Buy or sell: Percy Harvin

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Yeah, that's my point. If you are a tweener type player like Harvin or Hester Chicago doesn't exactly have the coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball to really groom you one way or another.

Maybe having a real QB now will help but I'm still not sold the Bears have the coaches needed to teach techniques etc to Hester or a guy like Harvin. Which is why I hope the Bears don't draft him.

Same reason I say no to him on the Jags.

I just want the Jags to go with very safe picks. They've missed often with these high risk-reward players. Stick to the basics of drafting. Sound, fundamental players, safe players. Doesn't matter the position, he doesn't need to be a Pro Bowler right away, just a sound, fundamental pick. Guys that won't bust...or at least have less chance to do so then others. Those types.

For once, I'd like to see a contributing first round pick...truly.

 

[FirstTimer]

Same reason I say no to him on the Jags.

I just want the Jags to go with very safe picks. They've missed often with these high risk-reward players. Stick to the basics of drafting. Sound, fundamental players, safe players. Doesn't matter the position, he doesn't need to be a Pro Bowler right away, just a sound, fundamental pick. Guys that won't bust...or at least have less chance to do so then others. Those types.

For once, I'd like to see a contributing first round pick...truly.

I'm glad we got Cutler this year

It will be interesting to see who the Bears go with in the 2nd round. I've been a big backer of Ramses Barden WR Cal-Poly because we need a big red zone target and a guy who can be a physical WR and help out the QB. Not sure who else is projected in the 2nd Rd territory that fits that mold.

 

[Tailback U]

LOL at 'not similar physically'.

LOL at you looking at their height and weight and then saying they are physically the same type of football player.

Hines Ward is a possession WR. He runs excellent routes, knows where to find the zones in defenses, has excellent hands and is one of the best blocking WR's in the NFL.

Percy Harvin is an explosive gamebreaker. He doesn't run excellent routes. He doesn't have excellent hands. He is not known for his blocking nor his on-field (or off the field) intelligence.

The two are not similar in any way, shape, or form. Other than their height and weight. But I could list about 100 other WRs in the league with the same height/weight as Hines and Percy and say "they are physically the same!" if you really want me to. They are polar opposites.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Well, more and more I thought about it I realized that he isn't they type of guy I'd really like Indianapolis to grab.

Now if Polian decided to draft him, I wouldn't feel bad, because I trust our GM and if our GM feels that he can be formed into a good wide receiver, then it is completely possible, Polian's track record is near PERFECT with first round picks while he has been in Indianapolis.

But, look at Harvin and you got a great player who isn't great at any specific thing, in the NFL he wont succeed at runningback, it will take a while for him to shape into a good receiver, and will never be a true #1, and even though people think he will be a good special teams player, they forget the fact that he NEVER returned a punt or a kick in his college career.

Great player, but I don't think I'd want him on my team unless I feel he can be coached correctly.

 

[Sportsbuck]

LOL at you looking at their height and weight and then saying they are physically the same type of football player.

Hines Ward is a possession WR. He runs excellent routes, knows where to find the zones in defenses, has excellent hands and is one of the best blocking WR's in the NFL.

Percy Harvin is an explosive gamebreaker. He doesn't run excellent routes. He doesn't have excellent hands. He is not known for his blocking nor his on-field (or off the field) intelligence.

The two are not similar in any way, shape, or form. Other than their height and weight. But I could list about 100 other WRs in the league with the same height/weight as Hines and Percy and say "they are physically the same!" if you really want me to. They are polar opposites.

Since when have intelligence, running good routes, and finding holes in defense been physical traits?

 

[Tailback U]

Since when have intelligence, running good routes, and finding holes in defense been physical traits?

Are you arguing just to argue? Do you want to argue what counts as a physical trait and what counts as a mental trait? The point is that they are completely different from each other - mentally and physically. They are not similar WR's at all.

 

[Sportsbuck]

Are you arguing just to argue? Do you want to argue what counts as a physical trait and what counts as a mental trait? The point is that they are completely different from each other - mentally and physically. They are not similar WR's at all.

