The OFFICIAL Peyton Manning Sweepstakes thread...

[FirstTimer]

Me: Manning is a prick, who cares?

You..... since you responded to it.

FT: Manning is a prick watch him blow up if the Colts draft Luck.

Never said it.


Still waiting for that source.

:smughard:

 

[FirstTimer]

You forgot to thank God before posting.

 

[EmpireWF]

If Peyton is cleared and requests to play later this month, should the Colts play him?

 

[ThunderHorse]

apparently the fusion finally happened.

Manning is supposed to be open to higher intensity workout now.

idk if this means hes throwing the football yet but it's progress none the less.

 

[Diivox]

To all those saying Irsay wouldn't trade Manning, I refer to exhibit A:

http://fs64sports.blogspot.com/2010/01/1973-colts-trade-johnny-unitas-to.html

Who traded Johnny Unitas to the Chargers? Bob Irsay.

what happened in 1973, with a nearly completely different league (particularly when it comes to the salary cap/free agency), has absolutely no relevence whatsoever to what might happened in 2011 other than "hey, it could happen." It might win you a game of trivial pursuit though.

It could happen that they draft me first overall to play quarterback too. it COULD. This is about as likely as Indianapolis absorbing a 30 million dollar cap hit, or any other team willing to pay that kind of money for Manning. He's damaged goods and the Colts fucked up handing him that kind of money. It doesn't matter what he's done in the past. the fact is he has had to travel outside the country for experimental stem cell surgery that is banned in the US. That's "never playing football again" kinda shit right there, and "Bill Polian is fucking retarded for not putting an injury clause in the contract when he knew Manning was about to go under the knife to prevent PARALYSIS FROM THE NECK DOWN ON THE NEXT HIT HE TAKES."

 

[Diivox]

apparently the fusion finally happened.

Manning is supposed to be open to higher intensity workout now.

idk if this means hes throwing the football yet but it's progress none the less.

I don't beleive that shit for even a second. It's pretty clear the Colts are on a serious PR campaign lately to try to show that there is still some hope for the team. Axing the DC when the Head Coach was already effectively the DC, switching to Orlovsky, and this nonsense where "Peyton has been cleared to potentially increase his work load slightly assuming he responds well" is just a smokescreen to get a few more butts into the seats as the season winds down and as some half hearted attempt to pretend they arent Sucking for Luck (The Colts, being the one team in the league I actually beleive to be doing so) after all the heat they took for not claiming Orton. Indy is a team whose owner speaks pigeon english on twitter on a regular basis. they do care about public perception, and they are just trying to give their fanbase something to cling to.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Your thoughts on Indianapolis public relations aren't unique, you're not alone in that sentiment or line of thought. this was painfully proven in 2009.

as for the coaching changes. Coyer needed to go, Coyer needed to go last year. I find it hard to believe Jim Caldwell, the former Quarterback Coach, is also running the defense, especially seeing as he's an offensive guy but he is the head coach. However if they'd have kept Coyer people would be bitching even more, the guys defensive scheme is a fucking joke (whether that's his fault.. or Bill Polian's, is another debate entirely).

What else is the FO supposed to do? they haven't given us anything to be proud of this year. I would rather hear about Manning possibly being able to play next year as opposed to how Bill Polian believes the strength of our team is the RB position :yao:

 

[Archer]

I don't beleive that shit for even a second. It's pretty clear the Colts are on a serious PR campaign lately to try to show that there is still some hope for the team. Axing the DC when the Head Coach was already effectively the DC, switching to Orlovsky, and this nonsense where "Peyton has been cleared to potentially increase his work load slightly assuming he responds well" is just a smokescreen to get a few more butts into the seats as the season winds down and as some half hearted attempt to pretend they arent Sucking for Luck (The Colts, being the one team in the league I actually beleive to be doing so) after all the heat they took for not claiming Orton. Indy is a team whose owner speaks pigeon english on twitter on a regular basis. they do care about public perception, and they are just trying to give their fanbase something to cling to.

Jim Caldwell is a QB/Offensive coach.

The Colts did put a clause in Manning's contract where they only have to pay part of his contract if he doesn't come back from injury.

Orlovsky is better then Painter.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

The only team that I could believe that would suck for Luck is the Colts though. Remember this is the Irsay family........don't put anything past them, for better or for worse.

The Colts have just invested heavily in weapons for Manning throughout the years on offense that they have neglected the defense. Of course, they have the bookend defensive ends, but there is a lot of money tied to them as well, and Bob Sanders got paid quite a bit off reputation and sat on the IR for a bit. They just need to overhaul the defense this off-season via draft and free agency, and look for some offensive line depth.

Easier said than done, I know.

 

[Archer]

The only team that I could believe that would suck for Luck is the Colts though. Remember this is the Irsay family........don't put anything past them, for better or for worse.

The Colts have just invested heavily in weapons for Manning throughout the years on offense that they have neglected the defense. Of course, they have the bookend defensive ends, but there is a lot of money tied to them as well, and Bob Sanders got paid quite a bit off reputation and sat on the IR for a bit. They just need to overhaul the defense this off-season via draft and free agency, and look for some offensive line depth.

Easier said than done, I know.

I hate this argument.

Freeney, Sanders, Heyden, Brackett, Bethea and Bullitt all got good/great extensions on their contracts... Jerry Hughes was also a first round pick on the D (lol).

They didn't ignore defense at all. They just spent money on mostly average/injury prone defensive players.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

I hate this argument.

