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Women don't draw money...except Snookie.

However, Kong is the best chick right now...she's just got a look, charisma, and has some skills for a chick in the ring.

They should have had her v. Beth Phoenix.
 
Ron Killings is beyond awesome.

Kong could definitely draw some money larry. She's different enough, she's unique, she has a special aura about her....put in the right situation with the right opponent, she could do better than pulling ratings for TNA.
 
I love Kong...but, women just don't draw money in the States now, and when they ever have (if they truly have) the names were few and far between and had odd circumstances (shit like Mildred Burke, or Moolah, or Wendi Richter with Cindi Lauper. Sad, (or, is it not?) but true.
 
Eric Young is dressed like Great Muta and Anderson looks like 80's Sting.

:smh:

EDIT: We got to see some GREEN MIST though, so not so bad.
 
HUSTLE EXCLUSIVE – An Editorial By The Vice President of Dragon Gate USA
It’s no secret that wrestling .. errrr … sports entertainment needs something to shake it up. WWE gained a great boost recently with the return of Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson. Now they need that one hook for the mainstream public like Mike Tyson was in 1996. “The Answer” just quit his job and became a free agent. His name is Shaquille O’Neal.

Shaq is on the market. It’s well documented he loves wrestling. He understands how to entertain and perform. He has size and athletic ability. The best part is he could now make a long term commitment and he’s looking for something new to do.

I have three Dragon Gate USA events to book for this weekend, in fact they are very important shows. We have Boston on Friday, Long Island on Saturday and New York City on Sunday. These are the only DGUSA events of the summer. Friday and Sunday are on live iPPV at WWNLive.com. We will hit it out of the park and then party to celebrate our second anniversary, but please allow me to take a minute now and fantasy book.

WWE holds a press conference in late July and announces Shaquille O’Neal has signed a contract to be a sports entertainer. He is introduced as part of SummerSlam. However, he isn’t stepping right into the ring. Shaq wants to do this right and will start intense training. His head trainer?

“STONE COLD” STEVE AUSTIN!

Just imagine the training vignettes with those two performers!

Austin immediately declares that Shaq will have his debut match at Wrestlemania when O’Neal returns to his old stomping grounds of Miami.

We start a slow build of training vignettes. Finally, Shaq is ready to make his first live appearance at Raw. We need a foil. No one would be better than CM PUNK. The tension between the two camps slowly simmers. It boils over six weeks before Wrestlemania when Punk attacks and “injures” Austin’s neck. Now Shaq is coming for revenge.

“The Straight Edge Superstar” will deliver on the promos, he can have a good match against anyone and he is the man WWE should be building around. He’s even already gotten into it on Twitter with Austin (after a little egging on by the man behind the Hustle, Paul Heyman). Punk can give Shaq a good match, put him over and not lose any credibility. In fact, Punk’s star will soar with this program.

Shaq vs. CM Punk at Wrestlemania 28 in Miami. Book it! It’s a dream match in sports entertainment.

This weekend with Dragon Gate USA, we’ll have dream matches for pro wrestling fans. If you can’t be there in person, you can watch DGUSA on live iPPV worldwide this Friday and Sunday at www.WWNLive.com at 8pm Eastern Time.

Gabe Sapolsky is the Vice President of Dragon Gate USA. The promotion hits The Wonderland Ballroom in Revere, Massachusetts June 3rd … The NYWC Sportatorium in Long Island on June 4th … and BB King’s in Times Square, NYC this Sunday, June 5th. Go to www.DGUSA.TV

For information on Dragon Gate USA’s Live iPPV, check out www.WWNLive.com
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http://www.heymanhustle.com/articles/news/23-news/167164-vince-mcmahon-shaquille-oneal
 
Gabe & Paul Heyman have to realise that by constantly putting CM Punk over, they are really burying him, right?

Thing is, Punk likely doesnt give a shit. But they are both right, he is very underutilized. The guy can do it all.
 
BigBiss said:
God Gabe can be a pretentious prick ...
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Gabe and Heyman are IWC faves. They're the most logical in the business (with Cornette and D'Amore), but not without fault as some would lead you to believe.
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s@ppisgod said:
Gabe and Heyman are IWC faves. They're the most logical in the business (with Cornette and D'Amore), but not without fault as some would lead you to believe.
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Gabe the guy who is burning though some one elses money to run agianst the guy that fired him for burning though his money is logical ???
 
BigBiss said:
God Gabe can be a pretentious prick ...
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I love when Biss makes these random statements out of nowhere with no copntext, shit cracks me up every time.

My take on Gabe:

Brilliant booker who was was booking for the right crowd at the right time. One of the few modern guys who respects long term storytelling. When many of his storylines peaked, you found yoursefl saying, "holy shit, that's why that other thing happened 4 months ago, wow, it all makes sense!". He often planned out his stories two champions in advance. The Nigel title win was planned out something like two years in advance. Who does that? Only Vince Sr did shit like that on a consistant basis.

His booking requires you to pay attention. That's why it was the "right crowd", because the ROH fan is going to devour every show, pay attention to all the details, and care about every match result.

He used to do subtle shit like booking storylines that were venue specific. For example, on a card in Edison one time, Hagadorn used brass knux to beat Bobby Demppsey in a pre show match. A few months later, they played off of that finish in a tag match. These were PRE SHOW matches, yet they had a little story going with them beyond "Dempsey hates Hagadorn", and it rewarded the fans for paying attention to the previous matches. WWE & TNA don't respect the fans enough to pay ettention to detail in MAIN EVENT storylines.

It was the right time, because the style of wrestling Gabe prefers was just getting hot when he got the book.

Gabe also effectively built stars (within his bubble, or course) and has a great eye for new talent, much like the guy he learned from. The ROH roster turned over more than people think over the years, but he was always able to replace the Christopher Daniels, Samoa Joes, and Bryan Danielsons with the Nigels and Daveys and Heros.

The negative, is he's over sensative to criticism. Why he gets into internet wars of words with people is beyond me. Who cares if some guy from some website didnt like your last show?

Another negative, is his obsession with "factions". Gabe became enamoured with the Dragon Gate style, and thats fine. I remember his saying that it was the future of wrestling, and would take over for the "head drop" style on the indy level. And it is an very exciting, progressive style. But ROH fans rejected the "faction wars", which was a concept taken directly from Dragon Gate, and now with Dragon Gate USA, Gabe has once again booked a promotion built entirely around factions. It just doesnt work.

Another problem, is the Dragon Gate guys are world class level elite athletically, and its not like you can find a bunch of indy guys hanging around who can do what Masato Yoshino and Dragon Kid can do. Rich Swann, Chuck Taylor, Johnny Gargano, these guys are good young talents, but they cant touch the DG guys, which is a crazy high standard, but who also have been working on the style since the early 2000's when most of them started in Toryumon. I'm just not sure something as narrow as DGUSA can make it beyond the level they are at.

And finally, he will never admit it, but its pretty clear Gabe is still hurt/pissed about being canned by ROH. That was his baby, but it was clear coming off of "faction wars" that he needed a breather. Plus, he didnt want to book for TV, and you had all of the DG drama.
 
What kind of money does Aries make, legitimately. I know you or Biss has to have a rough figure.

What in the fuck else is he going to do that will net him more money? Hasn't that always been his gripe is that he's not making big money so he'll go elsewhere? Doesn't he run a little wrestling school operation...surely he can't be making serious coin doing that...
 
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