The General Wrestling Thread

[Warner2BruceTD]

Lots of speculation that Tyler Reks has been released, based on his .com profile being moved from 'Superstars' to 'Alumni'.

I like Reks, and have enjoyed his work on the B-shows. I like his tag team with the awesome Curt Hawkins.

I like Reks despite the fact he does a pretty lame Burning Hammer:

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This is how it's done, geek:

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[JimLeavy59]

According to F4WOnline.com, one of the reasons why WWE might be holding Randy Orton back from the title picture on Smackdown is because he is set to leave TV soon in order to film the WWE Studios movie "12 Rounds: Reloaded.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Lots of speculation that Tyler Reks has been released, based on his .com profile being moved from 'Superstars' to 'Alumni'.

I like Reks, and have enjoyed his work on the B-shows. I like his tag team with the awesome Curt Hawkins.

I like Reks despite the fact he does a pretty lame Burning Hammer:

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This is how it's done, geek:

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Reks doesn't even really do a Burning Hammer...its like a reverse DVD.

The Burning Hammer drops a gook right on the back of his neck lol

 

[EmpireWF]

Apparently, Reks asked for his release to spend more time with his kids.

 

[SuperKevin]

He'll be the next member of Aces & 8s

 

[JimLeavy59]

There is currently some major backstage heat on John Cena after what took place at Monday Night Raw yesterday.

For those of you that watched the ending segment of Raw yesterday, you should've noticed John Cena's abrupt departure from the ring after his brief speech on the microphone directed towards CM Punk. That's not what was supposed to happen.

John Cena was supposed to remain in the ring until CM Punk had finished his rebuttal. That's why CM Punk appeared puzzled after Cena suddenly left. The entire segment after that became awkward as Punk had to decide on the spot to return his attention towards Jerry Lawler. That confrontation between him and Lawler was supposed to take place about 5 minutes later than it actually did.

There is word going around backstage that Cena has been very upset lately with his current situation in WWE. The former WWE Champion believes that he puts in a very heavy work load, but doesn't get enough back. It is being said that he wishes to drastically change his character, ring attire and persona in order to adapt to how the audience is reacting to him.

Furthermore, Triple H was said to be furious at Cena once he got backstage, and an arguement broke out between the two. Things have not cooled down just yet. In his defence, John Cena has not had a character change, or even tweak in almost 7 years.

It is unkown if the company will decide to punish him or not. Not going off script to make yourself appear better is considered an unwritten rule for everyone backstage. The source also revealed that Vince McMahon and John Cena will get together to pan things out.

If John Cena truly is upset with his current situation in WWE, it's hard to blame him as it's well documented how much work he really puts in for the company. Fans have been asking for change, and now Cena himself wants it too.

Looks like Johnboy went into business for himself on Monday Night Raw this guy is a prick.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Highest paid guy. Always the main event and featured player.

Why is he upset?

 

[EmpireWF]

Since when did bleacherreport become the original source of inside newz?

 

[JimLeavy59]

Highest paid guy. Always the main event and featured player.

Why is he upset?

I would take this report with a grain of salt but yeah not sure why Cena would be mad, Maybe he means from a pay standpoint?

 

[JimLeavy59]

Since when did bleacherreport become the original source of inside newz?

Hey they got that money now.

 

[Rayman]

Where Are They Now…for that pic
Mideon - No longer wrestling, may be working as a chef in Tampa.

I don't know why, but this made me :yao:

 

[JimLeavy59]

Cena fans are saying that promo on RAW was his best ever :smh:

 

[FedEx227]

I'll wait to see if someone with a bit more credibility reports that.

 

[IamMedellin]

yeah...the only other site reporting that also says Goldberg is coming back to wrestle Taker at Mania...

so yeah...

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I've been saying from the start that they should do a few Gut Checks with established former WWE stars. This way, it looks like former WWE guys are dying to be part of TNA instead of vice versa, and making a big deal out of worthless no talents like Tiffany, ffs.

