Super Bowl XLVII: San Francisco 49ers vs Baltimore Ravens

[ralaw]

I bet if his jersey wasn't held with 2 hands while taking 5+ steps, while the ball was in the air...he probably makes the catch.

Maybe, but he has to execute the play as it was designed. A great play can be killed by poor execution. Poor execution that led to holding is what killed it.

 

[JimLeavy59]

Crabtree ran into the hold and never tried to break away from Smith, if he does I'm sure he gets the call.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I can only imagine the pure outrage from the entire universe if replacement officials had worked that game and called every play exactly the same.

NFL television analysts are the dirt worst. Aside from the three week period when the replacement officials were being slightly worse than the shitty real officials, these guys not only never ever dare say a bad word about THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE, but they go one step further and bend over backwards to defend it at all costs.

 

[ralaw]

Crabtree ran into the hold and never tried to break away from Smith, if he does I'm sure he gets the call.

Thank you. This is what people are missing. People are just wired to always see everything from the offensive perspective. Crabtree was almost acting as if he didnt' even know he was getting the ball. He got sloppy.

 

[f16harm]

I am not blaming Crabtree, but he has to execute. If he does I bet he makes that catch or possibly gets the call.

Maybe, but he has to execute the play as it was designed. A great play can be killed by poor execution. Poor execution that led to holding is what killed it.

You keep blaming Crabtree for the poor outcome of the play because he "did not execute properly." I would agree with you......if he was defended LEGALLY by the DB.

Thank you. This is what people are missing. People are just wired to always see everything from the offensive perspective. Crabtree was almost acting as if he didnt' even know he was getting the ball. He got sloppy.

That's exactly it, Crabtree had a great game, but decided to mail it in and be sloppy and not try his best on the very last play of the game that could have made him a bigger hero than Santonio Holmes a few years ago. That's a perfectly good explanation.

 

[1ke]

I bet Randy would gotten to that back corner.......:tiptoe:

 

[ralaw]

I can only imagine the pure outrage from the entire universe if replacement officials had worked that game and called every play exactly the same.

NFL television analysts are the dirt worst. Aside from the three week period when the replacement officials were being slightly worse than the shitty real officials, these guys not only never ever dare say a bad word about THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE, but they go one step further and bend over backwards to defend it at all costs.

Jeff Darlington ‏@JeffDarlington
Perhaps it is appropriate, in a season that began with controversy about referees, it would ultimately end on odd pass interference no-call.

 

[killgod]

So it's Crabtree's fault he went near Smith? That wipes away his ability to get a penalty?

The length being gone to here to justify the hold is kind of silly. It won't change the outcome of the game if you admit you got away with one. Doesn't matter if Crabtree sat down on his ass for the whole play, that doesn't define what you can do on defence nor does it negate any penalties inflicted upon him. If a player executes a shitty route, it's okay to clock him in the head then?

The logic you're presenting doesn't make sense.

Nobody's putting an asterisk against this or saying it wasn't deserved (well, shouldn't be saying so), but it was a blown call 100% and I don't see how it can be argued otherwise.

 

[ralaw]

So it's Crabtree's fault he went near Smith? That wipes away his ability to get a penalty?

The length being gone to here to justify the hold is kind of silly. It won't change the outcome of the game if you admit you got away with one. Doesn't matter if Crabtree sat down on his ass for the whole play, that doesn't define what you can do on defence nor does it negate any penalties inflicted upon him. If a player executes a shitty route, it's okay to clock him in the head then?

The logic you're presenting doesn't make sense.

Nobody's putting an asterisk against this or saying it wasn't deserved (well, shouldn't be saying so), but it was a blown call 100% and I don't see how it can be argued otherwise.

I already said multiple times that there was a penalty, so I am not sure what you are talking about. However, it shouldn't be overlooked that Crabtree didn't execute as well. This is all. I think you are going a bit extreme with your exaggeration of my point.

 

[Senser81]

Maybe, but he has to execute the play as it was designed. A great play can be killed by poor execution. Poor execution that led to holding is what killed it.

I would argue the defensive PI/holding is what killed it. A great play can be killed by defensive PI/holding.

Its kind of a mixed bag with what people wanted Crabtree to do. Fake the slant...no, go to the "outside hip" (LOL)...act like the ball is coming to you...don't offensive PI...get Smith off of you...run your route better.

 

[Villain]

Thank you. This is what people are missing. People are just wired to always see everything from the offensive perspective. Crabtree was almost acting as if he didnt' even know he was getting the ball. He got sloppy.

You are agreeing with JimLeavy59. Your argument is invalid.

 

[ralaw]

I would argue the defensive PI/holding is what killed it. A great play can be killed by defensive PI/holding.

Its kind of a mixed bag with what people wanted Crabtree to do. Fake the slant...no, go to the "outside hip" (LOL)...act like the ball is coming to you...don't offensive PI...get Smith off of you...run your route better.

I'd say it was a mix of poor execution, but more so the holding call. Crabtree should have faked the slant, which would have got him to the outside hip of Jimmy Smith. Had he done that I bet he would have been in a better position to make the catch or get a call.

 

[killgod]

:kanye: is all I got left.

 

[ralaw]

:kanye: is all I got left.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

FYI

Alex Smith also has a 70% completion rate in the red zone

QBs with good accuracy and touch tend to be better red zone QBs.

Honestly...I wasn't a big fan of the calls down in the redzone. You take 10 players off the field with a fade and you need a perfect pass and route separation for it to work with two guys.

You have a good dual threat QB, get the options going out of the pistol...playaction, bootleg, give Kaepernick options down there.

 

[killgod]

When you wake up from your hangover we can revisit this and laugh about how bad you posted on this day. Not a good look with March Madness around the corner.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

There was a ton of hand play by both Smith and Crabtree...you can't call the PI on the D when the O is pushing off. In that situation though, if I am the D, I do everything in my ability to not allow the catch...if it means PI, it means PI. Live to play another down. Smith, IMO, got lucky that Crabtree was beating him up just as much.

 

[ralaw]

LiquidLarry preaching!!!

 

[FirstTimer]

Maybe, but he has to execute the play as it was designed. A great play can be killed by poor execution. Poor execution that led to holding is what killed it.

The point is the play can't be executed as designed if the player is being held. That's what the holding does. You drunk?

 

[killgod]

btw, this is how you properly defend that play without cheating (and boy we know about cheating in NE)

No holding, play the football. Baltimore cheats2win. :yep: