Donte Stallworth only gets 30 days in jail

[Prodigal Son]

Didn't they prove that the guy was jaywalking?

Didn't know jaywalking justified murder.

 

[Esjay]

the ignorance is running wild in this thread. Its sad that people just speak on a subject with no factual information at all.

there are other factors that play a role here
1st and foremost is that stallworth has been extremely cooperative during the entire process, he has also reached out to the family and made peace with them (as best as he could)
2nd, the family also wanted to put this behind them. Yes a settlement was reached, but they still wanted to get this whole thing over with. And that is huge in a case like this.
3rd, The prosecutions case was less then perfect.



Not true at all. He was not in the crosswalk and jumped right out in front of stallworths car. Drunk or not, if someone jumps out in front of a car doing 50 mph, you are gonna hit them. And the speed limit was 40, stallworth was going 50.....most people drive 5-10 mph over the speed limit

4th. Stallworth is not some d-bag fuck up. He is a young guy who made a horrible mistake. Has no criminal record and was not trying to get away with anything here. He knows he fucked up and will have to live with that for the rest of his life.

Prison isnt always the best way to achieve justice. He has 30 days, 2 years house arrest, 8 years probation, 1000 hrs community service, he can never drive again (he can apply for work privileged in 5 years), paying a what im sure is a huge settlement to the family....the guilt of killing a man, his career is screwed in the immediate future.....not to mention, he is a christian so he still has god to deal with.

Are you honestly trying to justify this? LMAO @ Stallworth has been extremely cooperative. At least he isn't the biggest fucking douche bag who's ever walked the earth, that's something! He was behind the wheel drunk and killed an innocent man. He deserves far more than 30 days.

"2nd, the family also wanted to put this behind them. Yes a settlement was reached, but they still wanted to get this whole thing over with. And that is huge in a case like this. "

What the fuck does that have to do with anything? 1, like Panda said, they should be ashamed of themselves. 2, Stallworth is still an idiot and what the family wanted to do doesn't change that.

Wow. I certainly hope I'm never walking around where you live.

 

[Realist]

Im sorry, what was this thread about again??:iwould:

 

[bucky]

Are you honestly trying to justify this?

No one is trying to justify drinking and driving. We are just saying that there was no intent on his part to harm somebody. It was negligent, irresponsible, and an accident. It wasn't intentional. I don't know Stallworth. He might be a big jag. But this incident doesn't make him a bad person. It makes him someone that did a very irresponsible thing that ended up with a tragic ending.

like Panda said, they should be ashamed of themselves.

They are the ones that are grieving. Who the hell are you to say what they should and shouldn't do. It's completely up to them. If it is ever your wife or child, then it will be up to you how you deal with it.

Stallworth is still an idiot and what the family wanted to do doesn't change that.

He is an idiot that made a HUGE mistake. This doesn't make him a horrible person.

Wow. I certainly hope I'm never walking around where you live.

Here is a tip for ya. Don't run out in front of moving vehicles. It makes it a lot safer when walking (in anyone's neighborhood).

 

[Esjay]

I don't really give a shit if it was intentional or not. I highly doubt any of the other drunk drivers who took someones life meant to do it. Doesn't mean they shouldn't sit in jail for as long as any other killer. 30 days is a fucking joke.

They're grieving and they accept a money settlement and let this dude off with 24 days? Fuck that. If someone in my family was killed this way and anyone even considered taking money and letting this douche bag walk freely I'd never talk to them again.

 

[citizenerased]

So will he miss any actual gametime? I thought 2 years house arrest would've meant he wouldn't be able to leave the house unless it was to do something like attend his mothers funeral or something. But listening to Around the Horn and PTI, it sound's like he is still going to be able to play right away this season as long as Goddell doesn't step in and hand out an NFL Suspension.

 

[bucky]

I don't really give a shit if it was intentional or not. I highly doubt any of the other drunk drivers who took someones life meant to do it. Doesn't mean they shouldn't sit in jail for as long as any other killer.

OK....So your high off your ass drinking and smokin. Your buddy hands you a gun. You don't really want it, but he puts it in your hands. Your so f'n stoned that you don't know what your doing and you shoot your buddy. Are you more of a douche than the serial rapist? The serial rapist never killed anybody, he just brutally raped a couple dozen women. You actually killed somebody.

So your a murderer, who is worse you or the serial rapist?

Intent really does mean something. I can forgive someone that had no intentions of doing any harm. I have a hard time forgiving those that are intentional cruel (like the serial rapist).

I would actually forgive you for being a dumbass and holding a gun when you stoned.

You may deserve some kind of punishment, but I could forgive that. Not so much the serial rapist.

I would think that intent would also be an indicator of whether that person is rehabilitation and would learn from what happened. I don't put as much stock in rehabbing the serial rapist.

 

[FlawLeSs]

Didn't know jaywalking justified murder.

so ur putting him in the same category as a murderer?

