Soccer (Fútbol) Random Thoughts Thread

[calgaryballer]

Menez refused to come on as PSG drew 0-0 with Ajaccio at Parc De Prince. Fail.

Lucas Moura made his debut though

 

[Anthony]

So for my Scottish friend. How do you like the changes? Shit show? Progress? I dont know what to make of it

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Fucking terrible idea considering Rangers are 17 points clear at the top of the league and the new changes would still see them playing in the bottom league and not earn promotion.

 

[Anthony]

How does it go? Cutting off your face to spite your nose?

 

[1ke]

mg:

 

[1ke]

Nothing like a fucking bycicle kick from the 18 in a 5-4 game. Bless you, bless your hearts Bundesliga.

 

[Anthony]

So media are starting to get on the Chelsea fans a bit lately. They're wondering if Chelsea's home form, considering their away form, is a result of the negativity brought to stadium by the fans towards Rafa. Interesting theory. They're also questioning if Chelsea can really draw a big name following Rafa. What manager is going to walk into that situation where you apparently have little say in transfers and are going to possibly be fired even if you win the Champions League.

 

[1ke]

So Ajax got fined 10,000 for these. Dont know why.....Lol

 

[Anthony]

So Ajax got fined 10,000 for these. Dont know why.....Lol

Brilliant.

 

[kyhadley]

So media are starting to get on the Chelsea fans a bit lately. They're wondering if Chelsea's home form, considering their away form, is a result of the negativity brought to stadium by the fans towards Rafa. Interesting theory. They're also questioning if Chelsea can really draw a big name following Rafa. What manager is going to walk into that situation where you apparently have little say in transfers and are going to possibly be fired even if you win the Champions League.

Some guy on r/chelseafc responding to a thread regarding the home support:

Oh dear, you've fallen for the media bullhshit that we're failing at home because of the atmosphere. I call it bullshit cos that't what it is, total and utter bullshit.

We lost to Swansea because of two freakish errors and we had a terrible striker up front. We had more chances with Ba on for 10 minutes than we did with Torres for 80.

We lost to QPR cos we dropped our best players, the manager made his subs too late and they got lucky with a scuffed shot which Cech may well have saved if he'd been fit.

Drawing with City is not a bad result. We drew with Southampton because Rafa failed to make a change when the game had obviously changed and we paid the price. The players are at fault as well for poor defending. It was nothing to do with the fans. None of it is. Stop talking shit.

The booing is at the end - something after the final whistle doesn't affect the result. I fail to see how fans making a noise for Frank is going to depress the team, that's just silly. Players are concentrating on the game, they do not pay attention to the lyrics of chants, and as most are foreign they generally wouldn't understand them anyway. In any interview with players they always say they don't notice specific chants when they're on the pitch.

Also the atmosphere is nothing like you seem to think it is. Yes there's been booing of Torres, but boo or cheer he's always been shit so it's not really an issue. Standing and clapping in the sixteenth minute is hardly going to traumatise the team so they're unable to play anymore. Chanting for Di Matteo has been limited to the 16 min thing and the end when there's not time left. The fans are not a factor.

There is also the fact that our away support is ALWAYS louder and more aggressive than our home support.

Plus we score the most when we are counterattacking which lends itself to being better on the road as the opposing team goes for it rather than at home where the opposing team sits back.


As far as the manager thing goes, I agree it's gonna be tough to get a big name in, but money talks. Also there are so incredibly few managers in football that have a say over transfers these days with how often managers change. It's becoming far more like american sports with the GM/coach situation. I'd say only Moyes, Wenger, and Ferguson have it in the premier league.

The Chelsea manager hasn't been picking players since Mou left.

 

[Anthony]

Some guy on r/chelseafc responding to a thread regarding the home support:




There is also the fact that our away support is ALWAYS louder and more aggressive than our home support.

Plus we score the most when we are counterattacking which lends itself to being better on the road as the opposing team goes for it rather than at home where the opposing team sits back.


As far as the manager thing goes, I agree it's gonna be tough to get a big name in, but money talks. Also there are so incredibly few managers in football that have a say over transfers these days with how often managers change. It's becoming far more like american sports with the GM/coach situation. I'd say only Moyes, Wenger, and Ferguson have it in the premier league.

The Chelsea manager hasn't been picking players since Mou left.

