The General Wrestling Thread

[BigBiss]

The angle is sloppy. Having Show put in because he is sleeping with Vickie? I've said from the statrt "seriously WWE, is this the best you could come up with for 1/2 of the main event at WM25?".

HBK / Taker and HHH vs Orton are what is selling this PPV, sad but true.

i would not be shocked to see Taker fall, but with Shawn getting the uper had the last week im seeing it less and less now

if there is not a shane swerve at mania then they missed the boat.

 

[BazookaJoe5]

My picks for the big matches are...

Edge, Hunter, Taker (duh), Jericho, Hardy ), Jeff), JBL

I'll lay out my picks...

Edge...HHH...Taker...Legends (due to interference, of course)...Jeff...JBL...Kofi...missing anything?

I picked Kofi for MITB over on MM a few weeks ago and I'll stick with it...:2thumbs:

 

[EmpireWF]

Kofi has no shot IMO. They have done absolutely nothing with him since that forgetful tag run with Punk. Sucks but they do nothing with lots of the guys.


PWI reports Tazz's contract expired today and he has left the company. He did the Smackdown tapings last night and that appears to be his last TV date (this Friday). No word on who will fill in for him at Wrestlemania.

If he doesn't return, this would be the PERFECT opportunity to move JBL back to the announce booth after WM.

 

[Bigpapa42]

I honestly don't see the payoff to Michaels going over Taker. I could see Taker willingly doing the job and giving up the streak, just out of respect to Michaels. Especially if Michaels is close to retiring, as has been rumored. But does that really help Michaels at all? Is he going to get more over? Is it going to make his career any more respected?

As well, giving up the streak means the Undertaker is giving up his greatest accomplishment. He's going to go down as one of the best big men ever, who managed to put on great matches over a very long period of time (and some crap in there, too). He managed to make a typically pretty weak gimmick truly classic. Sure, he's held the title a number of times, but that really doesn't compare to some of his contemporaries such as Triple H and even now Edge, not to mention Cena eventually. The combined length of Undertaker's reigns is not that impressive, either. The only that truly makes him stand out, that no one will ever equal, is that streak. Ending it is taking away the Undertaker's greatest legacy. While that's a helluva nice retirement gift to give to Michael's, I just don't see it as being anywhere near worth it.

 

[calgaryballer]

Was there a reason Tazz never looked to wrestle again? It just seems he got forced into the booth when he still had a lot to deliver in the ring. Is he still training guys?

 

[EmpireWF]

Tazz had serious neck injuries which piled up over time, not to mention he was getting out of shape so he turned to the booth.

I would have been shocked if Taker lost to Shawn, it would have made no sense. If Taker ever does lose, it should be against a young guy to give him the rub, not to a nobody or even an old guy.

 

[BazookaJoe5]

Kofi has no shot IMO. They have done absolutely nothing with him since that forgetful tag run with Punk. Sucks but they do nothing with lots of the guys.

Couldn't the same be said for everyone else in the match, except for Punk who won't win again, and Kane...and maybe Henry? I narrow it to Kofi, MVP, and Shelton and there really is nothing to distinguish between them as far as I'm concerned. It could be any of them. I would guess MVP is probably the most likely since he can talk well, but I still feel like they would have done it sooner if they were going to push him hard.

The biggest mystery of WM is probably who will win the MITB match.

 

[Bigpapa42]

Tazz had serious neck injuries which piled up over time, not to mention he was getting out of shape so he turned to the booth.

I would have been shocked if Taker lost to Shawn, it would have made no sense. If Taker ever does lose, it should be against a young guy to give him the rub, not to a nobody or even an old guy.

The perfect time for Taker to lose the streak was against Orton a couple years ago. A clear superstar-in-the-making who was working the Legend Killer gimmick at the time. It ended up being unncessary, as Orton ended up hitting the heights anyway. That win might have just got him there a bit quicker.

 

[BigBiss]

if this gets me Tazz showing up on inpact and choking out Don West im all for it

 

[Bigpapa42]

Any one keeping up with King of Trios?

Besides my boys from st louis laying a egg looks like a pretty epic weekend.

Meant to answer this before. I really haven't been following. I've started to take a bit of interest in CHAKIRA, but haven't had the time to follow much of late.

 

[JayDizzle]

And thus... wrestling has brought forth singing greatness from the pipes of one CM Punk, Mickie James and Y2J himself.