Freeney, Sanders, Heyden, Brackett, Bethea and Bullitt all got good/great extensions on their contracts... Jerry Hughes was also a first round pick on the D (lol).

They didn't ignore defense at all. They just spent money on mostly average/injury prone defensive players.

Then I stand corrected. I have not followed the Colts as much- most of my time is spent with the Redskins and the NFC East. Just from my perspective, it looked like more attention was on the offense and not the defense. Sounds like bad personnel moves and drafting then.

 

[Blick]

I hope Manning stays in Indy. I could see the Chiefs trying to get him since they are gigantic pussies when it comes to drafting their own franchise QB. Manning might win a playoff game or two....just enough to make KC's front office think that they can continue their chicken shit plan of attaining QB's for another 20 years with no playoff wins.

CAN'T WAIT! /Bart Scott

 

[Diivox]

I've heard the argument elsewhere that Manning could simply restructure. Do you know what bonus amounts to? a no trade clause. if they try to trade him to Cleveland, he can just be like, nahhh, pay me or cut me.

I was wrong about some of those other things so I apologize for being misinformed, I appreciate you guys not getting dickball about it though.

I still think Peyton never plays another down of football, although, with all the piles of money Indy has thrown at him, I could realistically see him be a perennial "doubtful" while he tries to help Luck out.

 

[Rayman]

The only team that I could believe that would suck for Luck is the Colts though. Remember this is the Irsay family........don't put anything past them, for better or for worse.

The Colts have just invested heavily in weapons for Manning throughout the years on offense that they have neglected the defense. Of course, they have the bookend defensive ends, but there is a lot of money tied to them as well, and Bob Sanders got paid quite a bit off reputation and sat on the IR for a bit. They just need to overhaul the defense this off-season via draft and free agency, and look for some offensive line depth.

Easier said than done, I know.

Goes hand-in-hand with the "weapons for Manning" thing.

There's talent on that unit, but that defense is built to play with a lead.

 

[Hitman]

what happened in 1973, with a nearly completely different league (particularly when it comes to the salary cap/free agency), has absolutely no relevence whatsoever to what might happened in 2011 other than "hey, it could happen." It might win you a game of trivial pursuit though.

It could happen that they draft me first overall to play quarterback too. it COULD. This is about as likely as Indianapolis absorbing a 30 million dollar cap hit, or any other team willing to pay that kind of money for Manning. He's damaged goods and the Colts fucked up handing him that kind of money. It doesn't matter what he's done in the past. the fact is he has had to travel outside the country for experimental stem cell surgery that is banned in the US. That's "never playing football again" kinda shit right there, and "Bill Polian is fucking retarded for not putting an injury clause in the contract when he knew Manning was about to go under the knife to prevent PARALYSIS FROM THE NECK DOWN ON THE NEXT HIT HE TAKES."

It has relevance in the fact that with the NFL nothing is owed to anyone. If an owner or GM decides trading away "the greatest quarterback ever" is in the better interest of the team going forward, they do it. Unitas was considered the best quarterback to ever play in the NFL when he was traded. Peyton Manning is considered the best quarterback to have ever played in the NFL now. Everyone in the NFL is expendable.

These same Colts traded Marshall Faulk in the prime of his career, let Marvin Harrison fade into the ether due to some things that could put the team into a bad light, let Bob Sanders go due to injury issues and hired a muppet to be the head coach. What makes you think they wouldn't let Peyton Manning go too?

 

[SethMode]

It has relevance in the fact that with the NFL nothing is owed to anyone. If an owner or GM decides trading away "the greatest quarterback ever" is in the better interest of the team going forward, they do it. Unitas was considered the best quarterback to ever play in the NFL when he was traded. Peyton Manning is considered the best quarterback to have ever played in the NFL now. Everyone in the NFL is expendable.

These same Colts traded Marshall Faulk in the prime of his career, let Marvin Harrison fade into the ether due to some things that could put the team into a bad light, let Bob Sanders go due to injury issues and hired a muppet to be the head coach. What makes you think they wouldn't let Peyton Manning go too?

Please refrain from insulting the Muppets.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Archie Manning believes Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck do not want to be teammates on the Colts next season.
Luck has participated in the Manning Family's passing camp. His father, Oliver, was a teammate of Archie's, so the families may have already touched base on the possibility. Despite team president Bill Polian's comments to the contrary, the Indianapolis Star's Bob Kravitz has been insistent that Manning and Luck won't be together in Indy next season. It's quite possible that Manning and the Colts could be headed toward a divorce.

 

[MrBill]

Archie Manning believes Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck do not want to be teammates on the Colts next season.
Luck has participated in the Manning Family's passing camp. His father, Oliver, was a teammate of Archie's, so the families may have already touched base on the possibility. Despite team president Bill Polian's comments to the contrary, the Indianapolis Star's Bob Kravitz has been insistent that Manning and Luck won't be together in Indy next season. It's quite possible that Manning and the Colts could be headed toward a divorce.

I have figured that all along. Peyton doesn't want to have a first round QB, much less the 1st overall pick, sitting on the bench behind him in Indianapolis when he feels he still has 5 years left anymore than Favre did with Rodgers in Green Bay.

 

[mgoblue2290]

I'd give up Stafford for Peyton as long as he's healthy.

 

[Tailback U]

On Mike and Mike this morning, Adam Schefter said he thinks the Colts will release Manning and draft Luck since nobody will take that contract.

What a bummer to not get anything for him even, terrible move by the Colts to give him that contract when he's had neck issues for a while now.