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ThomasTomasz said:
Yes, the undercard in WWF was awful up until Jericho/Benoit/Malenko/Saturn/Guerrero made the jump over. Until then, you had a good group of tag teams, none of which were really established as singles performers, with the upper mid card saved only by the fact that there wasn't always room for some of the guys to be in the main event scene.

I think the Hardcore championship came about as a way to combat it.....truly gimmicky at times and that was also a reason they continually swapped the belts to different guys.
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Hardcore Title was a truly awful gimmick. I never liked it. Never got into it. Was shit and it never got anybody over.

Looking through the list of champions...yup...never got a single guy over.

Maybe, in an alternate universe, if you kept the title on RVD or Raven or Al Snow...a former ECW guy that came over on the tail end of the Monday Night Wars or even after it and had the title for a while and had a string of defenses.

Instead, it was a gimmick title given to Foley and it never stopped being a joke championship, eventually leading to its awful gimmick stipulations that just made for really bad segments and transitions in the TV show.

Everyone that was involved with it, was seen as a joke at the time. And one of the major reasons the WWE mid-card was so bad at the time was because the mid-carders were always seen as a joke. Never given anything productive to do.
 
LiquidLarry2GhostWF said:
So, I guess word on the street is that Solomon Crowe debuted, but didn't debut as a hacker or Adam Rose's DJ...he just debuted as Sami Callihan.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa....two guys named SAMI?

How will the fans ever be able to tell them apart? This is going to be so confusing. Like when Shane Helms debuted, I was all like, wait, is that Shane McMahon? Then they changed it to Gregory and I had a much easier time.
 
Continuing my rant...

The tag teams were shit in 98-99. Godwins...LOD2000...The Nation of Domination...this was also Owen's "NUGGET" era, awful...possibly Foley's worst in-ring run was during this period...Kane was always a featured player.

Seriously, if anyone sees me fall into that wormhole...get me the fuck out.
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
Whoa, whoa, whoa....two guys named SAMI?

How will the fans ever be able to tell them apart? This is going to be so confusing. Like when Shane Helms debuted, I was all like, wait, is that Shane McMahon? Then they changed it to Gregory and I had a much easier time.
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No...still was Solomon Crowe, just didn't have a gimmick...he was just ol Cannonball Sami.
 
It fascinates me that they aren't putting Cena in the main event of Mania...beyond Bryan, who should be, too...Cena is their go-to...main evented the last two that popped over a million buys...why Cena isn't in the main event and they insert Orton and Batista...silly.

Cena-Bryan II should be the main event. Biggest draw v. hot, most over face.
 
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Warner2BruceTD said:
WWE has signed Drake Younger.
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Awesome news.

He has become a nice worker. Not quite a Generico level babyface in the way he garners babyface sympathy...but one of the top guys on the Indys right now in that regard.

Also, a guy in desperate need of a name change. Can't get much worse than DRAKE YOUNGER.

At bare minimum, he is a great enhancement talent for heels.
 
LiquidLarry2GhostWF said:
Awesome news.

He has become a nice worker. Not quite a Generico level babyface in the way he garners babyface sympathy...but one of the top guys on the Indys right now in that regard.

Also, a guy in desperate need of a name change. Can't get much worse than DRAKE YOUNGER.

At bare minimum, he is a great enhancement talent for heels.
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The word going around is Regal really liked him when he went to that PWG show as a fan last year. Ricochet too so they seem to listen to Regal when it comes to his suggestions for getting guys looked at. Devitt is another one.
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
The word going around is Regal really liked him when he went to that PWG show as a fan last year. Ricochet too so they seem to listen to Regal when it comes to his suggestions for getting guys looked at. Devitt is another one.
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I believe Regal was there for his match against Adam Cole. Younger that weekend was fantastic. Also had a great match with Sami Callihan on Night 1.

Regal is loving what he does now.
 
Almost forgot wrestling announcers actually could call moves, but that nxt show last week made me remember.

Cole & Co., I know they're told not to call the action like that, but it pales in comparison.
 
Lance Storm, who always comes off as a 100% level headed dude, wrote this to close the latest blog on his website:

Oh just one last after thought, because it is a constant topic of debate. If there is a way for someone to use my passing in an angle to further someone's career, have at it. I won't mind, I'll be dead, and you won't have to worry about offending my family, because none of them are wrestling fans, they won't be watching.
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lol
 
I wanna see a 3 hour video of Lance Storm going from his usual hardline, logical self to becoming ridiculously sloppy drunk. I'm willing to pay upwards of $40, and if he keeps the exact same diction and temperment throughout he should win an Oscar. For serious.
 
2003 Royal Rumble, Bill DeMott comes out and JR drops a classic line of foreshadowing......

"Here comes a very disturbed and dangerous human being"
 
Buck Zumhoff found guilty of 12 counts of sexual assault. He was fucking/molesting his daughter for 20+ years.

When the verdict was read, he attempted to RUN FROM THE COURTROOM before being tackled by police officers.
 
2/28 Columbia, SC (TNA - 700): Manik won three-way over Chris Sabin and Zema Ion, Ethan Carter III b Dewey Barnes & Norv Fernum, ODB b Rockstar Spud, Samuel Shaw b Kenny King, No DQ: Gunner b James Storm, 2/3 falls cage match: Ken Anderson b Bully Ray

3/1 Johnson City, TN (TNA - 700): Kenny King & Manik b Chris Sabin & Zema Ion, Ethan Carter III b Norv Fernum & Dewey Barnes, ODB b Rockstar Spud, Samuel Shaw b Chase Owens, Street fight: Gunner b James Storm, Cage match 2/3 falls: Ken Anderson b Bully Ray

3/2 Knoxville (TNA - 1,400): Kenny King & Manik b Chris Sabin & Zema Ion, Ethan Carter III b Dewey Barnes & Norv Fernum, ODB b Rockstar Spud, Samuel Shaw b Shawn Schultz, Street fight: Gunner b James Storm, 2/3 falls cage match: Ken Anderson b Bully Ray


This tells me three things.

One, all of the big stars were in Japan (they were forced to book Fernum & Barnes ffs), and they drew better than the last two house show swings anyway. So nobody has star power in TNA. But we kind of knew that already.

Two, Knoxville did very well by TNA standards, so they'll never go back.

Three, TJ Perkins & Kenny King are actually alive.
 
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