If somebody like Tyler Reks were to get cut, i'd Gut Check his ass and have Taz or Snow say things like, "This is TNA, where the real talent is, what makes you think you can hang in the number one company in the world?" Instead, they still have this stepchild syndrome, and casual fans pick up on that shit. It's like going on a date, and having no confidence. You aren't getting ass at the end of the night.

And Wes Brisco is definitely the guy with the flowing yellow hair who wears the vest.

After further review...pretty certain that's Cliff Compton.

After another review...it could be either one. Both have their hair died that color and its long.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Looks like Johnboy went into business for himself on Monday Night Raw this guy is a prick.

Unlike CM Punk, who has a legit gripe about never being in a main event, Cena does have a gripe, but is always in the main event, so they should cancel each other out. However, lets take a look at things since WM:

1.) Lose to The Rock at WM. We all knew it was going to happen. However, right after that.......

2.) Lesnar returns, and obliterates Cena each time he sees him. Cena continues to look like a bitch, and in the main event at Extreme Rules, gets run over by Lesnar, yet somehow pulled out the win. Now, no one cares about that match.

3.) Over The Limit comes, where everyone sees Cena in the main event beat the crap out of Big Johnny, yet Big Show comes back and knocks out Cena with his ridiculous finishing move, giving Johnny the win. This starts yet another feud with a super star that sees Cena constantly get knocked around, leading up to......

4.) Cena and Show at No Way Out in a cage match, with the winner deciding Big Johnny's fate. Show again beats the crap out of Cena, only to win with various superstars coming to the ring (lead by none other than Brodus Clay) to prevent Show from leaving the cage. And oh no, there is a near photo finish for who made it out of the cage.

5.) At Money In The Bank, Cena wins the match for the WWE championship title. All well and good, until Raw 1000 comes along, and Cena becomes the only super star to lose the title shot, and it's off of an interference call on Big Show and used as a storyline to push Rock and Punk. So yet again, we see Show and Cena pushed together, this time against the WWE title and Punk, where at SummerSlam

6.) We get an overbooked match, and an interesting finish. And on the next night at Raw, Cena cuts that promo and people are pissed

So yeah, Cena actually has a legit gripe, but since he is ALWAYS in the main event, he should just shut his mouth because he'll get another shot at the title. Yet he is one of the main reasons that the titles don't mean anything anymore, because Cena can still be in the main event without a title, and it's supposed to be the biggest match. And lets be honest, were the main events for Extreme Rules, Over The Limit and No Way Out in any way entertaining from a wrestling perspective? All they served were to advance story lines, except for Extreme Rules. I am still puzzled as to why they booked that the way it happened.

It seems that Cena is going to lose at Night of Champions in his home state, and he's pissed about it. Grow up, especially since he's making the most of everyone in all likelihood. This just proves that they never should have eliminated the amount of titles they have over the years. Gone are a Tag Team championship, Hardcore Championship, Light Heavyweight and Cruiserweight as well as the European Championship. All could be used to get guys over differently than they are now, and give more of an opportunity for guys at all levels to hold a belt.

 

[s@ppisgod]

Cena isn't the only wrestler to lose his title shot. Kennedy lost his to Edge.

 

[IamMedellin]

Cena isn't the only wrestler to lose his title shot. Kennedy lost his to Edge.

Cena is the only one to have ever cashed in the briefcase and not become champion, Kennedy just lost the briefcase...he never got to actually cash in

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Unlike CM Punk, who has a legit gripe about never being in a main event, Cena does have a gripe, but is always in the main event, so they should cancel each other out. However, lets take a look at things since WM:

1.) Lose to The Rock at WM. We all knew it was going to happen. However, right after that.......

2.) Lesnar returns, and obliterates Cena each time he sees him. Cena continues to look like a bitch, and in the main event at Extreme Rules, gets run over by Lesnar, yet somehow pulled out the win. Now, no one cares about that match.

3.) Over The Limit comes, where everyone sees Cena in the main event beat the crap out of Big Johnny, yet Big Show comes back and knocks out Cena with his ridiculous finishing move, giving Johnny the win. This starts yet another feud with a super star that sees Cena constantly get knocked around, leading up to......

