Sorry Kevin Kolb, but Mike Vick just stole your job.

[SethMode]

The Lions dropped 3 INTs vs him on balls they were terribly thrown and the Lions missed 5 more sacks because they don't know how to tackle. If he plays a half decent defense, hes going to get ripped apart.

Also, they were 4 shitty plays away from potentially winning despite all of that, which I personally think would have the media machine working a little differently.

This situation is what it is: Reid got much less rope for his second "project". When Vick came in and did well, that rope was basically ended. He's now stuck falling on the sword for management and has lost his "guy".

I'll say again, while I'm not a Kolb guy, he still only got one half of football to play, and honestly even worse than that, because they were running that retarded two headed monster QB thing they were doing. So much for any rhythm or consistency there.

 

[ram29jackson]

The Eagles had no offensive line while the Lions defensive line is really pretty good. Vick was able to get sacked only six times I believe and yet he ended the game with a QB rating of 108 while also rushing for an additional 37 yards. He had a great, not good game.

Vick is a better QB than he ever was in Atlanta.

and that still wont amount to crap for the Eagles in the long run

 

[Nukleopatra]

The Eagles had no offensive line while the Lions defensive line is really pretty good. Vick was able to get sacked only six times I believe and yet he ended the game with a QB rating of 108 while also rushing for an additional 37 yards. He had a great, not good game.

Vick is a better QB than he ever was in Atlanta.

Dude, you're seriously fucking retarded.

Just throwing it out there.

 

[Point Blank]

SMART move by Andy Reid.

Pissed we have to face that mfer in a couple weeks though, :rofl:

 

[Point Blank]

The Eagles had no offensive line while the Lions defensive line is really pretty good. Vick was able to get sacked only six times I believe and yet he ended the game with a QB rating of 108 while also rushing for an additional 37 yards. He had a great, not good game.

Vick is a better QB than he ever was in Atlanta.

Lolwut?

 

[SethMode]

Vick is a better QB than he ever was in Atlanta.

People keep saying this shit. It's absolutely absurd. He has played 6 quarters, 2 of which when he wasn't the starting QB gameplanned for. Can we at LEAST wait a few more games before we start popping off with ludicrous comments like this?

 

[mobbdeep1122]

lol @ mike vick hating. whats mobb gonna be saying if vick brings them 5 in a row? Vick is a proven QB and never really had the weapons he has now in ATL. I am excited to see what he can do.

I'm hating more on Reid than Vick. I already said that Vick is the better QB at this point and gives us a better chance to win now, but that still doesn't mean this team is a legit contender. If you believe that they are, you're retarted.

My beef is Reid giving up on his guy so quickly after everything he gave up to make him the starter. The whole situation is a joke.

 

[Blade]

1) I said it last year and for the last 5 years, we will never win a superbowl with Fat Fuck in charge.
2) I knew Fat Fuck was smoke and mirrors when he traded away McNabb and said Kolb was the QB of the future.
3) I told everyone I knew Kolb sucks balls, and is no better than a backup out there.
4) Fat Fuck made this move because I bet he was pressured by ownership. I predict at the end of this year Fat Fuck will lose his GM title ala Holmgren with the Seahawks and we will have a chance at the NFC wild card.
5) If step 4 doesn't happen, Fat Fuck and his court of village idiots will be fired for a new staff.
6) God I hope Step 5 happens.
7) I hope McNabb sweeps us this year and keeps beatin the crap out of us for the coming years.
8) Oh and my birthday's on the 23rd, this is such an awesome birthday present for me
I don't make fun of fat people at except when they are utter morons like Chiango(J/k buddy) But guys like Andy Reid are a waste of space, literally and figuratively. The Fatass needs to go back to where he came from and make sure his criminal kids aren't a burden on the tax payers anymore.

 

[dave]

I think Philadelphians are way too hard on Reid, just like they were McNabb.

There are about 27 or 28 NFL teams that would take a coach with this record of achievement: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/ReidAn0.htm

Philadelphia fans (the ones who live there) sound like they want to kill babies whenever they describe anything sports related.

They ran McNabb out of town and are trying to do the same with Reid.

Other than Belichick, show me a coach in the 32 out there now with a better record than Andy Reid.

 

[ram29jackson]

I think Philadelphians are way too hard on Reid, just like they were McNabb.

There are about 27 or 28 NFL teams that would take a coach with this record of achievement: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/ReidAn0.htm

Philadelphia fans (the ones who live there) sound like they want to kill babies whenever they describe anything sports related.

They ran McNabb out of town and are trying to do the same with Reid.

Other than Belichick, show me a coach in the 32 out there now with a better record than Andy Reid.

well, yes, but over time its evident that the coach isnt getting you over the hump.
Chuck Knox had a great win/ loss percentage career but never won the important/ big ones. Its been the same with Reid.
Philadelphia is sick of getting near the top and than not finishing. reid has to take some blame for that.

 

[MrBill]

I picked up Vick last week in all 3 of my fantasy leagues. It was a great pickup for one week but fantasy gold if he is the starter the rest of the season!

 

[dave]

well, yes, but over time its evident that the coach isnt getting you over the hump.
Chuck Knox had a great win/ loss percentage career but never won the important/ big ones. Its been the same with Reid.
Philadelphia is sick of getting near the top and than not finishing. reid has to take some blame for that.

