The General Wrestling Thread

[IamMedellin]

Not really though.

Raw: 3.4

TNA: 1.0

That's a laughable bad rating for TNA.

that statement referred to the fact that Velvet Sky & The Ashley's title win was one of the 2 highest rated segments on TNA's monday night debut, while Hogan's match[the supposed main draw of the night] actually lost viewers...

 

[BigBiss]

knockout have always been the top draw thats why hogan has fired 3 since he started and Kong is sitting at home waiting to be released

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

He's been trying to bring in Elizabeth and Scary Sherri, but he doesn't understand why they won't return his calls.

 

[IamMedellin]

It's sad how they have squandered Orton over the past 6 or so months. At one point recently, had they turned him, he would have been the biggest star in the business, period.

Now, he's just another douche on the card thanks to their stupid booking. The fact he's "feuding" with two nobodies doesn't help matters.

It would be awesome if they have worked to get Rhodes & Dibiase to be looked at as serious foes. But nobody does, they're jokes.

speaking of squandered talent....Watever happened to Kofi Kingston?

 

[FedEx227]

that statement referred to the fact that Velvet Sky & The Ashley's title win was one of the 2 highest rated segments on TNA's monday night debut, while Hogan's match[the supposed main draw of the night] actually lost viewers...

Yeah, my bad... I kinda missed that entire page of the thread

 

[FedEx227]

He was HOT when he started that feud against Orton and for no reason whatsoever they never ran with it.

 

[RKO BLACK RKO]

somebody wanna break down to me why heath slater sucks?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

He was HOT when he started that feud against Orton and for no reason whatsoever they never ran with it.

Classic WWE start & stop push.

Then when the fans inevitably give up on the guy, they will say he "can't get over". (see Hardy, Matt)

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

somebody wanna break down to me why heath slater sucks?

For one, he looks like shit...he looks like he was one half of one of those cheesy 80's Rock 'n Roll Express knock off tag teams, hopped in a time machine, and landed in 2010.

Two, both of his matches have been shitty. Michael Tarver isnt exactly Dean Malenko, and Carlito has motivation issues, but still.

Three, he tries too hard and comes off like a toolbag. Nothing worse than lame, forced charisma.

Four, you have to be really good to overcome a shitty name like "Heath (Ledger/Christian) Slater". So clever! Kinda like Michael Tarver, who does a boxing gimmick...say, isnt there a boxer named "Tarver"? hmmmm...and to think, his name was "Tyson Tarver", before they gave the Tyson name to Kidd. Subtle.

 

[FedEx227]

now, while I don't really like Dibiase, they had him a few months back and did nothing with it.

This Legacy breakup thing is just SO poorly booked. Orton beats them up, RKO's Ted on the floor, okay cool he's the leader or whatever...

So the next week without any tension, no drama, nothing... they just started fighting? Why didn't they have Ted really not want to fight or really have a slow buildup to the fight. This was a HUGE thing, and all they did was just wrestle a match.

Ugh. Sometimes wrestling booking is just so frustrating.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Dibiase and Rhodes should be beating Orton within an inch of his life every single week on RAW. That would put sympathy on Orton (to trun him face), and make people think, "geez, i'd really like to see Orton get his hands on one of these guys one on one...those cowardly scroundrels!"

But in the WWE, only big stars are allowed to beat the other big stars within an inch of their life. That's why no one new gets over, unless the fans really force their hand, like they did with CM Punk.

 

[FedEx227]

Yeah exactly. They had the sympathy going with Cody/Ted a few months back, I remember when Cody pushed Orton down in February and the crowd went insane because he was seen as the runt who was finally sticking up for himself.

Next week he was by his side, with absolutely zero reference to what happened last week and now they want the dominant guy to be the face.

............:tocktock:

 

[IamMedellin]

the Dominant guy is a face.....0rton's been getting face pops since The Royal Rumble
The crowd has been indifferent to Legacy since...survivor series?
Dibiase and Rhodes havent been pushed as faces and theyre Bitch lackeys...hard to cheer for that
as for 0rton, WWE crowds just love to cheer assholes

 

[FedEx227]

But they could've attempted to combat that with the general audience. Of course you're going to have your older crowd cheering on the dick Orton, that's fine... happens all the time.

But they've given the general audience absolutely zero reason to cheer for Rhodes/Ted. While I don't think either are worth a damn, they could've easily done the Virgil/Ted Dibiase route where despite the lackey being pretty worthless you can still get a few good programs out of the lackey trying to take down his "boss".

This program will be done after Wrestlemania and never heard from again... that's a giant waste of a stable.

 

[FedEx227]

Someone is leaving before long.

Hogan is either bolting or Panda Energy is or something.

They are getting 1.0 ratings, which they were doing 2 years ago with double the payroll, on Spike's biggest night.

That can't continue.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Stop pushing people like Drew McIntyre and Shaemus, neither of whom anybody in any arena, anywhere gives a FUCK about, and realize that guys like Shelton Benjamin, CM Punk, John Morrison, and Kofi Kingston are not only the future, but guys who people WANT to see, and who can ACTUALLY PERFORM in the ring.

Morrison is terribly miscast as a babyface. He's the type of guy who should always be a heel.

Totally agree on McIntyre & Sheamus. Sheamus is kinda starting to get over, but McIntyre is just a pile of suck. He's HHH's workout buddy, and his hand picked "superstar of the future", so get used to him on top.

The Kofi de-push is something that should be surprising, but really isnt. He was hot, and like dozens before him, they let him cool off.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Morrison is terribly miscast as a babyface. He's the type of guy who should always be a heel.

Totally agree on McIntyre & Sheamus. Sheamus is kinda starting to get over, but McIntyre is just a pile of suck. He's HHH's workout buddy, and his hand picked "superstar of the future", so get used to him on top.

The Kofi de-push is something that should be surprising, but really isnt. He was hot, and like dozens before him, they let him cool off.

Emphasized.

He is a natural arrogant dick, because he is a natural athlete...you just need to turn up his heelishness and let him go.

He is actually quite good as a heel...as a face...blah.

He is much better off as John Morrison than I thought he'd be after they changed it up from Nitro.

 

[FedEx227]

I think McIntyre is another workout buddy with Sheamus and HHH. That's what I've heard before.

 

[FedEx227]

The Kofi de-push is something that should be surprising, but really isnt. He was hot, and like dozens before him, they let him cool off.

They refuse to let guys get their own cheers/heat. They want everything manufactured and under their control. It's sad really. They weren't ready for Kofi to be a star, and even though the crowd reacted as such, they just wouldn't let it happen.

Sad really.

 

[IamMedellin]

Kofi got MVP'd...

he had star quality, he was good in the ring, he had "IT"
and the WWE beat it out of him...