[ALL] Why Do People Hate EA?

[wingsfan77]

Pretty interesting article, what are your guys thoughts?

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/14/why-do-people-hate-ea

 

[Houston]

Poor customer service.

 

[SethMode]

I have often wondered this myself. I don't play Madden anymore, so that's never really been something that has been on my radar but I would guess that it's part of it? Also, RPG nerds are some of the worst internet people in the world. EA acquiring Bioware pissed some people off to no end, particularly after Bioware started making its RPGs more streamlined and accessible.

I personally think that EA is a great company overall that has had some growing pains, but in the end has a lot of money and a lot of the right ideas for smaller developers. They are always considered the bad guy any time that they iterate while "heroes" like Blizzard have been making the same fucking game for almost my entire lifespan.

 

[SethMode]

Also, these two quotes were my personal favorites:

Moore says, “There is this underlying belief in a lot of gamers that games shouldn't be profitable enterprises. I try and sit down with people as much as I can and explain what it takes to make a video game and how much capital investment it takes. We employ over 9,000 people. We invest over a billion dollars a year in R&D, most of which doesn't see revenue until the following year, or in some instances, the year after that. And so you've constantly got to be making money to reinvest money to make great games.”

And:

But EA makes many of the biggest and best games that we play. And it employs some of the smartest people in gaming. So although EA deserves to be analyzed and scrutinized and criticized, it’s weird and it’s unjust that -- so often -- we see this company portrayed as something that’s purely malevolent.

 

[PP]

because they buy exclusive licenses and make shitty games. If the games were not shitty, lazily developed, and had features the fans wanted then there would be no problem.

 

[SethMode]

because they buy exclusive licenses and make shitty games. If the games were not shitty, lazily developed, and had features the fans wanted then there would be no problem.

Did you read the article? Because this post sounds like you're just talking about sports games.

EA has produced many, many, MANY quality games this generation.

 

[jaxjaggywires]

The same reason Microsoft is vilified...they've got a rep of the big, bad bully. Somehow Apple still has the upstart, fresh look locked up, even though they are the biggest damn tech company in the world.

 

[FedEx227]

Their DLC (typically on-disc, day 1 DLC) is really a slap in the face to consumers.

 

[Swarley]

Like Seth was mentioning, most of this hatred just comes from seeing the laziness of EA Sports, and people then think it's how all of EA runs. Outside of EA Sports, they're games have usually been top notch

 

[SethMode]

Their DLC (typically on-disc, day 1 DLC) is really a slap in the face to consumers.

Typically? What are you referring to? Mass Effect 3 is the only game that comes to mind for me, and even that is rumored. Not like we're talking about Capcom here.

And I refuse to consider day 1, on disc DLC, a slap in the face to consumers anyway, because it's DLC. Consumers are still getting a full game.

 

[Maynard]

i only hate them for what they did to the NFL/NCAA football series. Those contracts have got to go. But you cant fault them for doing that, just like you cant fault them for the online pass or the day 1 dlc. they are a business and they have to come up with new ways to make money. And they have done so. They may piss off some people, but as long as they put out the great games (and they do have alot of great games) they will be just fine as far as their fans are concerned.

 

[BigBucs]

Because it has taken them nearly a decade to start to scratch the surface on some shit 2k/visual concepts was able to do years ago. Because Fight Night is a mockery of the sport of boxing.

Unfortunately EA is slightly different, and this is the second reason for the hate. EA is theonly company where you can buy Madden. Mass Effect, Battlefield, Need For Speed. Those games all have competitors...

:wtf2:

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Typically? What are you referring to? Mass Effect 3 is the only game that comes to mind for me, and even that is rumored. Not like we're talking about Capcom here.

And I refuse to consider day 1, on disc DLC, a slap in the face to consumers anyway, because it's DLC. Consumers are still getting a full game.

When you cut a character from a game, but still add them to DLC for first-day launch, is that really a full game?

 

[padman59]

Without having read the article yet, here are what I see as the reasons people hate EA, and you don't have to look much farther than the 4chan or reddit gaming boards to see the evidence.

It depends on which angle you look at EA. EA Sports is disliked because of how franchises like Madden and NCAA Football were subpar products at the beginning of this current generation of consoles, and it's taken quite a few years to arguably get back to the standard where they were on PS2/Xbox. I completely understand the outrage here.

Then there's Origin. Steam and Valve are beloved by the PC gaming community, and when EA had to pull games from Steam because they wanted to handle DLC transactions through Origin, it pissed off a lot of those gamers. On top of that, there was an overblown cry about Origin being spyware based on their EULA and that it searched the hard drive for games to add to the Origin library upon setup. What people forget or ignore is the fact that other services like Steam have similar EULAs, and Steam's service was also bad when it first launched.

Day one DLC is the another monster, and to my knowledge there hasn't been many EA games with said DLC on the disc. Mass Effect 3 had some of the From Ashes assets because BioWare had to abandon it in order to make their deadline. Personally, I don't much care one way or the other about day one DLC as long as it's not entirely on the disc (*cough* Capcom *cough*), and while I would have liked to see BioWare push back the release date for ME3 so they could put out a more polished and complete game, I can see why EA had them push it out with a Fall 2012 lineup that looked like it was going to be packed.

There's also a dislike based on EA's acquisition and closing of studios like Bullfrog and Westwood.

 

[SethMode]

When you cut a character from a game, but still add them to DLC for first-day launch, is that really a full game?

Yes. You can play Mass Effect 3 and get the full experience without the Jamaican Prothean. Does it add to it? Yes. Just like all DLC adds to the experience. I didn't know what happened to Jensen while he was in Cryo-sleep in Deus Ex: The Human Revolution, but that doesn't mean that the release of "The Missing Link" makes the game any less complete.

And as Pad alluded to, the full DLC wasn't on the disc, just parts were to make the deadline. I never understood the big deal about that.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Yes. You can play Mass Effect 3 and get the full experience without the Jamaican Prothean. Does it add to it? Yes. Just like all DLC adds to the experience. I didn't know what happened to Jensen while he was in Cryo-sleep in Deus Ex: The Human Revolution, but that doesn't mean that the release of "The Missing Link" makes the game any less complete.

And as Pad alluded to, the full DLC wasn't on the disc, just parts were to make the deadline. I never understood the big deal about that.

It doesn't matter, it was still released Day 1. In the past, you put the date off because the game wouldn't be completed. I also paid for it, because I wanted the complete game experience. No way was I passing that up. However, it still irks me to have to pay for it, because it wasn't like it was released months or a year later.

 

[SethMode]

It doesn't matter, it was still released Day 1. In the past, you put the date off because the game wouldn't be completed. I also paid for it, because I wanted the complete game experience. No way was I passing that up. However, it still irks me to have to pay for it, because it wasn't like it was released months or a year later.

I don't understand. You're mad because you paid for it, but there isn't a scenario where you wouldn't pay for it? What do you want them to do? Give it to you for free despite the fact that it cost them money to make it?

 

[1ke]

I dont hate EA. I hate EA Sports. Too many times things have been said, and shit has been broken.

 

[PEYMAN18]

lol it's ign..

I wonder how much ea payed for this article..

 

[SethMode]

lol it's ign..

I wonder how much ea payed for this article..

So basically, despite the fact that good points are raised all around, the moral is, that EA can't win. Yes?