Cam Newton

[bucky]

Cam, in a long line of athletes, is just a young, simple minded country boy

Ah, a young Bret Favre then?

 

[bucky]

If my laptop was stolen by Cam Newton, I'd be the first one telling people my laptop was stolen by Cam Newton.

As a freshman in college, before the fame, and you as a starving student that has NO MONEY, working your own way through school, relying on the Laptop you saved for a couple of years to get, I think you'd feel a little different about it.

Now, you'd end up famous, and Cam would end up suspended or out of the league.

 

[Woy]

Cam > your QB

...

 

[Anthony]

That would depend. Where did Hitler played college ball?

Yeshiva University.

 

[ram29jackson]

Ah, a young Bret Favre then?

as pass happy as the league is, I will gamble on saying he will never sniff Favres pass marks no matter how long he is in the league and he wont make it to the playoffs as many times either.

 

[ram29jackson]

Yeshiva University.

he wore a yamstika on his head...sorry, couldnt pass that one up

 

[Houston]

Think about the victims!

The people getting groaned by DoubleDuece?

 

[Fox1994]

as pass happy as the league is, I will gamble on saying he will never sniff Favres pass marks no matter how long he is in the league and he wont make it to the playoffs as many times either.

He was talking about your comment that he was just a simple country boy.

 

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

Got me another 33 fantasy points today. 374 passing yards, 1 td, 1 int, 35 rushing yards (409 total yards) and 2 rushing TDs.

I know he lost today, but his fantasy value is great!

I'm still on the Cam Newton bandwagon because he won me another game this fantasy weekend. I don't care how many games the Panthers lose, if he's dropping 30+ fantasy points per game I'm going to stick up for the guy.

 

[Blade]

That team can't stop the run like WHOA......little more talent on D and they will be good for seasons to come.

 

[Trmszczykowski]

That team can't stop the run like WHOA......little more talent on D and they will be good for seasons to come.

If we can stay healthy I think we are. Concerned about Thomas Davis ever playing again, but he was playing pretty good against Arizona and Greenbay. Beason gone hurts us a lot, he was our sideline to sideline backer. Dan Connor does not fit that role. James Anderson has been relatively quiet.(As if nonPanthers fans know who he is.) Defensive Tackle still an issue.

 

[Saluki]

Got to see this kid in action for the 1st time yesterday. Impressed. This kid makes better decisions with the football than alot of veterans in this lg, and as well as he runs he has pretty good pocket presence, only running or moving around when he needed to. His biggest problem that i saw was leaving the ball too high on some throws, but i don't see why he can't fix that.

I don't know why people are talking about all time passing records and crazy shit like that after a rookies 1st 4 games, but he's gunna be an elite player in this lg, hopefully for a long time if he doesn't get hurt.

 

[Blade]

Got to see this kid in action for the 1st time yesterday. Impressed. This kid makes better decisions with the football than alot of veterans in this lg, and as well as he runs he has pretty good pocket presence, only running or moving around when he needed to. His biggest problem that i saw was leaving the ball too high on some throws, but i don't see why he can't fix that.

I don't know why people are talking about all time passing records and crazy shit like that after a rookies 1st 4 games, but he's gunna be an elite player in this lg, hopefully for a long time if he doesn't get hurt.

I have been saying since last year....the guy was bred, born and taught to play football period. College years were a waste of time for this kid....he's got the most God given talent and football IQ in a rookie QB that we have seen in a long time.

 

[Fox1994]

I have been saying since last year....the guy was bred, born and taught to play football period. College years were a waste of time for this kid....he's got the most God given talent and football IQ in a rookie QB that we have seen in a long time.

I think that a lot of that was developed in college. Not the talent, maybe, but the skills. The football IQ and the instincts were learned. The muscle had to be built, sculpted even...

 

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

Got to see this kid in action for the 1st time yesterday. Impressed. This kid makes better decisions with the football than alot of veterans in this lg, and as well as he runs he has pretty good pocket presence, only running or moving around when he needed to. His biggest problem that i saw was leaving the ball too high on some throws, but i don't see why he can't fix that.

I don't know why people are talking about all time passing records and crazy shit like that after a rookies 1st 4 games, but he's gunna be an elite player in this lg, hopefully for a long time if he doesn't get hurt.

