Cutler keeping OC's out of Chicago?

[FedEx227]

No, I really don't have a strong opinion either way.

I like the idea of Martz because I love the results he gets out of teams. The only thing I'm worried about is that his style will be limited by our roster. Of course it's worth getting him, he's better than whatever clown college guy they have coming in next.

 

[Nukleopatra]

Detroit had a severly limited roster, too, but his offense helped them to 7 wins. I'm not saying 7 wins is all that impressive, but they sure haven't seen that since. They went 0-16 after the brilliant idea to fire the guy. If they promoted Martz to HC, the way they should have, Detroit doesn't touch that 0-16 record, in my opinion.

Mike Martz has been known to make the best out of bad situations - He was partly responsible for helping a grocery store clerk, become one of the best stories in recent memory... pretty damn good football player, too.

Does Chicago need to fill a few more spots, even with Martz? Of course.

You guys had the 17th ranked passing offense in the NFL, you can bet money you move into the top 10, easily, if Martz comes to town, even with a limited roster.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

No, I really don't have a strong opinion either way.

I like the idea of Martz because I love the results he gets out of teams. The only thing I'm worried about is that his style will be limited by our roster. Of course it's worth getting him, he's better than whatever clown college guy they have coming in next.

He inherited a much worse roster in SF, which if you recall had one of the worst offenses in modern NFL history in 2007.

He's drastically improved every offense he's touched, immediately.

If they make the hire, by week 4 the entire fan base will be split -- those who love him, and those who despise him. Despite producing more yards and more points, there are fans (and Tom Jackson) who get fixated on every turnover and the flawed idea of playcalling balance. Those same fans (and Tom Jackson) wont say a word about the 45/19 pass/run ratio when the Bears win 31-13, but its the first thing they'll bring up when they lose. He throws the ball alot, goes for the throat on every drive, and trades turnovers for points.

 

[Saluki]

Martz couldnt be any worse a playcaller than turner was, i mean at this point what do we have to lose?

 

[USCChifan]

If Martz is hired, say goodbye to Greg Olsen and Matt Forte. Martz hates to run the ball and w/ Lovie as a run-first HC...

Plus he never uses TEs, just look at Vernon Davis w/o him.

 

[Saluki]

If Martz is hired, say goodbye to Greg Olsen and Matt Forte. Martz hates to run the ball and w/ Lovie as a run-first HC...

Plus he never uses TEs, just look at Vernon Davis w/o him.

Why would Martz drop forte? He's a RB that can catch well out of the backfield, exactly what Martz likes

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

If Martz is hired, say goodbye to Greg Olsen and Matt Forte. Martz hates to run the ball and w/ Lovie as a run-first HC...

Plus he never uses TEs, just look at Vernon Davis w/o him.

I guess you didn't read the whole thread.

 

[FirstTimer]

Ron Turner has sucked for years. He didn't just start to suck because Cutler was his QB.

The Bears have sucked for years. They didn't just start to suck because Cutler became the QB.

If anything, the only reason anyone would want the Bears OC job at this point would be because the Bears have Cutler. Do you think if the Bears still had Kyle Orton instead of Cutler, then people would be knocking down the door to become the next Bears OC?

I think this is the main reason why.

LOL no. Ron Turner was run out of town because he fucking blows. The whole NFL knows that.

These...

If thats true, then why haven't they found a defensive coordinator yet, either?

I didn't even know they were looking for one.. I thought Lovie was taking control of the D in his last ditch effort to save his job.

No. Lovie had control of the defense last year. They kept him on this year, and have taken away his DC duties. Lovie Smith was technically demoted from DC to Head Coach.

WTF.........

Plus, as I said at the end of the year (against firing Ron Turner) because you're going to be a lame duck OC. You get your year, Lovie gets fired, new guy comes in and brings in his own OC. The job sucks.

I hated Turner and didn't think he deserved to stay, but I argued there was no reason to get rid of him because nobody is going to want a 1-year lame duck job. There's absolutely ZERO job security in the Bears OC or DC jobs.

