The General Wrestling Thread

[s@ppisgod]

To add to your first point, two of the best remaining guys, Michael Elgin & Kevin Steen, are rumored to be having WWE try outs at the next camp.

TNA should dig to that "second level", because you are right about the top tier indie guys. Many people tell me a lot of those guys avoid TNA like the plague for the reasons you stated.

Elgin should be gone already. Steen is probably going to get Cabana'd for some reason or another. Bennett and Cole probably have shots at WWE. Gargano may be in the Aries range where TNA could become a viable option only because WWE doesn't show interest forever. Who else is a top indy? Sami Callahan, but I know how you feel about him. I don't think he'd go to TNA.

 

[FedEx227]

Callahan is already in WWE developmental as Solomon Crowe.

One of the top names is one they actually had in for a tryout a few weeks back and that's Ricochet. What they didn't see in this guy, I'll never know. Superstar look, best high-flyer in the world (sorry Kota) and sure he can't talk but he's not the dirt worst.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Ricochet is the perfect guy you bring in with another high flier and form a tag team with him and let them run. The only improvements he has to make are ones he will sort out as he goes from the smaller stages to the big ones and finds his character and voice more.

 

[JimLeavy59]

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Elgin should be gone already. Steen is probably going to get Cabana'd for some reason or another. Bennett and Cole probably have shots at WWE. Gargano may be in the Aries range where TNA could become a viable option only because WWE doesn't show interest forever. Who else is a top indy? Sami Callahan, but I know how you feel about him. I don't think he'd go to TNA.

Steen himself says they have looked at him - very seriously - TWICE and both times they straight up told him he needs to lose weight before they bring him in and he hasn't exactly gone on a diet. Steen's worst enemy getting to the WWE is himself, sadly.

They've also looked at Cabana for well over what...a year and a half at this point as a commentator. Cabana seemingly is cool doing what he is doing at this point.

I've oft-said, TNA should pick up the guys the WWE has no interest in...the Wolves were a really good signing. WWE straight up said no, they went to TNA. They should do the same with Steen. They should go after Kyle O'Reilly, Mike Bennett, The Briscoes, Mr. Touchdown, Willie Mack...whoever...anyone the WWE hasn't sniffed around or has openly said no to, should have TNA on their nuts.

TNA should embrace themselves as the land of misfit toys.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Steen himself says they have looked at him - very seriously - TWICE and both times they straight up told him he needs to lose weight before they bring him in and he hasn't exactly gone on a diet. Steen's worst enemy getting to the WWE is himself, sadly.

They've also looked at Cabana for well over what...a year and a half at this point as a commentator. Cabana seemingly is cool doing what he is doing at this point.

I've oft-said, TNA should pick up the guys the WWE has no interest in...the Wolves were a really good signing. WWE straight up said no, they went to TNA. They should do the same with Steen. They should go after Kyle O'Reilly, Mike Bennett, The Briscoes, Mr. Touchdown, Willie Mack...whoever...anyone the WWE hasn't sniffed around or has openly said no to, should have TNA on their nuts.

TNA should embrace themselves as the land of misfit toys.

...and if they had done that years ago, they may have landed some of these guys that WWE eventually came around on who are tearing shit up every week on TV and headlining PPV's.

It's a good plan, and i'm glad they're embracing it.

RE: Steen. Funny how he's too out of shape, but yet they signed that tub of goo Smith James, who looks like shit and isn't one tenth as talented as Steen.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Serious question.

WWE keeps pushing this idea that Cena/Orton is this great rivalry of historical proportions.

Would it crack a list of Top 100 All Time Wrestling Rivalries? I don't think it would. They've wrestled a million times and to me they've had one memorable match (Extreme Rules unification deal this past year).

 

[FedEx227]

I'm running statistics on them right now, expect an article tomorrow.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Serious question.

WWE keeps pushing this idea that Cena/Orton is this great rivalry of historical proportions.

Would it crack a list of Top 100 All Time Wrestling Rivalries? I don't think it would. They've wrestled a million times and to me they've had one memorable match (Extreme Rules unification deal this past year).

Cena-Punk is much higher on the all-time scale.

 

[EmpireWF]

I'd always heard of the rule of thumb for wrestlers about working on the right side of the body. Never really thought about it much because I rarely saw guys working on the left (even lefties)...UNTIL I just saw a GWF match (ESPN Classic) between Booker T and Alex Porteau.

Booker was giving him these armdrags on the left side and they totally looked bad, plus Booker had to adjust to the right side when they were on the ground for the resthold.

Didn't realize how obvious something like that stood out.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Cena-Punk is much higher on the all-time scale.

I don't give a fuck about the groan, but i'm starring at the screen trying to figure out why you hit me with one.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I'd always heard of the rule of thumb for wrestlers about working on the right side of the body. Never really thought about it much because I rarely saw guys working on the left (even lefties)...UNTIL I just saw a GWF match (ESPN Classic) between Booker T and Alex Porteau.

Booker was giving him these armdrags on the left side and they totally looked bad, plus Booker had to adjust to the right side when they were on the ground for the resthold.

Didn't realize how obvious something like that stood out.

You got it backwards, it's right side in Mexico and left side everywhere else, but yeah.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I don't give a fuck about the groan, but i'm starring at the screen trying to figure out why you hit me with one.

Gave it to you by accident. Thanks given.

 

[JimLeavy59]

:dd:

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

MVP does a great job in his role. He's clearly motivated, unlike half the guys who show up in TNA and clearly dog it (RVD. Booker T.)

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Wolves/Joe vs BroMans was a surprisingly good match. BroMans are growing on me.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Wolves/Joe vs BroMans was a surprisingly good match. BroMans are growing on me.

Came here to post this. Really fun trios match, Wolves looked great and Joe looked like he gave a shit for once. I can get behind this new, motivated Samoa Joe.

Zemo Ion is one heck of a little worker. Bumps all over the place and has great mannerisms.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Came here to post this. Really fun trios match, Wolves looked great and Joe looked like he gave a shit for once. I can get behind this new, motivated Samoa Joe.

Zemo Ion is one heck of a little worker. Bumps all over the place and has great mannerisms.

Joe is looking like he is getting a run at the top, definitely notice a difference between now and when I first started watching.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Joe is looking like he is getting a run at the top, definitely notice a difference between now and when I first started watching.

To be fair, who else can they use at the top?

Sting is gone. Styles is gone. Bubba has moved on as a secondary heel and still feuding with Anderson. Angle can barely move. Aries is back down in the X-Division.

With that said, I'm all for SERIAL KILLER SAMUEL SHAW getting a push as a top babyface.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

With that said, I'm all for SERIAL KILLER SAMUEL SHAW getting a push as a top babyface.

FUCK YEAH!