OK.
Of all the available coaches out there - who is better than Reid?
Maybe Bill Cowher - but that would be a huge change in philosophy on O and D.

 

[Point Blank]

I picked up Vick last week in all 3 of my fantasy leagues. It was a great pickup for one week but fantasy gold if he is the starter the rest of the season!

Glad I grabbed him last week! Just dropped Kolb.

 

[ram29jackson]

OK.
Of all the available coaches out there - who is better than Reid?
Maybe Bill Cowher - but that would be a huge change in philosophy on O and D.

thats neither here nor there.

for all the good he has done, he hasnt lead them to the biggest win.

other coaches have done it in 3 years. He has had 10 years with very good teams and never done it.

i'm not saying he sucks of course. This just proves how tough it really is to cross that barrier ans some guys just dont get that one or two things to go their way.

 

[Blade]

I think Philadelphians are way too hard on Reid, just like they were McNabb.

There are about 27 or 28 NFL teams that would take a coach with this record of achievement: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/ReidAn0.htm

Philadelphia fans (the ones who live there) sound like they want to kill babies whenever they describe anything sports related.

They ran McNabb out of town and are trying to do the same with Reid.

Other than Belichick, show me a coach in the 32 out there now with a better record than Andy Reid.

Don't group me in with that bunch of knucklheads. I never thought #5 was the problem. Fat Fuck got lucky when he drafted that guy, but ruined it by forcing him to bulk up and stay in the pocket. You see what the Mad Scientist did in DC? He pretty much said lose the 15-20 lbs, and go out there and just gun it. Fucking BS offense, trying to fit a shotgun QB in there, and a perfectly good shotgun QB.

Here's Fat Fuck's building a franchise template:
1) He thinks he's the greatest offensive mind ever.
2) He thinks he can grab any player with good skills and decent athleticism and force him to fit into a system that is not for that player.
3) He lucked out with McNabb, Bradley, Cole, Westbrook, Celek and Jackson. Jury's still out on Maclin IMHO. Outside of these players he has stunk it up in the draft. He can't draft a o-line or d-line, he doesn't believe in LBs drafted high and he got lucky with Jim Johnson and the Ray Rhodes DBs he had inherited Dawk-Vincent-Taylor.
4) You can't believe a word that comes out of the FO or the team. They know within the organization what the real deal is, but to outsiders they let this air of justifiable loyalty show. Dawk knew the writiing on the wall, when the insulted him out, but he has class.
5) Going back to 4, I bet McNabb pulled a Brady in a meeting after last season and said "If I don't have an extension in place by Week 1 of TC, I am holding out" They figure instead of paying #5 his full value they will save money by paying Vick a cool million and Kolb a guaranteed $10.7 over 2 seasons. That's a quarter of what McNabb would have demanded over the next say 4 seasons.
6) Its about having a winning record and keeping fans interested for Lurie, and thats pretty much what this is about. He came down and put down the law saying you start Vick or I am findin someone else to start him.

I have been hard on Reid for the last 6 years, since the Super Bowl. The players have been fine, they have actually give him the stature he's garnered. He hasn't created it like Walsh or Cowher, the guy got lucky with a few players and carried it for 8 out of 11 years, now its coming down around him like a house cards.

Fuck him.

 

[dave]

I simply don't agree with you guys and there's not much else I can write.

To give Reid all the credit is wrong. To say it's all the players is wrong.

And, really Blade, did Reid tell McNabb to get fat? Really?

He may have asked McNabb to be a more disciplined pocket passer, but I'm guessing he didn't ask McNabb to tip the Toledos at 250 or so.

Reid got lucky with a few players? Really?

 

[Blade]

I simply don't agree with you guys and there's not much else I can write.

To give Reid all the credit is wrong. To say it's all the players is wrong.

And, really Blade, did Reid tell McNabb to get fat? Really?

He may have asked McNabb to be a more disciplined pocket passer, but I'm guessing he didn't ask McNabb to tip the Toledos at 250 or so.

Reid got lucky with a few players? Really?

Forgot about Tra Thomas and Herremans(another example of throw a dart blindfolded and hope the big athlete is good)

Name me one player outside of those guys on the o-line, d-line, lbs, wrs and rbs that he has drafted with oh-look-at-me-I-am-so-shifty-I-am-moving-down-the-draft moves, that has worked out.

I will give him the D-backs, but I am still not entirely sure if those were Jim Johnson's suggestions or Reid actually drafting those guys.

If you are telling me that this guy actually drafts well, you are smoking crack or your name is actually Howard Fuckin Eskin.

And the amount of hits 5 took, back there with the shit of an offensive strategy and line he was dealing with, of course he had to bulk up. Plenty of QB's have been asked to bulk up to sustain the tackling they take from the defense, its common sense. Otherwise you will turn into the next Chris Simms.

GTFO

 

[mgoblue2290]

Just wanted to let everyone know that the age of the pocket passer is over.

 

[dave]

My biggest issue with Reid is his offensive playcalling.
But, at the end of the day, he may actually be a prophet.
In three years, 95% of NFL teams will be running a form of the spread.
I'm not saying I'm a fan, I think there should be more balance, but it is what it is.
New England and Indy essentially run Reid's O and no one is complaining.

 

[strahanfan92]

I think football fans all over this website should take a moment out of their time and just chuckle at this thread and the Eagles.