Big News on The Bears:

[Woy]

Cower said he would be "very intrested" in Chicago and Houston today according to a source on NFL.COM .

Will Chicago give Lovie the 11mill he's owed plus Cowers 5-10mil contract? Would be very unlike the Bears of recent years

Wouldn't want to see the bolded happen. Cowher might actually get Houston over the hump!

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

If Chicago were 7-3, and Jay Cutler had Kurt Warner's number - Chicago fans would be calling for MVP.

Still no mention for Warner, though... But the season isn't over yet.

Just sayin'.

Trade us Larry Fitz, Anquan Boldin, and Steve Breaston for Devin Hester, Earl Bennet, and Johnny Knox, then get back to me on the records.

Just saying..

 

[FedEx227]

11 million? What's Lovie's current contract? Sounds like a really bad investment.

He's one of the higher paid coaches in the league and still has a year left on his deal. So yeah, they would have to pay Lovie the $11 million plus pay the new big hire a comparable contract.

I have no doubt after next year they replace him but I think Lovie stays through this year and next.

 

[Nukleopatra]

Trade us Larry Fitz, Anquan Boldin, and Steve Breaston for Devin Hester, Earl Bennet, and Johnny Knox, then get back to me on the records.

Just saying..

Those two guys would flourish with Kurt Warner. The speed alone, and perfectly placed passes by Kurt Warner, I have no doubt in my mind, that both guys could be 1,000 yard WRs in Arizona, with Warner. Not as talented as Fitzgerald/Boldin, but with a guy like Kurt Warner, you don't have to be all that talented.

You put Kurt Warner in Chicago last night, and he hits both of those passes for touchdowns.

Lol @ thinking a WR will make Jay Cutler a winner... I guess Denver's WRs blew ass, too.

 

[1ke]

Those two guys would flourish with Kurt Warner. The speed alone, and perfectly placed passes by Kurt Warner, I have no doubt in my mind, that both guys could be 1,000 yard WRs in Arizona, with Warner. Not as talented as Fitzgerald/Boldin, but with a guy like Kurt Warner, you don't have to be all that talented.

You put Kurt Warner in Chicago last night, and he hits both of those passes for touchdowns.

Lol @ thinking a WR will make Jay Cutler a winner... I guess Denver's WRs blew ass, too.

:smh::smh::smh:

Damn Nuk dont this ever get old.

 

[FedEx227]

Those two guys would flourish with Kurt Warner. The speed alone, and perfectly placed passes by Kurt Warner, I have no doubt in my mind, that both guys could be 1,000 yard WRs in Arizona, with Warner. Not as talented as Fitzgerald/Boldin, but with a guy like Kurt Warner, you don't have to be all that talented.

You put Kurt Warner in Chicago last night, and he hits both of those passes for touchdowns.

Lol @ thinking a WR will make Jay Cutler a winner... I guess Denver's WRs blew ass, too.

No, but they are arguably both below average WR in the NFL. Fitzgerald and Boldin while likely helped by Warner are still well above average NFL receivers.

I mean Devin Hester is their number one and he barely understands 90% of the playbook. You can't audible him, he pretty much can only run fly routes or be the primary option on a pass play or he's worthless.

 

[Nukleopatra]

No, but they are arguably both below average WR in the NFL. Fitzgerald and Boldin while likely helped by Warner are still well above average NFL receivers.

I mean Devin Hester is their number one and he barely understands 90% of the playbook. You can't audible him, he pretty much can only run fly routes or be the primary option on a pass play or he's worthless.

One of the finer posts of the night.

''Well above average.''

Exactly.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Those two guys would flourish with Kurt Warner. The speed alone, and perfectly placed passes by Kurt Warner, I have no doubt in my mind, that both guys could be 1,000 yard WRs in Arizona, with Warner. Not as talented as Fitzgerald/Boldin, but with a guy like Kurt Warner, you don't have to be all that talented.

You put Kurt Warner in Chicago last night, and he hits both of those passes for touchdowns.

Lol @ thinking a WR will make Jay Cutler a winner... I guess Denver's WRs blew ass, too.

98% of starting QBs hit those passes. 75% of back-up QBs hit those passes.

Kurt Warner is going to stop Devin Hester from dropping passes and slipping during his route running? Noone is denying Kurt Warner is better then Jay Cutler, but to act as if Warner doesnt benefit from the talent around him is obviously painfully moronic.

The best part is you dont even believe it yourself, you've just become so wrapped up in this shtick that you have to hold it till you die, even if it means going against what you believe as a human being.

 

[Nukleopatra]

98% of starting QBs hit those passes.

Kurt Warner is going to stop Devin Hester from dropping passes and slipping during his route running? Noone is denying Kurt Warner is better then Jay Cutler, but to act as if Warner doesnt benefit from the talent around him is obviously moronic.

The best part is you dont even believe it yourself, you've just become so wrapped up in this shtick that you have to hold it till you die, even if it means going against what you believe as a human being.

Yes, I honestly do believe that without Kurt Warner, that so called ''talent'' around him, will go back to being a below .500 football team. The so-called talent around him, benefits from having a hall of famer under center (Kurt Warner.)

And yes, when he does retire, and Arizona, and all that ''talent'' goes back to below .500 - You guys are going to get a triple dose of my so-called schtick. Just imagine my anti-Drew Brees schtick x 5. Because, I fucking despise Arizona, and I cannot wait until they fall apart..... after Warner leaves.

