Josh Freeman vs. Mark Sanchez

[Atlas]

You Freeman haters are insane... He has absolutely NO skill players on his team that rival anything the Jets have, not to mention the far superior defense that has bailed him out of games, NOT TO MENTION the fucking defensive guru fatshit genius he has for a coach... But yea, if there places were swapped, Sanchez would have taken the Bucs to the NFC CG and the Jets would have missed the playoffs... I swear to God some of you are legally retarded...

 

[Juggernaut]

At the end of the day, I'm happy Sanchize is a Jet and Freeman is a Buc. Both players are on the same tier, but I'd be more comfortable with Sanchize at the helm.

 

[Colonel Angus]

Smh at another Josh Freeman thread...

 

[Woy]

Smh at another Josh Freeman thread...

Seriously. He's not relevant for threads dedicated to him yet.

 

[BigBucs]

You Freeman haters are insane... He has absolutely NO skill players on his team that rival anything the Jets have, not to mention the far superior defense that has bailed him out of games, NOT TO MENTION the fucking defensive guru fatshit genius he has for a coach... But yea, if there places were swapped, Sanchez would have taken the Bucs to the NFC CG and the Jets would have missed the playoffs... I swear to God some of you are legally retarded...

Really. I cant believe the shit I am reading. I done with this shit. It makes 0 sense. I'm being trolled harder than anyone in the history of VSN. Its the only explanation. They cant seriously be this dense. They are finding every reason not to give Freeman credit while coming up with asinine reasons to credit Sanchez while omitting or marginalizing relevant information like supporting cast, coaching staff, veterans etc... Im mad I allowed it. It is what it is. :facepalm: WTF am I talking about? This is VSN, they are that stupid.

 

[BroncoBlue]

Shanchez is Mexican American that makes him way better!

 

[Mogriffjr]

Really. I cant believe the shit I am reading. I done with this shit. It makes 0 sense. I'm being trolled harder than anyone in the history of VSN. Its the only explanation. They cant seriously be this dense. They are finding every reason not to give Freeman credit while coming up with asinine reasons to credit Sanchez while omitting or marginalizing relevant information like supporting cast, coaching staff, veterans etc... Im mad I allowed it. It is what it is. :facepalm: WTF am I talking about? This is VSN, they are that stupid.

But when I mentioned the Jets OC being inept, you said I was making excuses right? can't have it both ways...how about ya boy being inept playing good/decent teams on the schedule? At least Sanchez wasn't a liability against the top teams in the NFL.

 

[BigBucs]

But when I mentioned the Jets OC being inept, you said I was making excuses right? can't have it both ways...how about ya boy being inept playing good/decent teams on the schedule? At least Sanchez wasn't a liability against the top teams in the NFL.

I actually compared you OC to ours. You have 0 idea what he fuck you are talking about. If anything Freeman was the only constant in those games.If you actually seen some Bucs games you would know that but I forgot your pulling up his stats makes you an expert. I got to see that bum every other week. You may have seen Freeman play twice even though I doubt that. Freeman wasnt a liability in any game this season.

 

[shag773]

I think the problem is we do not have the proper perspective. While most of us missed his masterful performances vs the Panthers, Browns, Bengals, and Arizona, we did catch his national TV games where he looked pedestrian @ home against New Orleans, Atlanta, Pitt, and the end of the Lions game.

Last time we saw Sanchez, he was leading a furious comback vs the Steelers that came up just short after coming off a great game in New England.

 

[Mogriffjr]

A

Since you want stats...

20/31, 184yds, INT- PIT (LOSS)
25/43, 219yds, TD- NOR (LOSS)
11/22, 189yds, 2TD's, 2INT's- ATL (LOSS)
17/37, 162yds, TD- BAL (LOSS)
19/38, 181yds, TD, INT- ATL (LOSS)
21/26, 255yds, 2TD's- NOR (WIN)

113/197 (57%), 1190yds, 7TD's, 4INT's

Just in case you missed how he performed against the best teams on the schedule.

Again why would I want Freeman when he can't even perform decent against the better teams in the league? I saw Sanchez and I KNOW what he's done against the better teams in the league (NE, PITT, IND)

1 good game out of 6 against the top teams, BB I can divide...that's like 1 every let's say 6, one of them shits was due (last game against the Aints).

One was AAHH (NO game part 1), the others were real wack, that's a one good game out of a 6 game average...and that's so lame.