 

[Esjay]

OK....So your high off your ass drinking and smokin. Your buddy hands you a gun. You don't really want it, but he puts it in your hands. Your so f'n stoned that you don't know what your doing and you shoot your buddy. Are you more of a douche than the serial rapist? The serial rapist never killed anybody, he just brutally raped a couple dozen women. You actually killed somebody.

So your a murderer, who is worse you or the serial rapist?

Intent really does mean something. I can forgive someone that had no intentions of doing any harm. I have a hard time forgiving those that are intentional cruel (like the serial rapist).

I would actually forgive you for being a dumbass and holding a gun when you stoned.

You may deserve some kind of punishment, but I could forgive that. Not so much the serial rapist.

I would think that intent would also be an indicator of whether that person is rehabilitation and would learn from what happened. I don't put as much stock in rehabbing the serial rapist.

Obviously the rapist .. the only problem with your argument here is that Stallworth knew what he was doing. He may not have planned to kill somebody, but HE is the one who decided to drive drunk. Nobody handed him the car keys and he accidentally got in and killed a dude. I'm assuming he's intelligent enough to understand drunk drivers are dangerous and he decided to do it anyway. This wasn't an accident between two friends as you described.

 

[Prodigal Son]

so ur putting him in the same category as a murderer?

Yes.

He drove a vehicle drunk. It ended with someone dead. His actions directly led to someone dying.

 

[bucky]

The only problem with your argument here is that Stallworth knew what he was doing. He may not have planned to kill somebody, but HE is the one who decided to drive drunk.

No one is saying that he didn't know what he was doing. He did decide to drink and drive.

Nobody handed him the car keys and he accidentally got in and killed a dude. I'm assuming he's intelligent enough to understand drunk drivers are dangerous and he decided to do it anyway.

No one forced him to drive, but he did accidentally kill someone. There was no intent to kill. It was an accident perpetuated by irresponsible and negligent behavior. But it was still an accident.

This wasn't an accident between two friends as you described.

But it was still an accident. This doesn't make the guy a homicidal, coldblooded, murderer like some are making him out to be.

He was a dumbass that did a dumbass (illegal) thing that had dire consequences

I'm not going to comment on whether 30 days, two years house, etc is enough or not. That's really up to the family that's grieving from the loss and the judicial system. If the family has that kind of compassion, then I say god bless them.

You can go ahead and hang the guy for multiple life sentences when it's your wife, kid, brother, sister, etc and I won't criticize you. Hell, you would be the one that was grieving and have the right to try and get the longest sentence.

 

[1ke]

Quesion...
If Dante flashed his lights and saw him, should he have not avoided the man. To me, if you see someone and have enough time to flash your lights at them, shouldn't you already be on the brakes getting ready to avoid the person.

 

[Bear Pand]

OK....So your high off your ass drinking and smokin. Your buddy hands you a gun. You don't really want it, but he puts it in your hands. Your so f'n stoned that you don't know what your doing and you shoot your buddy. Are you more of a douche than the serial rapist? The serial rapist never killed anybody, he just brutally raped a couple dozen women. You actually killed somebody.

Why are you writing scripts for anti drug commercials? This isn't even a realistic scenario how is he supposed to respond to it? Say "kids this is why you shouldn't do drugs?"

And all this situation proves is "Cash Rules Everything Around Me" you shouldn't be able to buy your way out of punishment.

 

[1ke]

Even a sober person doesn't always react the way we would like to react, especially at what like 2 in the morning or whenever this happened. It's just like a deer in headlights, you don't always know which way to swerve or what way they are going to go.

I can understand that. I mean it def didnt help that he was drunk. All I was tryin to say, is that people keep blamin that old man for not jumping out of the way, I was attempting to make the point that Dante could have maybe done more....

 

[MRN]

Didn't know jaywalking justified murder.

Where did I say that jaywalking justified murder?

I simply asked if they proved it or not.

Jaywalking doesn't justify murder, but what Stallworth did isn't murder.

BTW, Stallworth is not completely at fault. Most of the blame should fall on him, he was drunk, and drove a car, that is wrong, but you can't forget that he flashed his lights, and the man hit was also doing something illegal, both sides hold at least some of the blame IMO.

 

[bucky]

Why are you writing scripts for anti drug commercials?

I'm not. I'm making a distinction between intentional vs. accidental. Thought it was obvious. Do you really need this to be any clearer? Should I go back and highlight where I've been talking about intent? I thought you were a Purdue college student? You graduate? With that Marketing Degree?

 

[1ke]

Some can argue that him stepping into that car drunk is intent.

 

[Bear Pand]

I'm not. I'm making a distinction between intentional vs. accidental. Thought it was obvious. Do you really need this to be any clearer? Should I go back and highlight where I've been talking about intent? I thought you were a Purdue college student? You graduate? With that Marketing Degree?

I'm saying your analogy sucks and sounds like an anti-drug commercial. You don't need a college degree to figure that out. Make a better one don't get mad at me.

 

[dave]

There is no justification for 30 days in jail in this particular case.
The only reason the family agreed to it was money.
No ordinary Joe would ever have gotten off this lightly - and nor should they.

 

[MVP1991]

Some can argue that him stepping into that car drunk is intent.

lol