From what I've seen, and so far I've watched every one of his games and watched him closely, he's got some pocket awareness problems to work on. It doesn't look natural for him. Yeah, he stands in there tall and delivers the ball in the face of pressure, but I've also noticed plenty of times that he gets happy feet back there. I'm not sure if he doesn't trust his o-line, or if he gets scared of the pass rush, or if his inner clock is working too fast and feels like he needs to get out of there, but I've noticed he's been startled in the pocket when he had great protection.

Check out the play at 1:00 on the video below, one of his interceptions. He wasn't pressured, but he got startled, took his eyes off the coverage and started looking for running lanes and ended up throwing a bad pass for the INT.

Another INT at 1:35, when the pocket was collapsing quickly Cam stepped up but overthrew his target because I think he felt rushed, at least he looked rushed (I don't mean pass rushed, I think he was trying to get the ball out too quickly and should have taken a half a second work the pocket and deliver the ball more accurately, if not make a better read.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5pddS8HCOU"]Cam Newton Game 2 of NFL 2011-2012 (He Did It Again) - YouTube[/ame]



Additionally I don't think he has been stepping up into the pocket well enough. He drops back and instead of stepping up he stands vertical. I think he should be more fluid in his drop step and when he steps into the pcoket. Maybe he doesn't step into the pocket well enough because he's afraid to get bottled up in case he needs to run. He just doesn't look as fluid in his drop step, as I would expect one with so much athleticism to be.

 

[NAHSTE]

I have been saying since last year....the guy was bred, born and taught to play football period. College years were a waste of time for this kid....he's got the most God given talent and football IQ in a rookie QB that we have seen in a long time.

 

[Saluki]

From what I've seen, and so far I've watched every one of his games and watched him closely, he's got some pocket awareness problems to work on. It doesn't look natural for him. Yeah, he stands in there tall and delivers the ball in the face of pressure, but I've also noticed plenty of times that he gets happy feet back there. I'm not sure if he doesn't trust his o-line, or if he gets scared of the pass rush, or if his inner clock is working too fast and feels like he needs to get out of there, but I've noticed he's been startled in the pocket when he had great protection.

Check out the play at 1:00 on the video below, one of his interceptions. He wasn't pressured, but he got startled, took his eyes off the coverage and started looking for running lanes and ended up throwing a bad pass for the INT.

Another INT at 1:35, when the pocket was collapsing quickly Cam stepped up but overthrew his target because I think he felt rushed, at least he looked rushed (I don't mean pass rushed, I think he was trying to get the ball out too quickly and should have taken a half a second work the pocket and deliver the ball more accurately, if not make a better read.

Cam Newton Game 2 of NFL 2011-2012 (He Did It Again) - YouTube



Additionally I don't think he has been stepping up into the pocket well enough. He drops back and instead of stepping up he stands vertical. I think he should be more fluid in his drop step and when he steps into the pcoket. Maybe he doesn't step into the pocket well enough because he's afraid to get bottled up in case he needs to run. He just doesn't look as fluid in his drop step, as I would expect one with so much athleticism to be.

Eh he's a rookie, im not saying he's got Brady like pocket presence, but most of the time he's pretty good about it. All the rest of that stuff will likely come. He doesn't have any issues that i've seen that can't be fixed by either experience or a good coach.

 

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

That's true Saluki. But you'll have to admit some QB's are better than others, and for some QB's it never happens (getting comfortable in the pocket). But it's just not something I'd list as one of his strengths. In fact I'd list pocket presence as an area he needs to greatly improve on if he wants to avoid turnovers, and unnecessarily hurried passes.

Besides that of course he's got to keep learning, keep plugging away. He'll develop. And I think he could be elite someday soon. I'm going to say it now, years from now I think he'll be argued as a top 2-3 QB in this league. Book it, write it down, I said it. The dude has legit tools.

 

[Saluki]

Also im just going off of his game vs the bears, I've only seen highlights from his other 3 games.


It's also helped him that Steve Smith remembered that he'e and elite WR

 

[BigBucs]

For Newton, losing is the only thing that doesn't come easy

By: Jeff Darlington | NFL.com
Published: October 6, 2011 at 3:54 PM

CHARLOTTE -- His intentions meant as nothing more than caring, Panthers tight end Greg Olsen approached his rookie quarterback, Cam Newton, with a few words of support in the wake of Sunday's 34-29 loss to the Bears .

