Eli Manning...

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Warner2BruceTD and FirstTimer are the damn Mulkey Brothers of this thread.

 

[NAHSTE]

To me it seems like Eli only won because no one else really stood out from the crowd. I thought it about who else on the Giants could have won it but no one came to mind. JPP was dominant early but sort of faded, Nicks had nice numbers but didn't seem too dominant. So them giving it to Eli makes sense.

Also because the QB of the winning team has won the SB MVP 25 of 46 times. I still need to do more research to verify this theory, but I'm starting to suspect that a quarterback receiving a disproportional amount of credit for a Super Bowl win has been ingrained in our culture for a really long time. Still compiling the data though, I'll update with my findings.

 

[ralaw]

2-time (or more) Super Bowl MVPs...

Bart Starr
Terry Bradshaw
Joe Montana (3)
Tom Brady
Eli Manning

The man is in, fellas.

You forgot about Jim Plunkett....

Edit:

Oh, I see you prefaced it by saying MVP's.....poor Plunkett only had one SB MVP, but 2 SB wins. Imagine if he had two MVP's though? Would he be in...a different player?

 

[shag773]

 

[shag773]

I'll update with my findings.

Please don't....

 

[NAHSTE]

Please don't....

:brianwilson:


Sarcasm 1
shag 0

 

[FirstTimer]

Also because the QB of the winning team has won the SB MVP 25 of 46 times. I still need to do more research to verify this theory, but I'm starting to suspect that a quarterback receiving a disproportional amount of credit for a Super Bowl win has been ingrained in our culture for a really long time. Still compiling the data though, I'll update with my findings.

I don't think it's any coincidene either that Post 1978(when the NFL opened up the passing game rules) that QB's have won 20 of them. Prior to Super Bowl XIII there was a 7 year stretch where a QB didn't win it. Passing game rules open up. Boom.

Since then there hasn't been a streak longer than 3 years with no QB winning it.

 

[DJ Rhude]

I can understand the hesitation, Eli has had some really ugly years statistically when you judge them by HOF standards

I can't put him in the HOF yet, not while the book is still being written on his career

I am tickled pink that the HOF and Manning is being mentioned in the same breath and the name isn't Peyton though

Who whoulda thunk we'd see this kind of discussion about him here, even if a lot of pundits still think he's average?

 

[Len B]

To me it seems like Eli only won because no one else really stood out from the crowd. I thought it about who else on the Giants could have won it but no one came to mind. JPP was dominant early but sort of faded, Nicks had nice numbers but didn't seem too dominant. So them giving it to Eli makes sense.

Weatherford got robbed.

 

[DJ Rhude]

Weatherford was definitely money....back them up a few times

Of course Brady said fine, I'll see your directional kicks and drive anyway

That guy is a great QB, I can't stand him lol

 

[TimsGiants]

Just glad he is my quarterback. Biased or not if the game is on the line and my team needs a score to win Eli is the best in my book. Just so damn cool and confident under pressure.

 

[FirstTimer]

Just glad he is my quarterback. Biased or not if the game is on the line and my team needs a score to win Eli is the best in my book. Just so damn cool and confident under pressure.

:lol:

 

[TimsGiants]

Passing game comeback drives just this season
Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD Notes
18 2011 3 2011-09-25 30-265 NYG @ PHI W 29-16 16 23 69.6% 254 4 0 145.7 11.04 14.52 3 -3 -1.00 0 4QC / GWD
19 2011 4 2011-10-02 30-272 NYG @ ARI W 31-27 27 40 67.5% 321 2 0 108.4 8.03 9.03 3 -3 -1.00 0 4QC / GWD
20 2011 6 2011-10-16 30-286 NYG BUF W 27-24 21 32 65.6% 292 0 0 94.8 9.13 9.13 2 -1 -0.50 0 GWD
21 2011 7 2011-10-30 30-300 NYG MIA W 20-17 31 45 68.9% 349 2 0 106.6 7.76 8.64 4 -3 -0.75 0 4QC / GWD
22 2011 8 2011-11-06 30-307 NYG @ NWE W 24-20 20 39 51.3% 250 2 1 77.9 6.41 6.28 3 11 3.67 0 4QC / GWD
23 2011 13 2011-12-11 30-342 NYG @ DAL W 37-34 27 47 57.4% 400 2 1 90.7 8.51 8.40 2 -2 -1.00 0 4QC / GWD
24 2011 19 2012-01-22 31-019 NYG @ SFO W 20-17 32 58 55.2% 316 2 0 82.3 5.45 6.14 1 -2 -2.00 0 4QC / GWD
25 2011 20 2012-02-05 31-033 NYG @ NWE W 21-17 30 40 75.0% 296 1 0 103.7 7.40 7.90 1 -1 -1.00 0 4QC / GWD

 

[FirstTimer]

Please see comments about come from behind wins being overrated.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Please see comments about come from behind wins being overrated.

Being a bad ass is NEVER overrated.

:joeybats:

 

[TimsGiants]

Please see comments about come from behind wins being overrated.

 

[FirstTimer]

Eli's not even the biggest bad ass in his own family.

:motte:

 

[FirstTimer]

Wes Welker helps make my point.

:leake:

 

[DJ Rhude]

Come from behind wins and clutch go hand in hand...nothing overrated about coming through when everything's on the line

Unless Montana's great drive in the Super Bowl is considered overrated

And no, I am certainily not comparing Eli to Montana so don't even start.....talking coming from behind and winning

 

[FirstTimer]

Come from behind wins and clutch go hand in hand...nothing overrated about coming through when everything's on the line

Unless Montana's great drive in the Super Bowl is considered overrated

It can be.

:lol: at Eli being the one QB I'd want to have the ball when I'm down and needing a score. Every QB in the NFL is healthy..he's not even the guy in his own family who I want to have the ball.