Rumor: Pitt Joining the Big Ten

[jHammack]

The MWC is very good at the top and could contend in the major conferences, but the lower half of that conference is not good. But they are legitimate. And stop bringing up the assraping of Pitt by Utah.. It brings back terrible memories.

 

[Pitty]

What would the Big10 have to gain by adding Pitt? Its just another mouth to feed. They have pretty good athletics, but they weren't/aren't Penn State when it comes to football tradition. And, perhaps more importantly, Pitt doesn't have the academic prestige of most Big10 institutions.

Unless its Notre Dame, I don't see the Big10 adding another team any time soon.

Top 20 Medical School. Top 5 Philosophy Department. Top 15 in research dollars donated (#1 in 2007). Average SAT score of 1250 for Arts & Sciences, 1350 for Medical/Business.

Sorry but Pitt is better than most Big 10 schools academic wise.

 

[NAHSTE]

Also, the MWC being 2-0 all time vs. SEC in bowl games means they'd be like 100-0 vs. the Big Ten if we extrapolate the record.

 

[Sportsbuck]

Point is that you are over ranking your conference. You think much too highly of the teams than what they are. Okay how about this:

Conference recruiting Rankings:

Class of 2010:
1. SEC
2. Pac-10
3. Big 12
4. BIG TEN

2009:
1.SEC
2. Pac 10
3. ACC
4. BIG TEN

2008:
1. SEC
2. Pac 10
3. ACC
4. BIG TEN

2007:
1. SEC
2. Pac 10
3. ACC
4. Big 12
5. Big East
6. BIG TEN

2006
1. SEC
2. Pac 10
3. Big 12
4. ACC
5. BIG TEN

2005:
1. SEC
2. ACC
3. Pac 10
4. Big Ten

2004:
1. SEC
2. ACC
3. Pac 10
4 BIG TEN

2003:
1. SEC
2. ACC
3. Pac 10
4. Big 12
5. BIG TEN

2002:
1. SEC
2. Big 12
3. PAC-10
4. ACC
5. Big East
6. BIG TEN

So your argument is that the Big Ten is a bad conference because of rankings that are made purely to sell subscriptions?

 

[Woy]

Also, the MWC being 2-0 all time vs. SEC in bowl games means they'd be like 100-0 vs. the Big Ten if we extrapolate the record.

The Capital One Bowl proves that statement wrong.

Sorry NAHSTE. oops:

 

[JeremyHight]

Top 20 Medical School. Top 5 Philosophy Department. Top 15 in research dollars donated (#1 in 2007). Average SAT score of 1250 for Arts & Sciences, 1350 for Medical/Business.

Sorry but Pitt is better than most Big 10 schools academic wise.

I wouldn't say better, but definitely on par with them. Big Ten's academics are insane. According to US News & World Reports annual rankings, here are how the public universities match up...

4. Michigan
9T. Illinois
9T. Wisconsin
15. Penn State
18. Ohio State
20. Pitt
22T. Purdue
22T. Minnesota
29T. Indiana
29T. Michigan State
29T. Iowa

Northwestern is ranked 13th overall in the nation, far above any of the public universities.

 

[Pitty]

I wouldn't say better, but definitely on par with them. Big Ten's academics are insane. According to US News & World Reports annual rankings, here are how the public universities match up...

4. Michigan
9T. Illinois
9T. Wisconsin
15. Penn State
18. Ohio State
20. Pitt
22T. Purdue
22T. Minnesota
29T. Indiana
29T. Michigan State
29T. Iowa

Northwestern is ranked 13th overall in the nation, far above any of the public universities.

They're not stupid, Pitt has been raising Academic Admittance requirements drastically the past 5 years. After they lowered them in the 90's to fund construction projects, they are trying to get back to being a top level University that we were during the 60's and 70's. I mean, how many Big 10 schools can say they cured polio?

 

[Sportsbuck]

I have nothing to add right now except that the last time Ohio State played Pitt, we won 72-0 and David Boston returned a punt for a TD with only 7 blockers on the field.

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[NAHSTE]

The Capital One Bowl proves that statement wrong.

Sorry NAHSTE. oops:

SEC speed doesn't work in mulch.

Your argument is invalid.

 

[Sportsbuck]

Frankly though everything's all cylicial.

In the next 5 years when Tressel steps down, OSU will go through a down period and have to rebuild under new leadership.

If/when the RichRod experiment ends, Michigan will find a new coach and likely rise back up to the top in the conference (And there's also if RichRod has success too).

Penn State is a squad that competes for Big Ten titles when they have experience on the lines... so every 2 years pretty much they are going to be in the thick of the race (And they still are competing well without experience).

Meanwhile, beyond that you've got the next tier of teams in the B10. Wisconsin has been a team that almost since Alvarez was hired that has been very consistent. They'll be an 8-9 win program consisently and have a year or two where they rise up and win 10-11 games and compete for the conference title. The same could be said for Iowa, and Ferentz is one of the best line coaches in the country. Beyond that, there's usually another team (Illinois, Minny, Michigan State, etc.) that settles in and becomes a thorn in the rest of the B10's side.

If they do indeed come to the B10 I see Pitt developing right into the the second tier.. able to compete solidly when they don't have the experience, and then competing for the conference title when they have the right team.

 

[jHammack]

1996 :smh:

 

[jHammack]

Frankly though everything's all cylicial.

In the next 5 years when Tressel steps down, OSU will go through a down period and have to rebuild under new leadership.

If/when the RichRod experiment ends, Michigan will find a new coach and likely rise back up to the top in the conference (And there's also if RichRod has success too).

Penn State is a squad that competes for Big Ten titles when they have experience on the lines... so every 2 years pretty much they are going to be in the thick of the race (And they still are competing well without experience).

Meanwhile, beyond that you've got the next tier of teams in the B10. Wisconsin has been a team that almost since Alvarez was hired that has been very consistent. They'll be an 8-9 win program consisently and have a year or two where they rise up and win 10-11 games and compete for the conference title. The same could be said for Iowa, and Ferentz is one of the best line coaches in the country. Beyond that, there's usually another team (Illinois, Minny, Michigan State, etc.) that settles in and becomes a thorn in the rest of the B10's side.

If they do indeed come to the B10 I see Pitt developing right into the the second tier.. able to compete solidly when they don't have the experience, and then competing for the conference title when they have the right team.

Finally, a rational post that doesn't say Pitt will be 5-7 in the Big 10 every year.

 

[Sportsbuck]

Looks like Pitt is denying the story.

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...-it-will-leave-the-big-east-for-the-big-ten/1

Oh well, this thread brought the lulz a few times, so it was worth it.

 

[Apocalypse]

hmmmm :yep:

 

[nesper]

They're not stupid, Pitt has been raising Academic Admittance requirements drastically the past 5 years. After they lowered them in the 90's to fund construction projects, they are trying to get back to being a top level University that we were during the 60's and 70's. I mean, how many Big 10 schools can say they cured polio?

fuck clearly Pitt as an academic institution is in a league of its own, take that harvard, yale, MIT you didnt cure polio!

i'm not mocking pitt curing polio, im mocking your homerism.

 

[Pitty]

fuck clearly Pitt as an academic institution is in a league of its own, take that harvard, yale, MIT you didnt cure polio!

i'm not mocking pitt curing polio, im mocking your homerism.

It was sarcasm. Jesus how can you try to employ sarcasm when you miss it staring you blindly in the face?

 

[Vinsane]

It was sarcasm. Jesus how can you try to employ sarcasm when you miss it staring you blindly in the face?

Some people need the sarcasm tags.

Finally, a rational post that doesn't say Pitt will be 5-7 in the Big 10 every year.

6-6 is still respectable :shifty:

Why don't you watch some regular season college football for fuck's sake, and you'll know that the MWC has butt raped the Pac-10 recently. Or are you too busy actually getting butt raped?

Hmm, figured that Bowl games would better represent the "Cream" of all the conferences, rather then beating up on bottom feeders, no?

Or are you too busy actually getting butt raped?

You should be careful with that joke, it's an antique.

 

[Senser81]

Top 20 Medical School. Top 5 Philosophy Department. Top 15 in research dollars donated (#1 in 2007). Average SAT score of 1250 for Arts & Sciences, 1350 for Medical/Business.

Sorry but Pitt is better than most Big 10 schools academic wise.

No, sorry, but Pitt doesn't have the academic prestige of most Big10 institutions.

:applause:

 

[Pitty]

To be official Friday.

Reliable source.

 

[jHammack]

To be official Friday.

Reliable source.

Legit?