Rumor: Pitt Joining the Big Ten

[Pitty]

Legit?

As legit as can be at this point.

 

[Sven Draconian]

You do realize Pitt has 2 winning seasons in the past 5 years? Right? Saying they are going to be 5-7 in the Big 10 every year is like saying their mascot is the Panthers. They're a 5-7 program.

 

[jHammack]

I'm kind of up in the air.. I don't want to leave the Big East because Big East Basketball is great.. But on the other hand, I really want Pitt and Penn State rivalry back and I don't want to be stuck in the Big East after another team(s) get raided...


It's kind of a shitty position to be in.

 

[jHammack]

You do realize Pitt has 2 winning seasons in the past 5 years? Right? Saying they are going to be 5-7 in the Big 10 every year is like saying their mascot is the Panthers. They're a 5-7 program.

Let me explain to you how Pitt football was left after Walt Harris bolted to Stanford. Pitt had absolutely no talent on the team. They had no offensive line, no defensive line, and barely any play makers.

Enter Dave Wannstedt. Excellent recruiter and stacked our offensive/defensive lines. We have great depth there now. '05, '06, '07 were re-building years. Wannstedt literally had to start from the ground up. In 05 we won 5 games, in 06 we won 6 games. In 07, I thought we would be decent, but we just weren't quite there yet. We only won 5 games, but we beat WVU which made it a tolerable season. Finally with Wannstedt having a full team with his players, we won 9 games and then 10 the year after that with a bowl game win.

The re-building era for Wannstedt is over. He's getting the players he wants each year, and the cover isn't bare like it was when Harris was here. So yes Pitt football 3 years ago would be a 5-7 team. That isn't the case anymore.

 

[Senser81]

To be official Friday.

Reliable source.

link?

Erroneous reports such as one from sports radio host Ben Maller have surfaced that claim Pittsburgh is set to join an expanded Big Ten.

Apparently, the original source was a few student-athletes at Pitt who Tweeted about a meeting during which Big Ten expansion was brought up — or, more likely, not brought up.

Bottom line, a source at the conference reiterated to the Tribune on Monday that the Big Ten will adhere to the timetable it laid out in December — a 12- to 18-month period of analysis. The league will then determine whether it wants to expand and, if so, how many schools it will invite to the party.

 

[Senser81]

Let me explain to you how Pitt football was left after Walt Harris bolted to Stanford. Pitt had absolutely no talent on the team. They had no offensive line, no defensive line, and barely any play makers.

Enter Dave Wannstedt. E

WTF are you talking about? Do you even attend Pitt?

Harris' last 5 years at Pitt were all winning seasons, and his final year at Pitt he had the Panthers going to the Fiesta Bowl.

Wannstedt inherited a BCS bowl team, and promptly had seasons of 5-6, 6-6, and 5-7. The only reason Pitt has had recent success is because of the downturn West Virginia and Rutgers, and Pitt playing a much easier schedule.

 

[FirstTimer]

Let me explain to you how Pitt football was left after Walt Harris bolted to Stanford. Pitt had absolutely no talent on the team. They had no offensive line, no defensive line, and barely any play makers.

Enter Dave Wannstedt. Excellent recruiter and stacked our offensive/defensive lines. We have great depth there now. '05, '06, '07 were re-building years. Wannstedt literally had to start from the ground up. In 05 we won 5 games, in 06 we won 6 games. In 07, I thought we would be decent, but we just weren't quite there yet. We only won 5 games, but we beat WVU which made it a tolerable season. Finally with Wannstedt having a full team with his players, we won 9 games and then 10 the year after that with a bowl game win.

The re-building era for Wannstedt is over. He's getting the players he wants each year, and the cover isn't bare like it was when Harris was here. So yes Pitt football 3 years ago would be a 5-7 team. That isn't the case anymore.

Notre Dame has more winning seasons in the past 5 years than Pitt does and has had better recruiting classes over that time.

STFU.

WTF are you talking about? Do you even attend Pitt?

Harris' last 5 years at Pitt were all winning seasons, and his final year at Pitt he had the Panthers going to the Fiesta Bowl.

Wannstedt inherited a BCS bowl team, and promptly had seasons of 5-6, 6-6, and 5-7. The only reason Pitt has had recent success is because of the downturn West Virginia and Rutgers, and Pitt playing a much easier schedule.

Oh yeah. This too.