Agreed.

The Lions hardly had the most dominant pass blocking O-line when Martz was there and Kitna still managed to pass for 4,000 yards. And isin't a successful team/offense more important than wasting a tight end? Maybe I have this whole GM theory all wrong

Maybe the development of a TE is more important than actually winning games

The thing is though the Bears WR's kinda....well...suck.

On a slightly related note

I loled when I heard Cutler is involved in the interviewing process for a new O/C . For any people who live in the area or support the Bears ... is this true? And if so what exactly is the point in letting your QB who has been noted for slacking and ignoring coaches help decide the new O/C? I can't see good things coming from that

He's not "interviewing" the guys. The Bears bring him in to talk with some of the candidates to meet them etc. I guess he's part of the process but honestly with as little as the Bears have to build on and the strained relationship Cutler had with Turner and Pep Hamilton last year I think Lovie and JA know that getting a guy who can mesh well with Cutler is important. Their jobs depend on it.

 

[MRN]

If Martz is hired, say goodbye to Greg Olsen and Matt Forte. Martz hates to run the ball and w/ Lovie as a run-first HC...

Plus he never uses TEs, just look at Vernon Davis w/o him.

This post is full of fail.

Greg Olsen splits out just as much as he lines up at TE.

Forte is definitely as much as a receiver as he is a running back.

You call yourself a Bears fan?

 

[Nukleopatra]

Seems like Martz is the favorite, so far. At this point, I'd be a bit shocked, if Martz wasn't the OC come kickoff. I actually think this was the plan all along, to be honest... We'll see.

I can't say I'm pleased, because Jay Cutler isn't one of my favorite people - but my man crush for Martz goes way beyond my hatred for Cutler, so if it becomes official, I'm on board.

I would comment on the whole Forte thing, but a couple people already took care of that.

 

[FirstTimer]

Seems like Martz is the favorite, so far. At this point, I'd be a bit shocked, if Martz wasn't the OC come kickoff. I actually think this was the plan all along, to be honest... We'll see.

I can't say I'm pleased, because Jay Cutler isn't one of my favorite people - but my man crush for Martz goes way beyond my hatred for Cutler, so if it becomes official, I'm on board.

I would comment on the whole Forte thing, but a couple people already took care of that.

The thing that would keep Martz out of Chicago is Jerry Angelo.

I'm still waiting on the Mike Tice to OC job and Rod Marinelli to DC job press conference.

 

[Realist]

Whats with Coaches on the hot seat hiring Martz? Nolan, Smith. didnt the lions coach(dont remember his name) do that too?

 

[USCChifan]

Vikings QB Coach Kevin Rogers is still in the hunt for the Bears OC job. Hopefully he gets it over Martz.

 

[Nukleopatra]

lol @ Rogers getting credit for Brett Favres season.

I wouldn't put it passed the Bears to make a completely fucking retarded move like choosing a guy like that over Martz, but unfortunately, Martz has moved into the #1 spot, already.

Rogers has done a great job with T-Jack, though... and Sage Rosenfels.

 

[1ke]

Why was this dumbass thread even taken seriously?

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Mike Martz will turn Jay Cutler into Nuk's new Kurt Warner... im sure of it.

 

[FedEx227]

Why was this dumbass thread even taken seriously?

Because Cutler kicks babies and pushes old women.

 

[Nukleopatra]

Mike Martz will turn Jay Cutler into Nuk's new Kurt Warner... im sure of it.

I'm not too concerned with Martz improving Cutler's on the field performance - It's his on and off the field attitude, that I don't like. Part of me wants Martz to get the job, and part of me hopes that Chicago pulls another typical Chicago move, and goes with the ''other guy,'' so I can laugh.

 

[FedEx227]

At this point it's really even too late to do that. Really nothing they can do outside of hiring Martz will save face. They look like complete buffoons.

 

[FirstTimer]

The thing that would keep Martz out of Chicago is Jerry Angelo.

I'm still waiting on the Mike Tice to OC job and Rod Marinelli to DC job press conference.

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