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[Kia Kaha]

i just hope Shelton Benjamin wins MITB so he can get a shot at the big time in the WWE, he is easilt the best athelete and he can do some amazing things (like at WM22 in the MITB match where he jumped up the ladder and flipped outside the ring or when he jumped from the outside of the apron to the ladder in the middle of the ring). Sure he isnt great on the mic but he can learn, the gold standard is a phenomanal wrestler and i hop he gets his chance to shine, i mean on paper he should win any way

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I've been to a few WWE shows the past year in the area, and "interesting" is quite the appropriate word for the crowd there. I am hoping I can hold down the job I have now until next year to go to WM.

Anyone hear how Cena "challenged" Rock to a match at WM26? Of course, there is a better chance of me fucking Mickie James than there is Rock coming back to wrestle...but we can dream.

BTW, Larry, as in THE Larry? Long time no see, how have you been?

Yeah, same Larry. MM blew for the longest, so I never went over there. Hasselbeck told me about the second mass exodus and here I am. Been fine, just livin'.

Let me guess...ravensownall?

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

And thus... wrestling has brought forth singing greatness from the pipes of one CM Punk, Mickie James and Y2J himself.

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Well that was all kinds of awesome.

 

[BigBiss]

i just hope Shelton Benjamin wins MITB so he can get a shot at the big time in the WWE, he is easilt the best athelete and he can do some amazing things (like at WM22 in the MITB match where he jumped up the ladder and flipped outside the ring or when he jumped from the outside of the apron to the ladder in the middle of the ring). Sure he isnt great on the mic but he can learn, the gold standard is a phenomanal wrestler and i hop he gets his chance to shine, i mean on paper he should win any way

Kid cant cut a Promo to save his life, putting a belt on a guy like that is bad business, no matter how good he is.

 

[Bigpapa42]

Kid cant cut a Promo to save his life, putting a belt on a guy like that is bad business, no matter how good he is.

It wouldn't be if the WWE still believed in using manages as mouthpieces. But without that, yeah, its tough to have a top guy who can't cut a decent promo.

 

[BigBiss]

It wouldn't be if the WWE still believed in using manages as mouthpieces. But without that, yeah, its tough to have a top guy who can't cut a decent promo.

The Manager Job seems to be dead, witch sucks. imagian what Benoit could have done with a mouth piece.

Estrada was a breath of fresh air, Larry Sweeny is amazing, Nana, James Micheal. Hell even Divari.

 

[BigBiss]

and just when this Edge,Big Show, Cena match had reached a point were it disturbed me and could not interest me less, this

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/9719878?cid=2009EP-00

 

[Bigpapa42]

The Manager Job seems to be dead, witch sucks. imagian what Benoit could have done with a mouth piece.

Estrada was a breath of fresh air, Larry Sweeny is amazing, Nana, James Micheal. Hell even Divari.

I really don' understand why the WWE did away with the managers. They fit the entire idea of Sports Entertainment so perfectly. Yeah, its great when you have great workers who can do it on the microphone as well. But not every guy could. Would heel Andre have been anywhere near the same without Bobby Heenan? And its not like there's a lack of workers out there who are better on the microphone than in the ring - hello Santino Marella!

and just when this Edge,Big Show, Cena match had reached a point were it disturbed me and could not interest me less, this

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/9719878?cid=2009EP-00

Absolutely. Pregnancy angles are pretty much always terrible.

BTW, as if being bearded and 330 pounds won't already make me easy to pick out of the crowd at ROH, but I'll try to wear my Texas Longhorns #4 jersey. So look for the bearded 330 pound guy in a puke orange football jersey.

 

[dave]

Wrestlemania 25 a total bore card-wise.
At the very least, it should have been Chris Jericho vs. Ricky Steamboat in Steamboat's first match in 15 years.
Undertaker-HBK ... snooze, will be on RAW the next night.
HHH-Orton ... been there, done that.
Big Show-Cena-Edge ... snore
MITB ... always entertaining, but not worth the $59 to $69 WM will cost here
Diva battle royal ... I'd like to see Torrie Wilson again, but she isn't going to win and, again, not worth $59-69.
Tag team unification - we all know Miz/Morrison gonna win
JBL/Mysterio - snore. Mysterio gonna win.

7 or 8 matches over 4 hours ... two worth watching.
Gonna save my money and watch half these matches for free (the rematches) the next night on RAW.