Andrew Luck

[Realist]

It's still early but I've been very impressed with him

 

[RosettaStoned]

Rotoworld says Andrew Luck is already a top 15 NFL QB.

Is this true of false?

Andrew Luck looks great to me. I really enjoyed watching him play the Steelers.

Uh no. He hasn't even played a real game yet ffs.

 

[FirstTimer]

Worst QB ever

 

[ralaw]

Rotoworld says Andrew Luck is already a top 15 NFL QB.

Is this true of false?

Andrew Luck looks great to me. I really enjoyed watching him play the Steelers.

I agree. I'd take him over at least 20 NFL Qb's right now. It sort of reminds me of LeBron James came into the league and it was obvious that he was an extremelly talented player that just needed time. In a few years I expect the debate fr the best QB in the league to be between Aaron Rodgers and Andrew Luck.

 

[FirstTimer]

I agree. I'd take him over at least 20 NFL Qb's right now. It sort of reminds me of LeBron James came into the league and it was obvious that he was an extremelly talented player that just needed time. In a few years I expect the debate fr the best QB in the league to be between Aaron Rodgers and Andrew Luck.

:smh:

 

[Senser81]

 

[ralaw]

Don't be the "oh, it's just the preason" guy.........Luck is going to be great. Much like LeBron James he will live up to and exceed the predraft hype.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Don't be the "oh, it's just the preason" guy.........Luck is going to be great. Much like LeBron James he will live up to and exceed the predraft hype.

But it is just the preseason. So my caring level on a 100 point scale is somewhere around 10. Maybe 20 since he's a rookie. I wasn't paying attention to Cavs vs Bucks exhibition action in 2003, either.

I don't think the idea of people saying "it's just the preseason" is to knock or deny Luck's ability. I think the idea is that people don't feel like a screen pass in a preseason game should be big time news.

 

[Aso]

W2B, the way i see it your last sentence pretty much did diminish his preseason work and ability imo. Bottling it all up to a screen pass...? C'mon man.

He started awful vs the Steelers. First 3 drives, 0 points, 2/8 for 16 yards and a pick 6 to Ike Taylor.

He then turned that around on his final 3 drives going 14/17 leading his team to 2 TD's and 1 FG.

The Steelers were not playing a "vanilla" defense either. They were bringing classic Dick Lebeau zone blitzes at him.

 

[JimLeavy59]

W2B, the way i see it your last sentence pretty much did diminish his preseason work and ability imo. Bottling it all up to a screen pass...? C'mon man.

He started awful vs the Steelers. First 3 drives, 0 points, 2/8 for 16 yards and a pick 6 to Ike Taylor.

He then turned that around on his final 3 drives going 14/17 leading his team to 2 TD's and 1 FG.

The Steelers were not playing a "vanilla" defense either. They were bringing classic Dick Lebeau zone blitzes at him.

 

[NAHSTE]

But it is just the preseason. So my caring level on a 100 point scale is somewhere around 10. Maybe 20 since he's a rookie. I wasn't paying attention to Cavs vs Bucks exhibition action in 2003, either.

You mean ESPN wasn't running Vegas Summer League highlights in A-block? Huh, weird.

 

[ram29jackson]

most ex NFL QBs find him to be the real deal..thats a good enough evaluation to me...so far

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

W2B, the way i see it your last sentence pretty much did diminish his preseason work and ability imo. Bottling it all up to a screen pass...? C'mon man.

He started awful vs the Steelers. First 3 drives, 0 points, 2/8 for 16 yards and a pick 6 to Ike Taylor.

He then turned that around on his final 3 drives going 14/17 leading his team to 2 TD's and 1 FG.

The Steelers were not playing a "vanilla" defense either. They were bringing classic Dick Lebeau zone blitzes at him.

But I wasn't talking about the Steeler game. I was talking about the Rams game the week before, which was the lead story on SportsCenter, on a loaded sports day, because "OMG ANDREW LUCK THREW A TD ON HIS FIRST PASS"....which was a screen pass that traveled about two yards in the air.