Larry Fitzgerald isn't good enough to do a fucking thing about it either. Below .500, mark my words.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

One of the finer posts of the night.

''Well above average.''

Exactly.

He was appeasing your ego.

Larry Fitzgerald would still be a Pro Bowler with Jay Cutler throwing him the ball. Ask Brandon Marshall.

 

[FedEx227]

One of the finer posts of the night.

''Well above average.''

Exactly.

Well above average is pretty good, btw. Take average. Then go above that. Then go well above that. That = good.

Fitz is still one of the top 5-6 WR in the game.

 

[Nukleopatra]

Well above average is pretty good, btw.

Larry Fitzgerald is a pretty good WR, no question.

He's top 5.... right now.

He won't be top 5 after two years, though.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Yes, I honestly do believe that without Kurt Warner, that so called ''talent'' around him, will go back to being a below .500 football team. The so-called talent around him, benefits from having a hall of famer under center (Kurt Warner.)

And yes, when he does retire, and Arizona, and all that ''talent'' goes back to below .500 - You guys are going to get a triple dose of my so-called schtick. Just imagine my anti-Drew Brees schtick x 5. Because, I fucking despise Arizona, and I cannot wait until they fall apart..... after Warner leaves.

Larry Fitzgerald isn't good enough to do a fucking thing about it either. Below .500, mark my words.

If Matt Leinart is their QB you very well may be right. If they can get someone competent to throw the ball, they'll be fine. You defend Warner as if people dont give the guy credit, which is ridiculous.. because everyone knows Kurt Warner is great. Now ask Kurt if he believes his receivers are great. Surely you wouldnt disagree with Warner's opinion on his own team, would you Mrs. Warner?

 

[FedEx227]

He must have done a mean job bagging Nuk's groceries many eons ago.

 

[1ke]

He was appeasing your ego.

Larry Fitzgerald would still be a Pro Bowler with Jay Cutler throwing him the ball. Ask Brandon Marshall.

Well above average is pretty good, btw. Take average. Then go above that. Then go well above that. That = good.

Fitz is still one of the top 5-6 WR in the game.

Its not even worth getting into. Yall should know that by now. Its evident to anybody with vision and a brain...but its just not getting into.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Its not even worth getting into. Yall should know that by now. Its evident to anybody with vision and a brain...but its just not getting into.

I like to let him humour me when im bored.

 

[FedEx227]

Couldn't you do the reverse for Warner and say he's always been surrounded by pretty decent talent?

He's had Faulk, Holt, Bruce, Fitzgerald, Boldin among others.

I still think he's good but I hate the "he makes him better" crap.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Couldn't you do the reverse for Warner and say he's always been surrounded by pretty decent talent?

He's had Faulk, Holt, Bruce, Fitzgerald, Boldin among others.

I still think he's good but I hate the "he makes him better" crap.

Lol.. of course you could. Sane people understand that.

Warner was bordering poopoo in NYG where he didnt have too much to work with.. thats the only time we've seen him with sub-par talent around him to get a judge on how he would fair.

 

[Nukleopatra]

Couldn't you do the reverse for Warner and say he's always been surrounded by pretty decent talent?

He's had Faulk, Holt, Bruce, Fitzgerald, Boldin among others.

I still think he's good but I hate the "he makes him better" crap.

Yeah. I don't know how the Rams won that superbowl without Marshall's 17 yards rushing.

Oh wait, yes I do, Kurt Warner.

Don't bring up Marshall Faulk as an example, when he's already said numerous times on NFL Network, that Kurt Warner was the main reason they got to those superbowls. The only people who kiss Warner's ass more than I do, is Brenda and Marshall Faulk. Faulk was a great player, but he didn't win shit until Martz/Warner came into the picture. Holt benefited from a Mike Martz offensisve scheme ran by a future hall of fame QB, the same way Fitz/Boldin/Breaston do. Issac Bruce, like Faulk was successful production wise without Kurt Warner, but again, what did they win? Nothing.

Kurt Warner was sub-par in NY for two reasons.. He wasn't healthy, and he was not allowed to run the offense he was used to running. That system was perfect for Eli Manning, and it was a one year thing to begin with, so I really don't see why we're even bringing that up. As you can tell, now that he's healthy again, he's back to being one of the best.

He's back to doing what he does best - carrying a below average football team/players, to success they won't ever see again, once he's gone. Be happy for them. Kurt is.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

LMAO.. Torry Holt's best season was under Marc Bulger.. infact, he had several amazing seasons with Marc Bulger at QB. Is he a HOF QB too? Isaac Bruce's best season? Under CHRIS MILLER and MARK RYPIEN (who I like, because hes Canadian).. definitely HOF worthy QBs. Surely both of these guys needed Kurt Warner to succeed..

Anquan Boldin's rookie season, which was is damn near close to his best year under Warner, was with JEFF BLAKE and JOSH MCCOWN @ QB. Larry Fitzgerald only got one year without Warner, his rookie season, but his raw talent is undeniable, and hes definitely also benefited from having Warner, as Warner has from him.

Kurt Warner has always had the luxury of having great players around him.. he himself, is a great player. You, would like to make love to him. Instead, he makes love to his boy hair-cut having wife while thinking about being blessed by the god that he loves with the likes of Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, Anquan Boldin, and Larry Fitzgerald to throw to throughout his career.