The General Wrestling Thread

[FedEx227]

I feel like we've been asking SHOGUN this question for like 2 years now...

[Warner2BruceTD]

So i'm skimming through RAW, and stop to watch the Tyson Kidd/Mark Henry match.

In typical WWE fashion, Henry, the veteran who is not getting pushed and draws nothing when he does, essentially squashes Kidd, the young fresh face who just turned heel and could use some momentum. Why?

So then, the big stiff who manages Kidd gets in the ring, and has a staredown with Henry. I'm thinking to myself, ok, I see what they are doing, Kidd will lose the matches, but they want to push the stiff, so the stiff will play bully and beat up the guys who beat Kidd. In my world, i'd give Kidd the push, but hey, they like big men, so at least someone can get some rub by beating up Henry.

BUT THEN, Henry proceeds to destroy the big stiff, too.

What sense does this make? Now Kidd and the big stiff look like goofs, getting beat up two on one by the mid carder, who isnt getting pushed. Who does this benefit? Why do they do this?

Baffling.

Its like I always say, Vince is a billionaire who has left millions on the table with awful, awful booking decisions. I wonder how many guys could have gotten over, but never did, due to dumb shit like the above.

Meanwhile, 70 year old Jerry Lawler is getting the biggest babyface push on the show.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Kaval (Brandon Silvestry, 31) was released from his contract on 12/23. He was never really a good fit here because he had too much of a Japanese style, and while he was able to get over with the public, he couldn’t get over with the people in charge. Guys who have had success elsewhere always have a difficult time here because of the perception than any success elsewhere doesn’t count, and at times, is actually held against you. In his case, you combine that with his size, and it’s a double whammy. He was originally signed at the end of 2008 while he was IWGP jr. champion in Japan. The idea was to use him as a masked wrestler to feud with Mysterio. While getting ready for a call-up, he blew out his knee and was out for nine months after surgery. By that time, people forgot about that program and he was left in developmental. He was then brought up for NXT season two to be in the Bryan Danielson role, the guy for Michael Cole (basically the office voice due to frustration with what they perceive as Internet fans) rips on for being too small and having no charisma (even though he had more charisma than anyone else that season). They kept beating him on the show and he kept being voted on as the top guy by the fans, won the show, and was immediately jobbed out. I really have no idea why the company does fan voting on those shows because it leads to things making no sense. They job a guy out for three straight months but they’ve taught fans winning and losing doesn’t count, so they still vote the guy in. Then they jobbed him some more, and in a sense, wasted a tag of winning the season that could have helped someone they had plans for, and instead just made them look vindictive for having a guy the fans chose and then having the doctrine he’s being jobbed out because he wasn’t who they wanted. Creative was told to job him, which they did, until the decision was made, because of the NXT deal where he was supposed to get a shot, to build him up for one shot on PPV with Ziggler. Since then, creative was told to continue to job him and he got frustrated and wanted out. After he lost to McIntyre on the 12/21 live Smackdown, the story we got is that he asked if he had any heat and was told he didn’t. Then he asked if there were any future plans for him, and he was told that they had no ideas or plans with him, so he asked for his release and they agreed to it. It’s going to be difficult for him because of how the landscape of wrestling has changed in the past two years. There isn’t the money in working indies as there was, nor is there the money working Japan that there was, even a couple of years ago. He should get a decent amount of bookings coming off WWE television. Things weren’t smooth sailing in TNA, but the guy is very talented. New Japan liked him but they have Davey Richards in his position as the great working foreign junior heavyweight. NOAH has financial issues right now. As Low Ki, he has signed for a match on 3/5 in Ronkonkoma, NY, against Davey Richards.

Thought i'd share

[Warner2BruceTD]

double post

[IamMedellin]

at least he prolly tapped Layla

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOFnnZVemOw[/ame]

[Kuzzy Powers]

at least he prolly tapped Layla

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOFnnZVemOw

Kaval isnt DASHING enough to hit that.

[SHOGUN]

That's an interesting bit from Meltzer and the Tyson Kidd/Big Guy/Mark Henry bit made zero sense to me as well. They pretty much shit on the whole premise before it got out of the starting gates. Kidd was finally talking and doing heelish shit aside from that smuggish smile thing he does.

At what point did professional wrestling essentially drop the emphasis on wins and losses?

[IamMedellin]

Kaval isnt DASHING enough to hit that.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf9S4Dk9TTY[/ame]

[EmpireWF]

That's an interesting bit from Meltzer and the Tyson Kidd/Big Guy/Mark Henry bit made zero sense to me as well. They pretty much shit on the whole premise before it got out of the starting gates. Kidd was finally talking and doing heelish shit aside from that smuggish smile thing he does.

At what point did professional wrestling essentially drop the emphasis on wins and losses?

WWE did it about ten years back.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf9S4Dk9TTY

GOAT theme right now in the E.

So Def Leppard it makes me lose a hand.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Kaval isnt DASHING enough to hit that.

Layla is quite teh whore. A hot whore, but a whore nonetheless.

[IamMedellin]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2rYG3CCsKw[/ame]

[JayDizzle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2rYG3CCsKw

http://www.vsndaily.com/showpost.php?p=1654041&postcount=3426

I thinking it's a rousing vote for this to be the new Nexus theme.

[JayDizzle]

So... Wade Barrett's on SmackDown after being merked by CM Punk on RAW.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bby_g2nBeGQ"]This was like... a week ago, maybe?[/ame]

Now Barrett's pissing off Big Show like an idiot.

Also...


A WILD HARDY HAS APPEARED!

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

wtf is up with his hair?

btw - the Hardy's should be themselves and be a drugged up degenerate tag team. Matt Hardy's valet should be some skank that purposely dresses as Lita.

btw2 - on another site, I was told Jeff Jarrett is doing an MMA gimmick. Please tell me it is as bad as it sounds lol.