The General Wrestling Thread

[EmpireWF]

Again, the Hogan/Andre thing just doesn't hold up over time. Vince loading up on giant, monster wrestlers just makes Andre seem less "special" in retrospect. Hogan, though, is like the Babe Ruth of wrestling. Goldberg beating him, while anyone with a TV and interest in wrestling watched, in front of the hottest crowd ever. Well, thats a bigger moment to me. Lost a ton of money, yeah. But EVERYONE remembers it.
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Everyone remembers WM 3, too.

Of course the match doesn't hold up, it's a broken down Andre and Hogan. Still, regardless, the moment when he bodyslams him and pins him is one of the top moments in modern wrestling.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Again, the Hogan/Andre thing just doesn't hold up over time. Vince loading up on giant, monster wrestlers just makes Andre seem less "special" in retrospect. Hogan, though, is like the Babe Ruth of wrestling. Goldberg beating him, while anyone with a TV and interest in wrestling watched, in front of the hottest crowd ever. Well, thats a bigger moment to me. Lost a ton of money, yeah. But EVERYONE remembers it.
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Hogan and Andre is maybe the biggest and most important moments in the game in North America.

Goldberg and Hogan, while cool, really big...not even close to importance and definitely not bigger.

 

[s@ppisgod]

Everyone remembers WM 3, too.

Of course the match doesn't hold up, it's a broken down Andre and Hogan. Still, regardless, the moment when he bodyslams him and pins him is one of the top moments in modern wrestling.

It's still huge. It's still the WWE's biggest moment, by a pretty good margin. But the Goldberg thing just holds up so well because that crowd was INSANE! The WM 3 crowd was a little bigger, and really hot. But Atlanta was on a whole different level. It was like a rabid, college football crowd. It's saying something that the Nitro crowds always skewed older and were rowdy (how many drunks did Peewee Anderson have to take down over the years?), and this one blows them out of the water by a wide margin. The crowd ended up being as big of an attraction as Goldberg (insanely hot at the time) beating a legend who damn near never lost clean in WCW for the title.
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[s@ppisgod]

Hogan and Andre is maybe the biggest and most important moments in the game in North America.

Goldberg and Hogan, while cool, really big...not even close to importance and definitely not bigger.

I'm not arguing importance. Obviously the Andre match put Hogan on another level, and he went on to dominate as the most well-known wrestler ever for the biggest promotiin ever, and be one of the biggest draws ever. And Goldberg went on to become, well, irrelevant in a year and Hogan would twiddle his thumbs until the showdown with the Rock roughly.

But as a stand-alone wrestling moment and memory, I think the Goldberg Nitro is bigger. Show a non-wrestling fan both, and I guarantee the Goldberg moment sticks better. No build, no aftermath. Just intros to end bell. The Nitro match is it, IMHO.
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[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I'm not arguing importance. Obviously the Andre match put Hogan on another level, and he went on to dominate as the most well-known wrestler ever for the biggest promotiin ever, and be one of the biggest draws ever. And Goldberg went on to become, well, irrelevant in a year and Hogan would twiddle his thumbs until the showdown with the Rock roughly.

But as a stand-alone wrestling moment and memory, I think the Goldberg Nitro is bigger. Show a non-wrestling fan both, and I guarantee the Goldberg moment sticks better. No build, no aftermath. Just intros to end bell. The Nitro match is it, IMHO.
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Non-wrestling fans know Hogan-Andre without even having to look.

That staredown, with the camera zooming in is probably the most iconic wrestling visual of all-time. It was just epic. The closer you get, you see Hogan's head shaking, the crowd erupting, that was sports cinema.

I love the Goldberg-Hogan moment, I just don't think they compare.