I don't even think that's news, let alone gigantic lead story news on a loaded Sunday. I mean, it's a quirky footnote or something I guess, idk.

 

[RosettaStoned]

Don't be the "oh, it's just the preason" guy.........Luck is going to be great. Much like LeBron James he will live up to and exceed the predraft hype.

Football is not baskeball. A lot of factors go into a qb playing well that aren't in his control.

 

[Hasselbeck]

But I wasn't talking about the Steeler game. I was talking about the Rams game the week before, which was the lead story on SportsCenter, on a loaded sports day, because "OMG ANDREW LUCK THREW A TD ON HIS FIRST PASS"....which was a screen pass that traveled about two yards in the air.

I don't even think that's news, let alone gigantic lead story news on a loaded Sunday. I mean, it's a quirky footnote or something I guess, idk.

I think it was his whole body of work that day, not just a 2 yard screen pass.

And I think ESPN does some stupid ass shit now, but Andrew Luck's first pro game is probably a bigger deal to the casual sports fan than August baseball, Rory McIlroy and NASCAR.

:kanye:

 

[Camby23Land]

Trying to call him a top 15 quarterback when he hasn't played a game in the NFL is absolutely laughable. I don't care how good he's looked in preseason, how great he was in college, how hyped he was coming into the NFL draft, how many people say he's a can't miss prospect, etc. etc. he still hasn't seen an NFL defense yet. Preseason is a joke, and Colts fans of all people should know that - going 0-4 then winning a Super Bowl a few years back.

I will take Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Andy Dalton, Jay Cuntler, Joe Flacco, Matt Schaub, Cam Newton, Mike Vick, Matt Ryan, Tony Romo, Phillip Rivers, Peyton Manning, Matt Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger, and Eli Manning over Andrew Luck to start on my team next season without a second thought. Why? Because I know what I'm getting (aside from with Peyton Manning, but still), they don't need to adjust to the NFL and are more experienced. There's no sure thing in the NFL and just because we saw last year rookie quarterbacks tearing shit up with Cam Newton and Andy Dalton doesn't mean we will this year with Andrew Luck.

And before anybody comes after me, I think Andrew Luck will be a successful and has the tools to be an all-time great, but I'm not going to say he's a top 15 QB before he steps foot into the league.

 

[Influence]

Preseason is a joke, and Colts fans of all people should know that - going 0-4 then winning a Super Bowl a few years back.

We're not evaluating the Colt's preseason record, we're evaluating a rookie quarterback's debut to the NFL. I've watched all 3 exibition games, and Luck has looked pretty fucking impressive. You could argue that preseason games don't matter/count, or that the players don't play as hard, but everyone he has faced are professional football players. You can still evaluate him to a certain extent.

 

[Camby23Land]

We're not evaluating the Colt's preseason record, we're evaluating a rookie quarterback's debut to the NFL. I've watched all 3 exibition games, and Luck has looked pretty fucking impressive. You could argue that preseason games don't matter/count, or that the players don't play as hard, but everyone he has faced are professional football players. You can still evaluate him to a certain extent.

Professional football players in a meaningless game. Established starters aren't going to try and are going to play cautious. And evaluating what he did late in the game like people have been doing (started off terrible, finished with three drives for 17 points) is even worse because the opposing defense is playing guys low on the depth chart. All I am saying is you can't tell what a player, or a team, will do in the regular season based off what they do in the preseason. It's made for the NFL/teams to make more money by selling tickets at regular season prices and for coaches to decide where to put guys on the depth chart (so yes you get non-starters playing their heart out, but they also aren't starting at the time for a reason).

 

[ralaw]

I will take Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Andy Dalton, Jay Cuntler, Joe Flacco, Matt Schaub, Cam Newton, Mike Vick, Matt Ryan, Tony Romo, Phillip Rivers, Peyton Manning, Matt Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger, and Eli Manning

I'm not going to say he's a top 15 QB before he steps foot into the league.

Not top 15, but maybe top 17. :Yao:

 

[Camby23Land]

Yes, I would take half the NFL's starting quarterbacks over him next season.