The General Wrestling Thread

[Warner2BruceTD]

What kind of money does Aries make, legitimately. I know you or Biss has to have a rough figure.

What in the fuck else is he going to do that will net him more money? Hasn't that always been his gripe is that he's not making big money so he'll go elsewhere? Doesn't he run a little wrestling school operation...surely he can't be making serious coin doing that...

I'm sure biss would have a good idea on what a guy like him can get payoff wise on the indy circuit these days. If top ROH guys are pulling down roughly $500+ per shot (I think Davey gets like $700? or in that range. less for TV tapings), I would assume Aries is getting less for EVOLVE or whatever.

He was running the ROH school for a while, but not in years. I dont think he has a school, but I could be wrong.

Aries simply has no options, I think he's just frustrated at this point. I dont think he sees eye to eye with Delirious, so ROH is not an option. He was rejected by the WWE (for Tough Enough, at least). TNA doesnt seem to be an option.

He basically has been working for Gabe's two promotions, but DGUSA and EVOLVE run infrequently. I know he's been doing some PWG out in LA, and random indy shots. I would suspect his income is way down from when he was a ROH regular, especially when he was doing ROH and TNA at the same time. DGUSA & EVOLVE draw in the 200-400 range, so the payoffs cant be what he was getting in ROH, plus its less frequent.

He has talked about doing some acting, I dont know if he has anything lined up, but I know he was taking classes.

He's basically a guy who is in his 30's now who has been doing indy's far too long to be an indy darling anymore, while most of the guys he came up with have moved on (Joe, Danielson, Punk, Shelley, Nigel, etc). It must be depressing, knowing you are just as talented, but now you look around and you are the "old guy" in the lockerroom, being used to put over the Rich Swann's of the world on iPPV's in front of 150 people in a bar. Especially when not too long ago you were working Hammerstein in front of 2000, and on TV every week as a headliner, looking like a good bet to get on WWE TV.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

You make a good point, W2B...good post

 

[BigBiss]

not much I can add to what W2B had to say, Sadly his numbers may be a little high.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

not much I can add to what W2B had to say, Sadly his numbers may be a little high.

I did some investigating, and When Davey signed that new deal with ROH he received a raise to $500 per shot, and slightly less for TV tapings.

So yeah, I overshot.

 

[BigBiss]

its all about doing well at the merch table

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

its all about doing well at the merch table

Of all of the shows I have been to, nobody pushes merch like the CHIKARA guys. It's the most fan friendly experience by far. All of the guys come out and mingle with the fans, take pictures, sell gimmicks, shake hands, kiss babies, the whole nine. I've heard more than a few bad things about Quack, but I can say that he runs a really fun family freindly show.

 

[BigBiss]

Of all of the shows I have been to, nobody pushes merch like the CHIKARA guys. It's the most fan friendly experience by far. All of the guys come out and mingle with the fans, take pictures, sell gimmicks, shake hands, kiss babies, the whole nine. I've heard more than a few bad things about Quack, but I can say that he runs a really fun family freindly show.

I like Quack, alot of those stories seem to be due to the fact he has to do things promoters have to do

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I like Quack, alot of those stories seem to be due to the fact he has to do things promoters have to do

Exactly. You are going to piss people off.

He seems cordial enough to me.

 

[EmpireWF]

Of all of the shows I have been to, nobody pushes merch like the CHIKARA guys. It's the most fan friendly experience by far. All of the guys come out and mingle with the fans, take pictures, shake hands, kiss babies, the whole nine. I've heard more than a few bad things about Quack, but I can say that he runs a really fun family freindly show.

Old TNA house shows were like this (only went to one about a year or so ago). Solid in-ring work, followed by most of the guys meeting the fans, doing all that stuff.

 

[SHOGUN]

Killings was awesome last night.

The Del Rio segment was awful and completely killed the crowd.

I was surprised to see Andy win TE over Luke.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Killings was awesome last night.

The Del Rio segment was awful and completely killed the crowd.

I was surprised to see Andy win TE over Luke.

Wait? Skidmarks? I only watched the first few weeks but he was disastrously bad.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Andy wasn't Skid Marks.

Andy was the really tall guy with the goatee.

All of them were bad, the cut the only guy worth a shit week 2.

 

[SHOGUN]

Wait? Skidmarks? I only watched the first few weeks but he was disastrously bad.

Andy was the big white dude who had the wife and kid.

Skidmarks was Ryan.

 

[EmpireWF]

Andy wasn't Skid Marks.

Andy was the really tall guy with the goatee.

All of them were bad, the cut the only guy worth a shit week 2.

Nobody really showed themselves to be an MVP on the show....but they ended up going with the 6'4 guy instead of the 5'11 guy.

SIZEEEEEEEEE

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Ah I thought that dude looked like Skid Marks. Surprised that Luke guy didnt win.. he looked the best from the 3 episodes I watched.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Nobody really showed themselves to be an MVP on the show....but they ended up going with the 6'4 guy instead of the 5'11 guy.

SIZEEEEEEEEE

shocking!

I think Luke lost because they wanted to humble him. All of them will end up in FCW anyway.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Andy has size and a "look"...he sucks otherwise, but it is what it is.

 

[EmpireWF]

I thought it would be cool if they had Andy win....then have Luke snap and beat the fuck out of him. Since Luke didn't win, he doesn't have a contract so he'd be off TV for a bit. Andy would be off TV selling the injuries....meanwhile, they can head to FCW to fine tune their shit.

Have Andy start on RAW at some date and build towards wanting to beat the fuck out of Luke....but he can't since he's not a WWE Superstar. All the while, Luke has videos played during RAW, taunting Andy and shit....we find out later Luke is aligning with Miz.

Would've been better than Luke walking away, then Vince slapping the winner and sulking off like a schmuck.

 

[Pills]

Glad Andy won, actually. Martin (Tristin Gallo) was easily the best, but he busted his ankle.

I think Luke's main issue is that he couldn't talk to people. There were episodes when they had to speak in public (and cut a promo), and he was terrible. That being said, his personality makes him a natural heel.

Andy wasn't great, but he at least showed something.

Andy's only 24. Honestly, he reminds me a lot of Kane. He's not as big, but has a similar type of intensity that he could easily build on.

 

[BigBiss]

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