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[FedEx227]

Newest episode of my Voices of Wrestling show is now live features a VSN alum Dexter/RKO.

http://www.voicesofwrestling.com/2011/08/voices-of-wrestling-episode-2-dexter.html

The second (and long awaited) episode of the Voices of Wrestling podcast! Tonight's subject is Dexter a 22-year old wrestling fan from Illinois. Dexter and I talk a number of different wrestling topics including Kevin Nash, nWo, Wrestlemania 25, Randy Orton's music, CM Punk and much more.

Dexters's Voices of Wrestling profile
When did you become a fan? During the Monday Night Wars
Three favorite wrestlers: CM Punk, Randy Orton, A.J. Styles
Favorite match: Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker WrestleMania 25

And again anyone from VSN who wants to be interviewed for the show please fill out the "Be on VOW" form on the top of the page, there's a lot of awesome fans on this forum and you guys need your voices heard!

 

[JayDizzle]

Now "Barney" is an overgrown puppet suit but the look on that purple dinosaur's face is one of pure anguish and misery.

Randall Keith Orton is high on PCP and uppers.

One isn't leaving that room alive.

 

[SHOGUN]

In the segment-by-segment, the open with HHH explaining his story and Alberto Del Rio doing his interview did a 3.73 rating, the high point of the show. John Morrison vs. R-Truth falls count anywhere lost 817,000 viewers, one of the worst drops of any match all year, and the worst I can recall for an opener in any kind of recent memory. The Miz doing his Subway ad with Jared Fogle gained 225,000 viewers. Kelly Kelly & Eve Torres vs. Bella Twins lost 52,000 viewers. The Kevin Nash interview with C.M. Punk out gained 556,000 viewers at the 10 p.m. hour, which is usual range. Alex Riley vs. Jack Swagger lost 619,000 viewers, also worse then usual. Michael McGillicutty & David Otunga vs. Kofi Kingston & Evan Bourne lost 412,000 viewers. And the Alberto Del Rio vs. Rey Mysterio main event gained 763,000 viewers to a 3.41 overrun.

Dreadful. My goodness @ the Truth/Morrison drop.

 

[JayDizzle]

Morrison's an also-ran and R-Truth should be having bigger matches instead of wrestling with Midcard bums anymore.

It's like having to wrestle Shelton Benjamin over and over again after fighting HHH.

 

[dave]

Morrison isn't an also-ran, he's horribly miscast. Making that guy a babyface is the stupidest thing ever. He's heel all the way. Watching him as a babyface is like watching me as a ladies' man ... just awkward.

 

[BigBiss]

Morrison just bores me not sure a heel turn would have changed that, was thinking Him and Kofi would have been a good high energy tag but looks like Sydal got that spot.

TNA by Mania

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Morrison is fine...he's good in the ring...but hasn't been given anything worth a damn for a long time.

Doesn't help the man isn't respected as a man...

TNA by Mania.

 

[EmpireWF]

Morrison is boring as hell. He's flashy but it never looks good. He always misses his highspots which makes it look fake as hell.

Plus, the few times they let him talk...he's as wooden as Randy Orton.

It's hilarious that a bunch of guys have been portraying the same exact characters for years now. At least with guys like Miz and Killings, they're able to now talk and advance it forward.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Morrison has the personality of a thumb tack. The fans are BEGGING for him to get over and hes just flat out unable to capture anyone with his mic work.

 

[SHOGUN]

The Summer of Devon might have finally come to an end....

 

[EmpireWF]

The Summer of Devon might have finally come to an end....

?

 

[SHOGUN]

?

Devon was assaulted by Samoa Joe after his match with Scott Steiner. Joe pulled off the Musclebuster on his knee and even went with an inverted heel hook to seal the deal.

Even if he returns, he probably doesn't have enough points to qualify for the BFG Final 4.

 

[EmpireWF]

lol if you're getting beat up by Joe in TNA, you must be in the shitter.

 

[SHOGUN]

Matt Hardy has just been released by TNA and not a single fuck was given.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQIHbHJNjj8[/ame]

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Matt Hardy has just been released by TNA and not a single fuck was given.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQIHbHJNjj8

What in the fuck is happening here?