The General Wrestling Thread

[dave]

Hogan bombs in the arena, and in the ratings:



For perspective, Batista'a return did over 6 million viewers. And wasn't boosted by WWE Network hype.

Nobody cares about Hulk Hogan anymore. Can't use the TNA excuse. It's over.

To say no one cares about Hulk Hogan anymore is you being the indie guy. I absolutely agree Hogan is no longer a main eventer and should absolutely not get in the ring again, but to say no one cares again is ridiculous. I think the Wrestlemania host thing is perfect for him, if done properly. Hogan being a player in the WWE Network is also appropriate. Truthfully, I was never a fan of Hogan in his WWE or WCW prime, I felt he was overrated. As time goes on, I appreciate his value to the business. Heck, even Chris Jericho does. In his book Jericho says Hogan in his late 40s let Jericho call the matches in the early 2000s.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

To say no one cares about Hulk Hogan anymore is you being the indie guy. I absolutely agree Hogan is no longer a main eventer and should absolutely not get in the ring again, but to say no one cares again is ridiculous. I think the Wrestlemania host thing is perfect for him, if done properly. Hogan being a player in the WWE Network is also appropriate. Truthfully, I was never a fan of Hogan in his WWE or WCW prime, I felt he was overrated. As time goes on, I appreciate his value to the business. Heck, even Chris Jericho does. In his book Jericho says Hogan in his late 40s let Jericho call the matches in the early 2000s.

I'm the indie guy?

It's hyperbole, dave. He doesn't move the needle anymore. If you think he does, show me some evidence. I have Monday + three years of TNA that say otherwise.

 

[dave]

I'm the indie guy?

It's hyperbole, dave. He doesn't move the needle anymore. If you think he does, show me some evidence. I have Monday + three years of TNA that say otherwise.

Don't get me wrong, I don't entirely disagree with you. I agree he doesn't move the needle anymore. But he still matters. He's 60 years old (or so), I absolutely agree he doesn't move the needle, but he still matters. Bruno Sammartino doesn't move the needle either, but he matters. Either as a Wrestlemania host is ok to me. Hulk Hogan matters, even if the ratings don't change.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Don't get me wrong, I don't entirely disagree with you. I agree he doesn't move the needle anymore. But he still matters. He's 60 years old (or so), I absolutely agree he doesn't move the needle, but he still matters. Bruno Sammartino doesn't move the needle either, but he matters. Either as a Wrestlemania host is ok to me. Hulk Hogan matters, even if the ratings don't change.

I have no problem with trotting him out there for nostalgia, but what you quoted and disagreed with was me bashing his drawing ability. "Nobody cares" was hyperbole, maybe that was the disconnect. In reality RAW was up from the week before, but way below what was expected based on being the day after a PPV, network hype all day, Hogan, Undertaker, etc.

 

[dave]

I have no problem with trotting him out there for nostalgia, but what you quoted and disagreed with was me bashing his drawing ability. "Nobody cares" was hyperbole, maybe that was the disconnect. In reality RAW was up from the week before, but way below what was expected based on being the day after a PPV, network hype all day, Hogan, Undertaker, etc.

I agree with you on the ratings issue. Honestly, I don't think the WWE did enough to promote that RAW and that 104-year-old photo of The Undertaker didn't help either. IMO, both Hogan and Undertaker are nostalgia acts now ... though, to be fair, Undertaker can still work. That said, I wish they'd finally say this is it for The Undertaker. It's time to end it. I'm ok with him keeping The Streak, but it's time to end it and retire him.

 

[s@ppisgod]

Best thing Hogan could ever do for his career at this point is go away for 5 years. But he's just as big a carny as the rest of them. When someone puts a dollar on a string, he'll pop his head up. He can't help himself.

 

[dave]

Best thing Hogan could ever do for his career at this point is go away for 5 years. But he's just as big a carny as the rest of them. When someone puts a dollar on a string, he'll pop his head up. He can't help himself.

Why would he go away for 5 years? That's insane. He still looks like Hulk Hogan and can still make money. I get that he can't be in the ring anymore, but he still looks like Hulk Hogan and has nostalgia factor. And of course he goes for the cash ... he's not stupid.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Why would he go away for 5 years? That's insane. He still looks like Hulk Hogan and can still make money. I get that he can't be in the ring anymore, but he still looks like Hulk Hogan and has nostalgia factor. And of course he goes for the cash ... he's not stupid.

Five years is a bit extreme, but he goes away for a year or so, and a comeback is a big deal. Many people who wanted to see him could tune into Spike every Thursday night for the past three years up until a few month ago.

 

[dave]

Five years is a bit extreme, but he goes away for a year or so, and a comeback is a big deal. Many people who wanted to see him could tune into Spike every Thursday night for the past three years up until a few month ago.

Just me, Thomas. I don't get Spike. Other than the Net, this is the first time I've since Hogan in years.

 

[JimLeavy59]

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

SERIAL KILLER SAMUEL SHAW sees LUST IN THE EYES OF MEN for Christy Hemme.

/sends SERIAL KILLER SAMUEL SHAW my address.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

LOL @ SHHHHH SHHHHHHHHHHHH SHHHHHHHH while SERIAL KILLER SAMUEL SHAW is choking out Ken Anderson.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Shaw is the best.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Sam Shaw gimmick is awesome.........Warner, has he asked for your location yet?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Sam Shaw gimmick is awesome.........Warner, has he asked for your location yet?

No, but when I achieve this, it will be the height of my fandom.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Great job by TNA showing the footage of the tag title switch from Morgantown, and making a really big deal about how "anything can happen!" at a house show.

Bad job of changing the titles in the most low rent looking building they ran over the last two weeks in Texas or WV. It looked like a banquet hall, low ceilings and all.

I know the bigger buildings they ran weren't exactly full, but I would have changed the titles in an actual arena and done low angle shots of the highlights like they end up doing at the tapings most of the time. Throw in an exterior shot of the arena and it looks like you have a hot live product with important matches/results in a big basketball arena, as opposed to a Elks Lodge with the Gabe Herbowitz bar mitzvah going on in the next room.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

From Japanese pal "calimike". Make this news extra fun by reading in an Asian accent:

WWE Japan announced Daniel Bryan, Bray Wyatt, Luke Harper, Eric Rowan, John Cena and other are coming to Tokyo and Osaka in July for 3 days tour.

7/10 Sumo Hall
7/11 Sumo Hall
7/12 Osaka Maishima Arena (7,000 capacity)

WWE visit Osaka for first time in 10 years. I don't remember when did WWE visit Osaka? John Cena will appear at Sumo Hall on 7/10-11 only but he won't coming to Osaka. No idea why.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I am fucking :dead: @ the pic being taken from BEHIND THE FLOWERS. I have no doubt Jim Lanza was crouching too, as to not be seen.

Four eyes in the background could probably get it though.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

JIM LANZA