 

[Sven Draconian]

WTF are you talking about? Do you even attend Pitt?

Harris' last 5 years at Pitt were all winning seasons, and his final year at Pitt he had the Panthers going to the Fiesta Bowl.

Wannstedt inherited a BCS bowl team, and promptly had seasons of 5-6, 6-6, and 5-7. The only reason Pitt has had recent success is because of the downturn West Virginia and Rutgers, and Pitt playing a much easier schedule.

Don't forget that USF and Connecticut got worse as well.

 

[jHammack]

No I don't attend Pitt, but Pitt has been my favorite team since I was born pretty much. Yes they went to the Fiesta Bowl. Check how that team did :smh: and MOST of that team were Juniors and Seniors. Walt DIDN'T recruit in his last two years, His recruiting classes were terrible and he didn't bring in solid players. Wannstedt inherited a BCS team that lost most of that team and didn't have players that were good enough to replace them.

And yeah you're right the only reason Pitt was good the last two years is because WVU and Rutgers weren't good. Newsflash retard, in each season Pitt lost to Rutgers or WVU. 2008 Rutgers, 2009 WVU.

2003 Walt Harris Recruiting: 34th (Rivals) 39th (Scout
2004 Walt Harris Recruiting: 48th (Rivals) 47th (Scout)

His last 2 recruiting classes were shit.

2005 Wannstedt: 42nd - Shitty, but better than Harris did the year before.
2006 Wannstedt: 11th
2007- 8th
2008- 25th
2009- 31
2010- 11th


Walt Harris did not recruit well and barely recruited at all his last two years. Which is why I said Wannstedt had to start from scratch.

 

[BUCK3YE5]

I wish it was ND

 

[jHammack]

Notre Dame has more winning seasons in the past 5 years than Pitt does and has had better recruiting classes over that time.

STFU.

I forgot, when was Notre Dame brought into the discussion? Oh yeah you can't write anything/thank anything unless it is about Notre Dame.

 

[FirstTimer]

I forgot, when was Notre Dame brought into the discussion? Oh yeah you can't write anything/thank anything unless it is about Notre Dame.

It's called a comparison. Notre Dame is coming off one of it's worst decades in team history and has still outperformed Pitt. ND is seen by many as a joke right now but has still had more success than the program you are pumping up as an 8-9 win team in the Big 10.

STFU and learn to comprehend things.

Not to mention ND has been rumored to the Big 10 for years now...so it's all relevant.

 

[Sven Draconian]

No I don't attend Pitt, but Pitt has been my favorite team since I was born pretty much. Yes they went to the Fiesta Bowl. Check how that team did :smh: and MOST of that team were Juniors and Seniors. Walt DIDN'T recruit in his last two years, His recruiting classes were terrible and he didn't bring in solid players. Wannstedt inherited a BCS team that lost most of that team and didn't have players that were good enough to replace them.

And yeah you're right the only reason Pitt was good the last two years is because WVU and Rutgers weren't good. Newsflash retard, in each season Pitt lost to Rutgers or WVU. 2008 Rutgers, 2009 WVU.

2003 Walt Harris Recruiting: 34th (Rivals) 39th (Scout
2004 Walt Harris Recruiting: 48th (Rivals) 47th (Scout)

His last 2 recruiting classes were shit.

2005 Wannstedt: 42nd - Shitty, but better than Harris did the year before.
2006 Wannstedt: 11th
2007- 8th
2008- 25th
2009- 31
2010- 11th


Walt Harris did not recruit well and barely recruited at all his last two years. Which is why I said Wannstedt had to start from scratch.

So wait.... Walt Harris finishing with two mediocre classes is worse than Wanny doing it?

 

[Senser81]

Yes they went to the Fiesta Bowl. Check how that team did :smh: and MOST of that team were Juniors and Seniors. Walt DIDN'T recruit in his last two years, His recruiting classes were terrible and he didn't bring in solid players. Wannstedt inherited a BCS team that lost most of that team and didn't have players that were good enough to replace them.

And yeah you're right the only reason Pitt was good the last two years is because WVU and Rutgers weren't good. Newsflash retard, in each season Pitt lost to Rutgers or WVU. 2008 Rutgers, 2009 WVU.

2003 Walt Harris Recruiting: 34th (Rivals) 39th (Scout
2004 Walt Harris Recruiting: 48th (Rivals) 47th (Scout)

His last 2 recruiting classes were shit.

2005 Wannstedt: 42nd - Shitty, but better than Harris did the year before.
2006 Wannstedt: 11th
2007- 8th
2008- 25th
2009- 31
2010- 11th


Walt Harris did not recruit well and barely recruited at all his last two years. Which is why I said Wannstedt had to start from scratch.

Wow...a BCS bowl team that is mostly juniors and seniors?? Has that ever happened in college football before?

Pitt also beat WVU and Rutgers the past two years.

Pitt must be the only school that measures success not by wins and bowl games, but with recruiting class rankings! Maybe they can be just like Illinois once they join the Big 10!

 

[jHammack]

The only reason Pitt has had recent success is because of the downturn West Virginia and Rutgers, and Pitt playing a much easier schedule.

Don't forget that USF and Connecticut got worse as well.

I'm going to prove your point wrong. The only team that has gotten worse over that time was WVU, and they beat us this year so I highly doubt that has any point in why Pitt has gotten better over the last two years.

UConn

'05 5-6
'06 4-8
'07 9-4
'08 8-5
'09 8-5

1 Year they were better than the last 2.


USF

'05 6-6
'06 9-4
'07 9-4
'08 8-5
'09 8-5

One game difference better really is the reason Pitt is good now? Really?


WVU

'05 11-1
'06 11-2
'07 11-2
'08 9-4
'09 9-4

WVU has gotten worse the last 2 years, however in 09 they beat Pitt, so I don't understand how they were the reason Pitt got better.

Rutgers

'05 7-5
'06 11-2
'07 8-5
'08 8-5
'09 9-4

Besides the '07 year, Rutgers has been the same throughout the last 5 years.

Not to mention, Cincinnati has gotten better each and every year, which makes the fall of WVU less meaningful.

 

[FirstTimer]

I'm going to prove your point wrong. The only team that has gotten worse over that time was WVU, and they beat us this year so I highly doubt that has any point in why Pitt has gotten better over the last two years.




Not to mention, Cincinnati has gotten better each and every year, which makes the fall of WVU less meaningful.

Notre Dame was 9-3 in 2005. They were 10-3 in 2006. No ND fan with a brain would say that the 2006 team was better. So records do not tell the entire story. To just look at the teams records as the sole indication of them being better or not is mildly retarded. The Big East overall has gotten worse over the past 3-4 years. It's not even a debate. Quit trying to defend a shit league. Cinci got better but still got pimp smacked by Florida.

 

[jHammack]

Wow...a BCS bowl team that is mostly juniors and seniors?? Has that ever happened in college football before?

Pitt also beat WVU and Rutgers the past two years.

Pitt must be the only school that measures success not by wins and bowl games, but with recruiting class rankings! Maybe they can be just like Illinois once they join the Big 10!

I didn't say I'm measuring the success by recruiting rankings. I'm saying that when Harris left, he left the team bare and Wanny had to start from scratch and that is why Pitt was down for 3 years. Now that he has been recruiting better, look at what Pitt has done. 9 and 10 win seasons. And yeah most teams that are in BCS bowls have Juniors and Seniors, but the people behind them actually have talent, where Pitt didn't have the players to replace the following year.

 

[jHammack]

Notre Dame was 9-3 in 2005. They were 10-3 in 2006. No ND fan with a brain would say that the 2006 team was better. So records do not tell the entire story. To just look at the teams records as the sole indication of them being better or not is mildly retarded. The Big East overall has gotten worse over the past 3-4 years. It's not even a debate. Quit trying to defend a shit league. Cinci got better but still got pimp smacked by Florida.

What is ND's record against the "shit" league the last two years?

 

[jHammack]

So wait.... Walt Harris finishing with two mediocre classes is worse than Wanny doing it?

Wanny didn't have two shitty classes and then leave the program with nothing. Wanny built it back up with 2 top 15 classes, and solid classes the years after. As well as having another top 15 class this year. Recruiting doesn't always equal wins, but it sure as fuck helps.

 

[Senser81]

Not to mention, Cincinnati has gotten better each and every year, which makes the fall of WVU less meaningful.

After watching Cincinnati give up TD after TD to lowly Illinois at the end of the regular season, then get COMPLETELY pulverized by Florida and making Tim Tebow look like Joe Montana (31 of 35??!!), I think Cincinnati hasn't really gotten all that much better...the Big East has gotten worse.

Just my $0.02.