Why Oklahoma State is more deserving of a title shot than Bama

[FirstTimer]

God help us.

That's enough of a reason not to have them face LSU right there.

 

[1ke]

Im not reading all 14 pages. But Bama had their shot at home and failed to score a TD.

Okie St lost on the road on a Friday after a plane crash killed Okie St staff members.

If LSU and Bama play, i wont watch.

 

[Sportsbuck]

Are Alabama fans this dumb/delusional NAHSTE?

You should see the one arguing for Alabama on OS.

 

[FirstTimer]

You should see the one arguing for Alabama on OS.

:thebigone:

 

[KNUBB]

Gumps are funny

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

In for a Doubledeuce butthurt groan, HOW DARE YOU SAY ALABAMA DOESN'T DESERVE IT?

Honestly, give a conference champion a fucking shot, one of the top offenses can play one of the top defenses, I still believe LSU would win, but wtf let them play somebody new.

 

[The Buddha]

So how clear was it really?

About as clear as LSU and Alabama being the undisputed #1 and #2 this year.
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[NAHSTE]

So how clear was it really?

It certainly wasn't crystal clear.

 

 

[shag773]

In 66, #1 and #2 tied. Who do you give the championship to? You give it to the undefeated, untied Alabama Crimson Tide.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

bama:

No it hasn't been.

LSU beating Alabama doesn't conclusivly prove that they are the better team. One game. Anything can happen. It just means based on what we have seen LSU is the better team. You have to accept that result and move on. In the end we are looking for a conclusion to the season. LSU vs Bama serves no purpose because if LSU wins: Previous conclusion confirmed. If Alabama wins...no conclusion at all. Split. Ok st lost to Iowa St. Ok. Accept result and move on. OK St also has much more impressive wins than Bama does. You have to accept those results as well and move on.Ok St's wins more than do enough to mak eup for the loss to Iowa St in relation to Bama's resume. That's what is being said.

Also the context of LSU>Bama was ralaw saying "What if the two best teams are in the best conference?" Well, what if they aren't? That's the point. We haven't seen Ok st and Bama play. You have to start comparing resumes. You can conclude as best you can that LSU>Bama based on the field results. Working for a conclusion to the season if LSU beats Bama again the conclusion is confirmed. If Bama wins then it's split LSU=Bama..but Ok St is still really damn good and has a better resume than Bama in many people's minds so if that's true...then if Ok St could be better than Bama they could be better than LSU if Bama beat LSU.

Ok St obviously has an argument..and a stronger one than Alabama if they win Saturday. OK St beating LSU, who beat Alabama would be a strong enough conclusion for most anyone with a brain stem. If LSU wins no one else really ahas an argument...except Houston I guess...and we've been through that before with Boise and Utah.

Incorrect. If Alabama wins, they are national champs.

You cant eliminate Alabama based on their loss to LSU, otherwise Okla State would also be eliminated based on their loss to Iowa State.

You can make the case that Okla State has beaten more good teams than Alabama has, and im not denying nor agreeing with that, but that really is just guessing & assuming that the Big-12 is pretty good...which is the inherent flaw with college football, we really dont know how good each conference is, nor do we have much evidence to compare the conferences until the bowl games start playing out...which is why the system sucks.

Personally, (if i wasnt rooting for bcs chaos) id rather see Okla State play LSU, only because of the fact id like them to have a chance to beat LSU, like Alabama did...but i believe Alabama is the better & more deserving team of the #2 spot, because i think the big-12 is overrated.

 

[shag773]

Incorrect. If Alabama wins, they are national champs.

I don't think he was saying that. His point is if Alabama and LSU plays again, it would re-affirm what was already known or raise more questions in the mind of the public. Obviously if Bama and LSU plays in the NC game the winner is crowned the NC.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

I don't think he was saying that. His point is if Alabama and LSU plays again, it would re-affirm what was already known or raise more questions in the mind of the public. Obviously if Bama and LSU plays in the NC game the winner is crowned the NC.

I know, and IMO it shouldnt raise any questions if Alabama wins. Just like there would be no questions if Okla State plays LSU and wins. No one would say "well they lost to Iowa State".

 

[kyhadley]

The point is that LSU has already proved themselves once on-the-field to be better than Alabama by beating them, so we know that LSU is better. Oklahoma State has not had the chance to prove themselves to be better/worse than LSU because they haven't played them. That is why the elimination argument works for Alabama with LSU, and not Ok St with Iowa State, the circumstances are entirely different.

Especially considering the fact that Oklahoma State has a more impressive resume, why should Alabama get another chance to play LSU when Ok St hasn't got one?

 

[ZoneBlitz]

The point is that LSU has already proved themselves once on-the-field to be better than Alabama by beating them, so we know that LSU is better. Oklahoma State has not had the chance to prove themselves to be better/worse than LSU because they haven't played them. That is why the elimination argument works for Alabama with LSU, and not Ok St with Iowa State, the circumstances are entirely different.

Especially considering the fact that Oklahoma State has a more impressive resume, why should Alabama get another chance to play LSU when Ok St hasn't got one?

But the BCS is designed to put #1 vs #2...its not designed to create the matchup people would rather see & avoid rematches.

And like someone stated earlier, one of Okla State's wins was a 1-point win against a 6-6 Texas A&M team, while Alabama has destroyed everyone in their wins.

 

[kyhadley]

But the BCS is designed to put #1 vs #2...its not designed to create the matchup people would rather see & avoid rematches.

And like someone stated earlier, one of Okla State's wins was a very narrow win against a 6-6 Texas A&M team, while Alabama has destroyed everyone.

You've completely, utterly missed my point. I don't know how to explain it any better than I just did so I'd suggest reading my previous post again, maybe this time a bit slower.

 

[NAHSTE]

But the BCS is designed to put #1 vs #2...its not designed to create the matchup people would rather see & avoid rematches.

And like someone stated earlier, one of Okla State's wins was a 1-point win against a 6-6 Texas A&M team, while Alabama has destroyed everyone in their wins.

The BCS is comprised of 1/3 computer polls, and 2/3 human polls. The "BCS" portion of the BCS sides with Oklahoma State. The idiot voters fell for the GAME OF THE CENTURY THESE ARE THE TWO BEST TEAMS narrative and did not drop Alabama enough after their home loss, and now are stuck with egg on their face as they are the last team standing.

I don't think that is the most precise way to determine that they are the second best team.

 

[Irish]

LSU fans, what opponent would worry you more in the national championship, Bama or Oklahoma State?

 

[NAHSTE]

LSU fans, what opponent would worry you more in the national championship, Bama or Oklahoma State?

Neither. They both present their own problems but neither really scares me. We know what we're getting with Bama, neither team is going to have any real surprises, it's like fighting your twin brother. But this season LSU is just as physical and even deeper than Alabama. As for Okie State, their offense is tough but they have never seen a defense this good and that will be on them to adjust. Great defense usually beats great offense in the end.

 

[Irish]

Neither.

If you had to pick.

 

[NAHSTE]

If you had to pick.

Expanded on my previous post. Gun to my head, I'd rather not play Alabama only because it's hard to beat the same team twice.