Eli Manning...

[FirstTimer]

Larry has me rolling...

"fruit pop" never gets old

Thats fine also, he is saying he thinks Eli will get in the HOF, even after the first one,

It's retarded.

 

[Houston]

This thread has turned into pure lols.

opcorn:

 

[Liquidrob]

for the record, Larry stole 'fruit ___' from me

proceed

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

So is the argument WILL he be in the Hall of Fame, or SHOULD he be in the Hall of Fame? Because those are pretty different (and my impression is that W2B is arguing the latter).

I am arguing the latter.

Of course he's going to get in, he won two SB's and there is value without context in that when it comes to the voting.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I never said "on the money".

I took issue with it being a "poor throw" and/or people saying it was the wrong read. Neither of which are correct.

You are getting caught up the word "poor"...it wasn't a good throw, it wasn't an accurate throw...whatever you want to call it, it wasn't a throw he should have thrown to that player on that drive. It was simply innaccurate and was off the mark. Yes, Welker should have caught it...he has his hands on the football and that is rule #1...if you touch it, you should catch it...but that doesn't give Brady a pass for a throw that was clearly off the mark.

 

[Len B]

Last I checked when wide receivers had both hands on the ball with excess room to reach, it's a catch able ball and is considered a drop. I forgot that every single throw in the NFL has to hit WR's in the chest. Perfect throw? No. Catch able? Yes.

Tom Brady played great, whether any haters like to admit it or not. If Welker makes this one catch that he can easily make, coming back to Warner's point, Brady is GOAT!!! 4 rings!! and puts up 300 yards and 2 touchdowns (possibly 3 depending on that drive).

Half of you make no fucking sense. Eli's offense only put up 22 points against a MUCH worse defense (and one of those TD's was given to the Giants on purpose) and suddenly he's goat, while Tom Brady without his top target, while setting a Superbowl record for completions in a row that leads to 14 points, and playing a better defense gets 17 and it's a bad game and not getting it done. Both QB's played great games, and you have to look at the context not the final score to see that. The game final should have been 18-17 Giants, but that one extra point makes Eli unstoppable, apparently?

Godgers offense last year only put up 24 points, the year before Brees' unstoppable offense only put up 24 points, and the year before that Roethlisberger's offense only put up 20 points.

If you're thinking defenses in the Superbowl are going to bend over and give up 30+ points a game then have fun wishing for that when your team is in the Superbowl.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I am arguing the latter.

Of course he's going to get in, he won two SB's and there is value without context in that when it comes to the voting.

So why in the fuck are you arguing for 5 pages, faggot?

That was the entire purpose of the damn thread.

Time wasting nigga.

:webgem:

 

[jms493]

I also love that this epic thread is titled 'Eli Manning'

Tony Homo can put up awesome numbers every year but choke away every season. We Giant fans will take our mediocre Simms and Manning. Super Bowl MVPS>>>>HOF

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

for the record, Larry stole 'fruit ___' from me

proceed

That would be false.

I stole fruit pop, but it wasn't from you, nor anyone else on this forum.

 

[ralaw]

"ELIte”

Please stop its annoying, and cheesy. Eli is good though…will be a HOFer when he retires, but not right now.


“Brady throw to Welker”
The Brady throw could have been better thrown, but this is football and Welker has made that type of catch his entire Patriots career.

 

[Liquidrob]

That picture doesnt take into account Welker had to turn around and go up for it, come on Len, it was a bad throw

Brady did not play 'great', he played great for a quarter and a drive, thats it

 

[Liquidrob]

So why in the fuck are you arguing for 5 pages, faggot?

That was the entire purpose of the damn thread.

Time wasting nigga.

:webgem:

agreed, Warner went full nerd in this thread

 

[Primetime]

Brady played a better game than Eli. When it comes down to it, if Welker makes that catch and/or Manningham doesn't make his incredible grab, this thread doesn't exist.

 

[FirstTimer]

It was simply innaccurate and was off the mark.

Wrong.

Welker didn't merely "touch the ball" he had both hands wrapped around the thing.

For such an inaccruate pass Welker sure seemed to have a really damn good chance at making the play.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

So why in the fuck are you arguing for 5 pages, faggot?

That was the entire purpose of the damn thread.

Time wasting nigga.

:webgem:

Based on some of your responses in the thread, i'm not shocked at all that you still don't know the answer to this.

I disagree with the mindset mindset that...eh, forget it, fuck this shit.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

"ELIte”

Please stop its annoying, and cheesy. Eli is good though…will be a HOFer when he retires, but not right now.


“Brady throw to Welker”
The Brady throw could have been better thrown, but this is football and Welker has made that type of catch his entire Patriots career.

I'm pretty certain the winning Eli-term is

"Who are you to doubt Eli Dandy?"

There was a lot of genius right there.

:verlander:

 

[shag773]

lol. My point exactly. Both players won the Superbowl last night and in 2007, and both played significant roles in their teams success.

Yet you don't even know who they are.

I know who they are. My point is nobody else does, which means their play is less scrutinized vs a QB, especially in the SB. Do you think they were under as much pressure as Manning to perform?

Enough love for the quarterback. Manning had a good game, so did most players on that team. The question shouldn't be about rings, it should be "Were you watching one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time?"

My answer as of today is no.

Luckily for Eli, there are plenty of HOFers who were never considered the GOAT at any point in their career...

 

[jms493]

There is alot of emphasis on this Welker catch and I get it but he didnt drop it in the endzone....there is no guarantee they score a TD and Eli would have gotten the ball back with some time maybe only down by 5.

 

[FirstTimer]

for the record, Larry stole 'fruit ___' from me

proceed

Larry uses it better

 

[RosettaStoned]

I wouldn't consider it a circus catch. Welker and the entire free world knows he should have had it.

Brady threw the ball to the correct spot given the coverage/situation.


There were two DB's under the play inside and outside. You don't miss that throw short. You put it high and outside away from the underneath DB's and the inside safety.

It wasn't the most accurate ball on the face of the earth but it was the right read and throw, wasn't poorly thrown and Welker had it in his hands. A poorly thrown ball there misses Welker completely. This one hit him in both hands.

If you don't have an issue with the read you can't make an issue of Welker twisting and turning..which he would have had to do regardless as a function of the read and the ball being thrown back outside.

Yes.. two db's short.. spaced apart. There was plenty of space to fit that ball that could have made it a much easier catch. It was poor placement.

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