4.) Cena and Show at No Way Out in a cage match, with the winner deciding Big Johnny's fate. Show again beats the crap out of Cena, only to win with various superstars coming to the ring (lead by none other than Brodus Clay) to prevent Show from leaving the cage. And oh no, there is a near photo finish for who made it out of the cage.

5.) At Money In The Bank, Cena wins the match for the WWE championship title. All well and good, until Raw 1000 comes along, and Cena becomes the only super star to lose the title shot, and it's off of an interference call on Big Show and used as a storyline to push Rock and Punk. So yet again, we see Show and Cena pushed together, this time against the WWE title and Punk, where at SummerSlam

6.) We get an overbooked match, and an interesting finish. And on the next night at Raw, Cena cuts that promo and people are pissed

So yeah, Cena actually has a legit gripe, but since he is ALWAYS in the main event, he should just shut his mouth because he'll get another shot at the title. Yet he is one of the main reasons that the titles don't mean anything anymore, because Cena can still be in the main event without a title, and it's supposed to be the biggest match. And lets be honest, were the main events for Extreme Rules, Over The Limit and No Way Out in any way entertaining from a wrestling perspective? All they served were to advance story lines, except for Extreme Rules. I am still puzzled as to why they booked that the way it happened.

It seems that Cena is going to lose at Night of Champions in his home state, and he's pissed about it. Grow up, especially since he's making the most of everyone in all likelihood. This just proves that they never should have eliminated the amount of titles they have over the years. Gone are a Tag Team championship, Hardcore Championship, Light Heavyweight and Cruiserweight as well as the European Championship. All could be used to get guys over differently than they are now, and give more of an opportunity for guys at all levels to hold a belt.

I can not agree with this at all.

He jobbed to The Rock at WrestleMania...but was paid back for it by beating Brock Lesnar clean. Ever since, he's been put in middling storylines, sure...but he headlined PPVs with those middling programs.

I dunno if they'll have Punk and Cena at Night of Champions, but they should have Punk beat again. They are at least making some sort of waves by having Punk hold the title for a long time...they should ride it out until the Royal Rumble and hell, I'd have him lose the title to the Rock but come back during the Rumble and have him win the Rumble.

Cena doesn't need pushing...he's already been pushed to the moon and regardless of having the title or being stale as week old bread is the headline guy, title or no title.
Punk could still use some pushing...not a whole lot more...but he could still use some pushing to get him to a Cena-like position.

Also, RE: The Titles...

They have lost all meaning...they should be used as instruments and rewards to the top guys...not as props to help get guys over. Sure, you can use the title to give guys a chance to see if they can take the ball and run with it, but you shouldn't be getting OUTTANOWHERE Money in the Bank cash-ins to give the title to mid-card geeks that can't even get over with a mid-card belt just to try and elevate them to a level they can't get to on their own.

More titles in an already watered down brand is bad news. They are already giving geeks like Santino US Title shots...the US TITLE. The same title that was WCW's mid-card belt...when you got the US Title you were either A) A veteran on the way down being put into a position to elevate a future performer or B) a guy being groomed for the top of the card. Now, its given to the geekiest geeks as a reward for time served as a geek.

The IC Title used to be the WWE's mid-card title and B-show main eventer on the House Show circuit. The title would be given to guys that could work, had a bit of a following, and could give fans good matches night in and night out on the Live Event circuit. Now, its given to guys that they really have no idea what to do with otherwise than give them this belt. You don't see the best workers get this belt anymore these days...you get guys like Cody Rhodes and The Miz.

The Money in the Bank award is now basically a defacto title...same thing they do with the belts is what they do with the briefcase. They bring it around as a sign of a guy that is getting a shot. I'd say the briefcase is more prestigious in the eyes of the workers than a US or IC title.

Imagine if they gave a guy a European title? They might as well wipe their ass with it.

 

[JimLeavy59]

I'll be making a big poster out of this for RAW next hopefully they don't take it.