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Dynamite!! 2010 ~The Power Of Courage~ (12/31 on HDNet)
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Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
No man, Duffee isn't a "bum", I'm just doing my anti Overated gimmick, but Duffee is also not the kind of win that will make me say "Wow, I was wrong, this guy IS the best heavy in the world".
I keep hearing he's the best, I just want to see him beat (or even face) the best.
Maybe because Overeem just fought in the biggest kickboxing tournament in the world 2 weeks ago and Fedor fought 69 seconds for the entire year
Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
During that period, Fedor faced a murderer's row compared to the parade of bums Overeem has beaten.
They both beat Rogers, but Arlovski & Sylvia are a million times better than anyone else Overeem beat, unless you wanna argue Buentello. Even an undersized Lindland or a Mark Coleman bring more to the table than the no names Overeem faces.
Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
C'mon rob, he hasn't faced anyone in YEARS. He has a parade of bums sandwiched between two fringe top 10 guys (Buentello in 07, Rogers this year).
And we are talking about the period when Fedor was considered #1 compared to Overeem now.
Are we going to kill overeem for this fight after fighting and winning the k1 2 weeks ago?
he signed to fight, dream needs to find him a fight
Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
I'm not even accusing him of ducking. That's not the the point. But the fact is, he fights no one.
The Reem's last 2 years of fighting
MMA:
Todd Duffee at Dynamite!!
Win 33-11 (1) Brett Rogers TKO (punches) Strikeforce: Heavy Artillery 02010-05-15 May 15, 2010 1 3:40 St. Louis, United States Defended Strikeforce heavyweight championship.
Win 32-11 (1) Kazuyuki Fujita KO (knee) Dynamite!! 2009 02009-12-31 December 31, 2009 1 1:15 Saitama, Japan
Win 31-11 (1) James Thompson Submission (guillotine choke) Dream 12 02009-10-25 October 25, 2009 1 0:33 Osaka, Japan
Win 30-11 (1) Tony Sylvester Submission (guillotine choke) Ultimate Glory 11: A Decade of Fights 02009-10-17 October 17, 2009
K-1:
Win 10-4 Peter Aerts KO (punches) K-1 World Grand Prix 2010 Final 02010-12-11 December 11, 2010 1 1:07 Tokyo, Japan K-1 World Grand Prix 2010 final. Wins K-1 World Grand Prix 2010.
Win 9-4 Gokhan Saki TKO (injury) K-1 World Grand Prix 2010 Final 02010-12-11 December 11, 2010 1 2:20 Tokyo, Japan K-1 World Grand Prix 2010 semi-final.
Win 8-4 Tyrone Spong Decision (unanimous) K-1 World Grand Prix 2010 Final 02010-12-11 December 11, 2010 3 3:00 Tokyo, Japan K-1 World Grand Prix 2010 quarterfinal.
Win 7-4 Ben Edwards TKO (referee stoppage/3 knockdowns) K-1 World Grand Prix 2010 in Seoul Final 16 02010-10-02 October 2, 2010 1 2:08 Seoul, South Korea Qualifies for K-1 Grand Prix 2010 Final.
Win 6-4 Dzevad Poturak KO (right knee) K-1 World Grand Prix 2010 in Yokohama 02010-04-03 April 3, 2010 1 2:40 Yokohama, Japan
Loss 5-4 Badr Hari TKO (referee stoppage) K-1 World Grand Prix 2009 Final 02009-12-05 December 5, 2009 1 2:14 Yokohama, Japan K-1 World Grand Prix 2009 semi-final.
Win 5-3 Ewerton Teixeira KO (left knee) K-1 World Grand Prix 2009 Final 02009-12-05 December 5, 2009 1 1:06 Yokohama, Japan K-1 World Grand Prix 2009 quarterfinal.
Win 4-3 Peter Aerts Decision (unanimous) K-1 World Grand Prix 2009 Final 16 02009-09-26 September 26, 2009 3 3:00 Seoul, South Korea Qualifies for K-1 Grand Prix 2009 Final.
Loss 3-3 Remy Bonjasky Decision (unanimous) K-1 World GP 2009 in Yokohama 02009-03-28 March 28, 2009
Fedor's last 2 years
Loss 32–2 (1) Fabricio Werdum Submission (Triangle/Armbar) Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Werdum 02010-06-26 June 26, 2010 1 1:09 San Jose, California
Win 32–1 (1) RogersBrett Rogers TKO (Punches) Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers 02009-11-07 November 7, 2009 2 1:48 Hoffman Estates, Illinois Defended WAMMA World Heavyweight Championship
Win 31–1 (1) ArlovskiAndrei Arlovski KO (Punch) Affliction: Day of Reckoning 02009-01-24 January 24, 2009 1 3:14 Anaheim, California Defended WAMMA World Heavyweight Championship
Yeah, Overeem fights no one
MMA:
Todd Duffee at Dynamite!!
Win 33-11 (1) Brett Rogers TKO (punches) Strikeforce: Heavy Artillery 02010-05-15 May 15, 2010 1 3:40 St. Louis, United States Defended Strikeforce heavyweight championship.
