to throw out every word in our language.

 

[SethMode]

So one word can't have multiple definitions now? Time to throw out every word in our language.

This doesn't really make any sense.

 

[Diivox]

White people telling non white people what they should or shouldn't be offended by.

White privilege at it's finest.

By the way, when you use the term "white guilt", you come off as racist as the team name. "white guilt" is a derogatory term thrown around by people who are at least a little bit racist to justify their racism. "oh, I'm not less racist than I should be, because fuck white guilt".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY&feature=kp

It's not politically correctness, it's social acceptability. Ya'll are two steps shy of drunk uncle at thanksgiving with this "tradition" bullshit. Fuck tradition. The team that plays America's number one sport in it's nations capitol shouldn't be clinging to a term that some people clearly find to be racist. there is no argument that many people find it to be racist, whether you agree or not.

Heh, and this whole, "OH NO WE MIGHT HAVE TO CHANGE OTHER TEAM LOGO's too!" is some bullshit too. http://gawker.com/the-terrifying-domino-theory-of-anti-racism-1583198843 - "is that what you want America? Less Racism?" Yeah, actually, that sounds pretty awesome to me.

http://www.ncai.org/

^^^^not white people. Largest and most representative American Indian group in North America.

Of course there are going to be Native American's who don't care about the usage of the name, you can't just assign one viewpoint to an entire ethnic group, because that's racist.

 

[Senser81]

If you don't think that white people have done some pretty terrible things to non-white people you don't know your history.


you can't just assign one viewpoint to an entire ethnic group, because that's racist.

Good stuff here.

 

[Diivox]

Good stuff here.

You're right, fixed.

R******* is still a racist name.

 

[SethMode]

R******* is still a racist name.

Well, congrats, you somehow found something more annoying than people saying "the 'N' word".

 

[Diivox]

Well, congrats, you somehow found something more annoying than people saying "the 'N' word".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Ad hominem does not make the team name less racist.

 

[Steel Mamba]

This doesn't really make any sense.

I don't see what's wrong with the word Indian referring to two different sets of people. What's inherently wrong with a word having multiple definitions?

 

[SethMode]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Ad hominem does not make the team name less racist.

And typing out R******* instead of just saying Redskins in a discussion about the word Redskins is about as dumb and pointless as it gets. It dilutes the discussion, and it's also stupid.

 

[SethMode]

I don't see what's wrong with the word Indian referring to two different sets of people. What's inherently wrong with a word having multiple definitions?

Nothing is inherently wrong with it, per se. But in this case, the word Indian is predicated on a mistake made by Columbus that everyone that finished elementary school knows about. At that point, people are just using the wrong word. Like say, people that use ain't, despite knowing it's not a word, because it's now recognized in the dictionary.

 

[Diivox]

And typing out R******* instead of just saying Redskins in a discussion about the word Redskins is about as dumb and pointless as it gets. It dilutes the discussion, and it's also stupid.

Only if the point of discussion is completely indefensible, which, in this case it is.

I responded to the major arguments that people make in support of the name, so fuck your strawman.

 

[Diivox]

what momentum ? gossip and short articles on the internet don't mean crap.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/d...tter-to-pete-rozelle-about-the-redskins-name/

40 years of momentum.

 

[SethMode]

Only if the point of discussion is completely indefensible, which, in this case it is.

I responded to the major arguments that people make in support of the name, so fuck your strawman.

WTF are you talking about? Are you high? I didn't even make an argument one way or the other about the offensiveness of the name. In fact, all I've said in the thread is that they should just change it, because no one that is mad about the change will actively care in a meaningful way.

I just take issue with someone going out of their way to censor the word in a discussion about the word for no conceivable reason. Are you concerned that someone is going to enter a thread about the Redskins, see that you typed out Redskins, and be offended?