Newton, in front of his locker, wanted none of it. He batted away Olsen's hand from his shoulder and muttered a few choice words that made it clear moral victories mean nothing. This wasn't a cliché during a news conference. It was hard evidence.

Carolina's quarterback has proven capable of improving in many areas, but there's one lesson he has so far been unwilling to learn: how to lose.

"Losing is hard for some people to accept," Panthers coach Ron Rivera said Wednesday about Newton's reaction to Olsen. "With Cam, it sits in his craw. At some point, he'll learn: It's a loss. You learn from it and move on."

But will he learn? Should he even try? On Wednesday, I asked Newton if anyone has given him good advice about how to deal with his emotions in the wake of a loss.

"I don't think anyone can give you good advice on that," Newton said. "Unless it's coming from a world-class loser."

In just that one sentence, Newton's words matched his actions Sunday with Olsen. His refusal to accept anything but winning is sincere -- something worth embracing even if it comes with a tone of adolescence.

Consider his past two years. Newton didn't lose last year at Auburn on his way to a national championship. He only lost once in 2009 as quarterback for Blinn, a junior college that also won its version of the national title.

People question many things about Newton, but nobody questions whether he's a winner. And in a locker room full of Carolina players who suffered through last season's 2-14 record, it's already proving to be an infectious attitude.

"He makes his point clear that he's here to win football games," backup quarterback Derek Anderson said. "He's not here to just be a guy. He wants to win, and it shows by the way he takes losses. They're tough on him.

"He's never lost games. It's not something he's used to doing. I think guys see that, and it's changing the overall morale of what we're trying to do in this locker room."

Maybe Newton should close his ears for this next sentence: Despite a 1-3 record, the Panthers do seem to be making strides in the wake of last year's misery. All three losses have been by a touchdown or less.

In the process, Newton threw for 1,000 yards faster than any rookie in NFL history. His decision-making skills have undeniably exceeded expectations. His grasp of the offense, just the same. Just as impressive so far? His place in the locker room.

"Here's the thing about Cam that you come to learn early on: He's somebody who is out to win -- he's not somebody who's out to prove people wrong," center Ryan Kalil said. "I don't know if that makes sense, but he cares only about what his teammates think and about winning. I think that's something guys admire about him.

"It's inspiring, and it carries over to the rest of the offense."

In a sports world where little is more annoying than a player who'd rather score a touchdown to disprove the "haters" than to please the fans, Kalil's sentiment shouldn't be taken lightly. It goes against everything most expect from Newton.

Many times, players show their true colors in the wake of losses. But we'll see what type of NFL leader Newton will be when the Panthers start winning. This is no longer college football, where he has to worry about making the next step. He's on the biggest stage, where elite talent at the most important position in football will always make him a commodity. At the pinnacle of success, will he turn into a player focused on becoming an icon? Will he embrace his teammates as much as he embraces his brand?

If these questions seem unfair, they are nothing more than proof of Newton's polarizing effect. And to this brief point of his NFL career, he hasn't just answered every wonder with appropriate responses. He has delivered them with shocking results.

Did you really think he'd become the first quarterback to throw for 400 yards in back-to-back games two games into his career?

Didn't think so.

"To be perfectly frank about it, I think he's exceeded everyone's expectations," said Rivera.

It is a surprise to many, yes. But not Newton. That's because, as far as he's concerned, he isn't exceeding anything if he isn't winning. It's a fascinating story to consider that Newton's biggest shortcoming to this point has been his inability to handle a loss without overwhelming emotion.

"The thing that hurts even more is that we're extremely close," Newton said. "Some teams know how to win. We need to get that mentality -- that we're not going to lose anymore."

Over the last year, Newton has been questioned about everything from the sincerity of his smile to the integrity of his family. Maybe the questions are fair; maybe not. But as the wonders about Newton continue to roll forward regardless of his responses, there's one question that he's managed to answer without needing to say a word: Newton is a terrible loser. And he doesn't plan to change.

"I've been trying to get better as far as not letting it weigh on my emotions that much," Newton said. "But I'll never feel complacent about a loss."

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