Win 32-11 (1) Kazuyuki Fujita KO (knee) Dynamite!! 2009 02009-12-31 December 31, 2009 1 1:15 Saitama, Japan
Win 31-11 (1) James Thompson Submission (guillotine choke) Dream 12 02009-10-25 October 25, 2009 1 0:33 Osaka, Japan
Win 30-11 (1) Tony Sylvester Submission (guillotine choke) Ultimate Glory 11: A Decade of Fights 02009-10-17 October 17, 2009
K-1:
Win 10-4 Peter Aerts KO (punches) K-1 World Grand Prix 2010 Final 02010-12-11 December 11, 2010 1 1:07 Tokyo, Japan K-1 World Grand Prix 2010 final. Wins K-1 World Grand Prix 2010.
Win 9-4 Gokhan Saki TKO (injury) K-1 World Grand Prix 2010 Final 02010-12-11 December 11, 2010 1 2:20 Tokyo, Japan K-1 World Grand Prix 2010 semi-final.
Win 8-4 Tyrone Spong Decision (unanimous) K-1 World Grand Prix 2010 Final 02010-12-11 December 11, 2010 3 3:00 Tokyo, Japan K-1 World Grand Prix 2010 quarterfinal.
Win 7-4 Ben Edwards TKO (referee stoppage/3 knockdowns) K-1 World Grand Prix 2010 in Seoul Final 16 02010-10-02 October 2, 2010 1 2:08 Seoul, South Korea Qualifies for K-1 Grand Prix 2010 Final.
Win 6-4 Dzevad Poturak KO (right knee) K-1 World Grand Prix 2010 in Yokohama 02010-04-03 April 3, 2010 1 2:40 Yokohama, Japan
Loss 5-4 Badr Hari TKO (referee stoppage) K-1 World Grand Prix 2009 Final 02009-12-05 December 5, 2009 1 2:14 Yokohama, Japan K-1 World Grand Prix 2009 semi-final.
Win 5-3 Ewerton Teixeira KO (left knee) K-1 World Grand Prix 2009 Final 02009-12-05 December 5, 2009 1 1:06 Yokohama, Japan K-1 World Grand Prix 2009 quarterfinal.
Win 4-3 Peter Aerts Decision (unanimous) K-1 World Grand Prix 2009 Final 16 02009-09-26 September 26, 2009 3 3:00 Seoul, South Korea Qualifies for K-1 Grand Prix 2009 Final.
Loss 3-3 Remy Bonjasky Decision (unanimous) K-1 World GP 2009 in Yokohama 02009-03-28 March 28, 2009
Fedor's last 2 years
Loss 32–2 (1) Fabricio Werdum Submission (Triangle/Armbar) Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Werdum 02010-06-26 June 26, 2010 1 1:09 San Jose, California
Win 32–1 (1) RogersBrett Rogers TKO (Punches) Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers 02009-11-07 November 7, 2009 2 1:48 Hoffman Estates, Illinois Defended WAMMA World Heavyweight Championship
Win 31–1 (1) ArlovskiAndrei Arlovski KO (Punch) Affliction: Day of Reckoning 02009-01-24 January 24, 2009 1 3:14 Anaheim, California Defended WAMMA World Heavyweight Championship
Yeah, Overeem fights no one
Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
K1 doesn't count, its a different sport, so those fights are completely irrelevent to the discussion. Overeem beat Buentello in 2007, then fought nothing but cans until Rogers. It doesn't matter who's fault it is, facts are facts, and he fights bums.
Rob, you are a fraud. If Overeem was a UFC fighter you would be killing him. You picked apart Couture, Herring, Mir, and Carwin when trashing Lesnar, when that list of fighters blows away what Overeem has done. Your credibility is going down the toilet, and its a shame.
Rob, you are a fraud. If Overeem was a UFC fighter you would be killing him. You picked apart Couture, Herring, Mir, and Carwin when trashing Lesnar, when that list of fighters blows away what Overeem has done. Your credibility is going down the toilet, and its a shame.
I talk fighting, Overeem has proved he will fight anyone they can put in front of him. The problem is no one in MMA wants to fight the guy, Fedor has declined twice now, Werdum doesnt want any, I'm sure others have been offered to fight The Reem in Japan and havent taken it
Rogers was the only one to step up, but he knew he fucked up as soon as the cage door closed
K-1 fighters have much more heart and rarely duck, they fight, to say Overeem 'fights no one' is taking a shot at Overeem but it is misleading
Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
Again, doesn't matter why. Never said he ducks. But the fact remains, he fights no one. I don't care about other sports. We are talking about MMA.
Rob, no one is claiming that Overeem is ducking competition. That is entirely not the point that's being made here. It is simply that Overeem has no beaten anyone of real substance in an MMA fight in a long time. I love watching the guy and its awesome that he just won K1. But if I felt Fedor deserved some degree of criticism for the level of competition he faced over a period of time, I would feel like a huge hypocrite for not applying the same rule to Overeem. The reasons don't even come into it.
W2B is right - you murder other fighters for facing easy fights, whether its by choice or not.
W2B is right - you murder other fighters for facing easy fights, whether its by choice or not.
Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
Hornbuckle & Bluberry Muffin, can't wait.
EmpireWF
Giants in the Super Bowl
And how is Overeem deserving of a top 5 MMA ranking?
Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
you could even argue that his K1 commitments are part of the cause that he virtually never fights for Strikeforce. Actually, that's a fact. But I won't even take it there.
Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
Top 5? Supposedly, he's the #1 heavyweight in the world.