Obviously they are different players, but Senser was laughing about them not being similar physically and you went into the more mental side of things.

 

[Tailback U]

Obviously they are different players, but Senser was laughing about them not being similar physically and you went into the more mental side of things.

I talked about their physical and mental differences. Harvin is more explosive, faster, quicker, and more agile. Ward is slower, a better route runner, and can read defenses better. Ward is also stronger, tougher, and a better blocker. Again, they are physically and mentally completely different.

 

[Senser81]

I talked about their physical and mental differences. Harvin is more explosive, faster, quicker, and more agile. Ward is slower, a better route runner, and can read defenses better. Ward is also stronger, tougher, and a better blocker. Again, they are physically and mentally completely different.

You are 'mentally different', too.

 

[Obst]

LOL at you looking at their height and weight and then saying they are physically the same type of football player.

Hines Ward is a possession WR. He runs excellent routes, knows where to find the zones in defenses, has excellent hands and is one of the best blocking WR's in the NFL.

Percy Harvin is an explosive gamebreaker. He doesn't run excellent routes. He doesn't have excellent hands. He is not known for his blocking nor his on-field (or off the field) intelligence.

The two are not similar in any way, shape, or form. Other than their height and weight. But I could list about 100 other WRs in the league with the same height/weight as Hines and Percy and say "they are physically the same!" if you really want me to. They are polar opposites.

Did you even watch Florida this year?

 

[Tailback U]

Did you even watch Florida this year?

Who didn't watch Florida this year.

 

[Rayman]

Luckily, this is something I don't have to worry about.

Dallas has already removed Harvin from their draft board completely.

 

[Tailback U]

Luckily, this is something I don't have to worry about.

Dallas has already removed Harvin from their draft board completely.

That is a smart move because Patrick Crayton has proved to be absolutely amazing.

 

[Rayman]

That is a smart move because Patrick Crayton has proved to be absolutely amazing.

Miles Austin.

Seriously, Stephen Jones has told his old man that he's had enough of the dickheads. Coaching staff backed him up on it.

None of them want any part of Percy Harvin.

 

[Tailback U]

Miles Austin.

Seriously, Stephen Jones has told his old man that he's had enough of the dickheads. Coaching staff backed him up on it.

None of them want any part of Percy Harvin.

This is funny coming from you. A guy who has yet to play an NFL game is already a dickhead but a guy who has literally been booted from 3 teams and has stirred up controversy everywhere he has gone is not.

Whatever you say man.

 

[Senser81]

This is funny coming from you. A guy who has yet to play an NFL game is already a dickhead but a guy who has literally been booted from 3 teams and has stirred up controversy everywhere he has gone is not.

Whatever you say man.

You gotta admit it was a funny "Do Not Want" picture, though.

 

[Rayman]

This is funny coming from you. A guy who has yet to play an NFL game is already a dickhead but a guy who has literally been booted from 3 teams and has stirred up controversy everywhere he has gone is not.

Whatever you say man.

Never ever said TO wasn't a narcissistic motherfucker.

Harvin has accomplished much less and his ego is very much on par. No thanks.

Not to mention I can't help but think of David Boston every time I look at the guy.

Like I said, he's one of only 3 players completely taken off the Cowboys' draft board. Speaks volumes.

 

[FirstTimer]

Never ever said TO wasn't a narcissistic motherfucker.

Harvin has accomplished much less and his ego is very much on par. No thanks.

Fred Mitchell 2.0?

 

[Tailback U]

You gotta admit it was a funny "Do Not Want" picture, though.

I have pics disabled otherwise I definitely would have.

Everyone keeps talking about big of an ego Harvin has and how he is a dickhead but the fact of the matter is that the guy has not even played a single down in the NFL.

I'm not going to buy into all these, "My cousin's friend went to HS with Harvin and he said he has the biggest ego ever" bullshit. I'll wait till the guy is actually on a team and actually acts like a dickhead before I label him one.

And David Boston was 6'2" 250. Harvin is 5'11" 193. Why are you comparing the two again?

 

[kbpsu]

Fred Mitchell 2.0?

FREDEX! ....the next jerry rice :stupid: