Cam Newton

[dave]

Canadians generally do.

Carlton off the Fresh Prince has nothing on me.

 

[DoubleDeuce]

Carlton off the Fresh Prince has nothing on me.

Let's see you top this imp:

 

[dave]

Let's see you top this imp:

OK, it's true, he's better.

 

[Fox1994]

Carlton off the Fresh Prince has nothing on me.

:joker:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxdauqh3epw"]Carlton - The Last Dance - YouTube[/ame]

I expect a video response by this time tomorrow. Of you dancing the Carlton better than Carlton. With Cam Newton.

EDIT:

Let's see you top this imp:

I see now that DD beat me to it. And now I feel like a biter... I still want a damned video response.

 

[dave]

:joker:

Carlton - The Last Dance - YouTube

I expect a video response by this time tomorrow. Of you dancing the Carlton better than Carlton. With Cam Newton.

You can do better than that.

 

[Deviant]

This concept in general makes me LOL, but I don't think I've heard it applied directly to Newton. I think most people knew from his time at Auburn that he's very media savvy. I think he comes across as overly rehearsed and disingenuous myself, the smug shit that he is.

Bingo.

Right on the money. Anytime I hear Cam Newton, I don't hear someone genuine or who fully believes what he says. I hear someone who sounds like he's been told what to say and has to say "the right thing".

I always go back to his Heisman speech and I compare it to Ingram's speech. Ingram is well spoken as well, but he sounds absolutely genuine. Granted, Ingram was also overwhelmed by emotion.

Still, if I remember correctly, he first said what an honor it was to be a part of the fraternity and to bring Alabama their first Heisman winner. He then needed a moment. Afterwards, he quickly thanked God, thanked his family, specifically his father, who he said "he loved to death" and then proceed to thank his team, Coach Saban, and even started pointing out specific people in the audience. Sure, at points he sounds like he was rambling off people so that he didn't forget anyone (I think he thanked his teachers and everyone in the audience started laughing), but his words didn't sound rehearsed; they sounded sincere.

Newton's speech was purely rehearsed. He went to his notecards so fast and I couldn't fully believe anything he said. I think he looked straight down at his cards when he said he loved his father. He even thanked our soldiers, which isn't a bad gesture, but just came the fuck out of nowhere. It's like someone whispered to him to say that. The big one for me was when he said something along the lines of "who woulda' thought a kid from (wherever he's from) would have ever won an award of such prestige". I don't know. Who would have thought some kid from Hackensack, NJ or Freemont, OH or a kid born in the Phillipines would ever win the award? He sounds like a fifth-grader who just heard a grown-up make a speech and he wants to try to sound just as articulate as he is.

 

[Fox1994]

You can do better than that.

Idunno. The final Carlton was a pretty epic moment. Then again, none of this has anything to do with Cam Newton. So, I'll ask:

Dave, do you think Jimmy Clausen will develop at all as a backup to Newton? Perhaps become a starter in his own right later on down the road?

 

[dave]

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Dave, do you think Jimmy Clausen will develop at all as a backup to Newton? Perhaps become a starter in his own right later on down the road?

I think Clausen is fucked because of first impressions and poor coaching. It's kinda sad, because he might actually be a real QB worth a decent draft pick in return.

 

[Trmszczykowski]

Bingo.

He sounds like a fifth-grader who just heard a grown-up make a speech and he wants to try to sound just as articulate as he is.

That's my quarterback.

 

 

[NAHSTE]

Bingo.

Right on the money. Anytime I hear Cam Newton, I don't hear someone genuine or who fully believes what he says. I hear someone who sounds like he's been told what to say and has to say "the right thing".

I always go back to his Heisman speech and I compare it to Ingram's speech. Ingram is well spoken as well, but he sounds absolutely genuine. Granted, Ingram was also overwhelmed by emotion.

Still, if I remember correctly, he first said what an honor it was to be a part of the fraternity and to bring Alabama their first Heisman winner. He then needed a moment. Afterwards, he quickly thanked God, thanked his family, specifically his father, who he said "he loved to death" and then proceed to thank his team, Coach Saban, and even started pointing out specific people in the audience. Sure, at points he sounds like he was rambling off people so that he didn't forget anyone (I think he thanked his teachers and everyone in the audience started laughing), but his words didn't sound rehearsed; they sounded sincere.

Newton's speech was purely rehearsed. He went to his notecards so fast and I couldn't fully believe anything he said. I think he looked straight down at his cards when he said he loved his father. He even thanked our soldiers, which isn't a bad gesture, but just came the fuck out of nowhere. It's like someone whispered to him to say that. The big one for me was when he said something along the lines of "who woulda' thought a kid from (wherever he's from) would have ever won an award of such prestige". I don't know. Who would have thought some kid from Hackensack, NJ or Freemont, OH or a kid born in the Phillipines would ever win the award? He sounds like a fifth-grader who just heard a grown-up make a speech and he wants to try to sound just as articulate as he is.

College Park, GA. Same hometown as a half dozen NFL players and five minutes from Atlanta, so yeah when he said that I thought that it made no sense. He made it seem like he was from Alaska or some shit, rather than the 4th or 5th biggest football hotbed in the country.

 

[ram29jackson]

Bingo.

Right on the money. Anytime I hear Cam Newton, I don't hear someone genuine or who fully believes what he says. I hear someone who sounds like he's been told what to say and has to say "the right thing".

I always go back to his Heisman speech and I compare it to Ingram's speech. Ingram is well spoken as well, but he sounds absolutely genuine. Granted, Ingram was also overwhelmed by emotion.

Still, if I remember correctly, he first said what an honor it was to be a part of the fraternity and to bring Alabama their first Heisman winner. He then needed a moment. Afterwards, he quickly thanked God, thanked his family, specifically his father, who he said "he loved to death" and then proceed to thank his team, Coach Saban, and even started pointing out specific people in the audience. Sure, at points he sounds like he was rambling off people so that he didn't forget anyone (I think he thanked his teachers and everyone in the audience started laughing), but his words didn't sound rehearsed; they sounded sincere.

Newton's speech was purely rehearsed. He went to his notecards so fast and I couldn't fully believe anything he said. I think he looked straight down at his cards when he said he loved his father. He even thanked our soldiers, which isn't a bad gesture, but just came the fuck out of nowhere. It's like someone whispered to him to say that. The big one for me was when he said something along the lines of "who woulda' thought a kid from (wherever he's from) would have ever won an award of such prestige". I don't know. Who would have thought some kid from Hackensack, NJ or Freemont, OH or a kid born in the Phillipines would ever win the award? He sounds like a fifth-grader who just heard a grown-up make a speech and he wants to try to sound just as articulate as he is.

some people 'get it" early on in life and some people dont.

he's still a kid ( a very young man ) and in sports its seen year after year. He may grow up and understand things sooner than Vick and others did..or like T Owens he will seem like he's never been aware of his surroundings and self image for 10 years or more.

 

[NAHSTE]

some people 'get it" early on in life and some people dont.

he's still a kid ( a very young man ) and in sports its seen year after year. He may grow up and understand things sooner than Vick and others did..or like T Owens he will seem like he's never been aware of his surroundings and self image for 10 years or more.

But even with that, TO reached the peak of his position and came within 14 points of winning a championship. I'm pretty sure most players would take TO's career. I can't see how you can say his attitude was a detriment to his teammates or coaches either, because more often than not he was putting da team on his back doe.

Unless ... you think it was Donovan who got them to the Super Bowl that year?

:yao:

 

[DoubleDeuce]

Unless ... you think it was Donovan who got them to the Super Bowl that year?

I was under the impression that Brian Dawkins, Lito Sheppard, and one of the best defenses in the league got them to the Super Bowl.

 

[NAHSTE]

I was under the impression that Brian Dawkins, Lito Sheppard, and one of the best defenses in the league got them to the Super Bowl.

The same guys who didn't get there before?

:yao:

 

[ram29jackson]

But even with that, TO reached the peak of his position and came within 14 points of winning a championship. I'm pretty sure most players would take TO's career. I can't see how you can say his attitude was a detriment to his teammates or coaches either, because more often than not he was putting da team on his back doe.

Unless ... you think it was Donovan who got them to the Super Bowl that year?

:yao:

Who you become as a man is more important than any fame or success you attain. Thats wonderful if he becomes a great jock to watch play, but if he is still a pinhead, it means very little.

...and if Donovan doesnt get the ball to T.O., T.O. cant help the team, so, yes DM is just as responsible for getting them there.

 

[Juggernaut]

That's fine, but I feel for those that lost there laptops. I don't feel for the guy that stole them. And I fucking laugh at MORALITY POLICE. Really? Stealing lapatops as an adult and that says nothing about his moral character? Sorry, am I suppose to like him and give him a break just because he's black? See, I think he would need to earn respect and not just have it handed to me. Has absofuckinglutely nothing to do with MORALITY POLICE.


Second chance, sure. But I think they need to earn peoples respect back after doing what he did. I feel for the victims.

"I feel for the victims" LOL. "Victims". Stop feeling anything. This is fucking football, this isn't a popularity contest. You're probably one of the people who hate Mike Vick for his dog fighting shit. Personally, I don't give a fuck! Same shit here. I'm sure the "victims" don't even give a fuck anymore, they've gotten their shit back.

And why does he have to earn your respect? LOL. Let alone how would he?

 

[DoubleDeuce]

"I feel for the victims" LOL. "Victims". Stop feeling anything. This is fucking football, this isn't a popularity contest. You're probably one of the people who hate Mike Vick for his dog fighting shit. Personally, I don't give a fuck! Same shit here. I'm sure the "victims" don't even give a fuck anymore, they've gotten their shit back.

And why does he have to earn your respect? LOL. Let alone how would he?

You don't give a shit about off the field troubles?

If a player you liked was convicted for murdering an innocent, you would still root for that player?

Would your argument be that you're sure the "victims" don't give a fuck because they're dead so the crime doesn't matter?

 

[Houston]

If a player you liked was convicted for murdering an innocent, you would still root for that player?

You tell me....when you watch The Longest Yard, do you root for the inmates or the guards?

 

[DoubleDeuce]

You tell me, when you watch The Longest Yard, do you root for the inmates or the guards?

Lol @ bringing a fictional movie into this.

And for the record, I don't "root" for anyone when watching the original (when watching the remake I root for the credits to arrive early) because I already know the outcome.

 

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

Lol @ bringing a fictional movie into this.

And for the record, I don't "root" for anyone when watching the original (when watching the remake I root for the credits to arrive early) because I already know the outcome.

I think this is the best point you've made in your entire life. srs.