I agree with most that you said, except for the bit about managers not having their say in transfers. You can't really name many clubs in England that have the same setup that Chelsea do, which is far more continental in nature. English clubs and managers abhor the idea of someone making the signings for them.

Look at Brendan Rodgers at Liverpool (who tried and failed to employ a DOF). He signed Borini how he's worked with in the past, Sturridge who he claimed he'd been trailing for a long time, singed Allen who he worked with at Swansea, and tried signing Sigurdson. Hell even Mark Hughes had free reign of transfers at Fulham and QPR, while 'Arry was pulling in every player he could get his hands on with Spurs and looks to be doing the same thing with QPR now. Laudrup is bringing in every Spanish player he knows of from his time there.

It's to the point where I think if Chelsea do want a big name manager they'll have to give him more say in transfers, but then again, if their recruitment is right with regards to players, then big name manager isn't really needed. Just one who can manage a team.

 

[kyhadley]

Look at Brendan Rodgers at Liverpool (who tried and failed to employ a DOF). He signed Borini how he's worked with in the past, Sturridge who he claimed he'd been trailing for a long time, singed Allen who he worked with at Swansea, and tried signing Sigurdson. Hell even Mark Hughes had free reign of transfers at Fulham and QPR, while 'Arry was pulling in every player he could get his hands on with Spurs and looks to be doing the same thing with QPR now. Laudrup is bringing in every Spanish player he knows of from his time there.

It's to the point where I think if Chelsea do want a big name manager they'll have to give him more say in transfers, but then again, if their recruitment is right with regards to players, then big name manager isn't really needed. Just one who can manage a team.

Fair enough, but I do think things are trending the way of more teams having a "GM" role, especially the smaller clubs. I don't think it makes sense to have decisions with long-term ramifications being made by a manager that might not be there for more than 1 or 2 transfer windows. I mean Mark Hughes is a good example of how free reign can go wrong.

 

[Anthony]

Fair enough, but I do think things are trending the way of more teams having a "GM" role, especially the smaller clubs. I don't think it makes sense to have decisions with long-term ramifications being made by a manager that might not be there for more than 1 or 2 transfer windows. I mean Mark Hughes is a good example of how free reign can go wrong.

Oh I agree fully. You should read Soccernomics if you haven't already. It talks about this quite a bit.

 

[kyhadley]

Oh I agree fully. You should read Soccernomics if you haven't already. It talks about this quite a bit.

Yup I have indeed. So many dumb/misinformed opinions would be eradicated from the sport if everyone was forced to read Soccernomics.

 

[kyhadley]

Paul Pogba has scored two superb long goals.

Here's the first:

and the second: http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/paul-pogba-2-juventus-v-udinese/

 

[Chrispy]

Altidore with a hat trick today

http://www.101greatgoals.com/players/jozy-altidore/

Love how the fans sing "Born in the USA" :rofl:

 

[1ke]

Fuck Pogba so hard in his fucking cunt face that fucking fucker. Fuck him fuck him fuck him. :cj2k:

 

[Anthony]

Fuck Pogba so hard in his fucking cunt face that fucking fucker. Fuck him fuck him fuck him. :cj2k:

:dance:

 

[1ke]

Lol :yao:

Good for him though......the cunt.

 

[1ke]

More fun things from the football crazy world.

Olympiacos FC have dismissed coach Leonardo Jardim, with his assistant Antonis Nikopolidis taking temporary charge for the Greek Super League match at home to PAS Giannina FC on Sunday.

Jardim, formerly of SC Braga, filled the vacancy left by Ernesto Valverde in June, but has lasted just six months of his two-year contract. Nikopolidis inherits a side unbeaten in the league and ten points clear of PAOK FC at the summit.

One of the heroes of Greece's unexpected UEFA EURO 2004 triumph, former goalkeeper Nikopolidis retired 18 months ago and is poised to make his coaching debut.

Olympaicos, who finished third behind FC Schalke 04 and Arsenal FC in UEFA Champions League Group B, face Levante UD in the UEFA Europa League round of 32 on 14 and 21 February. Should they progress, a last-16 tie against either Club Atlético de Madrid or FC Rubin Kazan awaits

10 Points clear, unbeaten in the league and axed.

 

[BigHouseUSA]

Not the first time Olympiacos have done that, they fired Ketsbaia after six games and five wins because he played for AEK.