Switch up your argument because it's garbage, cuz you can't kick knowledge.

 

[Senser81]

I done with this shit.

Thank you

 

[bucky]

At the end of the day, I'm happy Sanchize is a Jet and Freeman is a Buc. Both players are on the same tier, but I'd be more comfortable with Sanchize at the helm.

For now, until/unless Freeman can prove himself. I could easily change my mind. But for now, I would take Sanchez.

 

[bucky]

Really. I cant believe the shit I am reading. I done with this shit. It makes 0 sense. I'm being trolled harder than anyone in the history of VSN. Its the only explanation. They cant seriously be this dense. They are finding every reason not to give Freeman credit while coming up with asinine reasons to credit Sanchez while omitting or marginalizing relevant information like supporting cast, coaching staff, veterans etc... Im mad I allowed it. It is what it is. :facepalm: WTF am I talking about? This is VSN, they are that stupid.

Really? Significant playoff wins vs. no real significant wins? Playoffs or Regular Season?

Let the guy do something of significance before creating threads about him. Maybe next year.

 

[manchild24]

Was glad to see the Skins pass over on Sanchize and not move up to get him. Freeman had a 25 to 6 TD (5 TDs vs Sea) to INT ratio this year, 300 more yards about 10% higher in completion percentage

I would say Freeman has better numbers, I think Sanchez played the tougher schedule. (Green Bay, Pit, bal, Bears, NE3xs)

Freeman only had Pit and Bal which he lost both, Sanchize lost to Bal, Bears and Green Bay but beat Pit and NE 2xs

Sanchize in 2 AFC championship games already, yeah he didnt win them but he didnt lose them either.

 

[CaribbeanJoseph]

I like them both and while he has had success in the playoffs, Sanchez is more of a game manager whereas Freeman is a playmaker imo so I'd go with him.

 

[Maynard]

sanchez does nothing for me. he has the jets dee and a solid running game and gets credit for wins what really have little to do with his play.

freeman seems to have tremendous upside. And as previously mentioned by atlas, he has little skill talent around him

i think he gets hated on because of bigbucs trying to force him down everyones throats

 

[Woy]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYeNOtKtKqk&feature=related[/ame]

This was BB's reaction to the Freeman pick back in the day. Start at 1:15 and just look at the dude's face, lol.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

i think he gets hated on because of bigbucs trying to force him down everyones throats

Even that wouldnt matter if the argument wasnt so ass backwards.

It wouldnt be that difficult to say Freeman is a slightly better QB than Sanchez. You can run off a number of valid reasons why.

Somehow BB manages to fail at every attempt and only succeeds in contradicting himself.

Such a bizarre series of posts for two guys that would be rated almost identical in any potentiometer.

 

[Juggernaut]

Is Freeman better? That' debatable since they're on the same tier in my opinion. But at this point, Sanchez has 4 playoff victories, all on the road.

You don't think Sanchez knows we have a good defense and running game? He uses those to his advantage, he doesn't take many risks anymore since he knows the running game is (usually) there. He doesn't take too many risks since he knows that a slower offense is better as it gives his defense time to rest.

You can say he's relying too much on those, but he's being a game manager and using those two things as advantages. I don't think we get that with Freeman, but he fits the Bucs offense more.

 

[BigBucs]

Even that wouldnt matter if the argument wasnt so ass backwards.

It wouldnt be that difficult to say Freeman is a slightly better QB than Sanchez. You can run off a number of valid reasons why.

Somehow BB manages to fail at every attempt and only succeeds in contradicting himself.

Such a bizarre series of posts for two guys that would be rated almost identical in any potentiometer.

Not at all. If all things were equal this would be the case but since the circumstances are dramatically different, whats good for one is not good for the other.

They are not equals. Everyone is using this "Sanchez has 4 playoff wins" bullshit as if he is playing for some horrible team and is the biggest reason they are winning these games. I am being very logical vs illogical/hating posters. I mean people are really trying to marginalize Sanchez's supporting cast while overrating Freeman's just to make a ridiculous argument. Where was all of this respect for Freeman's teammates during the season?

Freeman's performance this year was far better than average yet he is getting this average tag put on him as if nearly a 5-1 TD ratio, 3500 yards and a QB rating of 96 is something the majority of QB's do every year.

If it was Stafford who performed the way Freeman did this season there would be no 4th place schedule talk or the word average being thrown around by anyone.